clutch
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Exactly my point... He was still having wet dreams of Bashar
Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation
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If Israel allies with the Druze and the Kurds, and there is a stable, democratic, pluralistic force within Syria, it can offset any tendencies of whoever sits in Damascus.An alliance that is acceptable to the Alawi would be the ideal as well.
Saifullah
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Cope.
And I’m not even from UK.
Today must be matam for you because of Assad’s fall. It’s ok. Iran is next.
clutch
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Nope. The Kurds are often killing each other. Are you Western educated?
Kurds are more United now than ever. They have a common goal in a free democratic state of Kurdistan.
who winning in the 5 way civil war, assad remnants on the coast, hts, sna (turks), israel, or the kurds. I know all my money is on israel.there’s hope for the Kurds to get their own country—and perhaps the Druze as well. Israel would gladly welcome neighbors who don’t seek its destruction. All will be under the protection of US forces.
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Syria's army says Assad's rule is over as president flees country and rebels take Damascus: Live updates
By JOE HUTCHISON FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
Published: 22:34 EST, 7 December 2024 | Updated: 00:11 EST, 8 December 2024
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Syrian rebels fighting against the government of President Bashar al-Assad have claimed Damascus as their own as they capped a stunning advance across the country.
Residents of the capital have reported sounds of gunfire and explosions in the early hours of Sunday morning local time, as the insurgents started swarming the capital.
On Saturday evening local time, opposition forces took the central city of Homs, Syria's third largest, as government forces abandoned it.
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The city stands at an important intersection between Damascus, the capital, and Syria's coastal provinces of Latakia and Tartus - the Syrian leader´s base of support and home to a Russian strategic naval base.
The rebels had already seized the cities of Aleppo and Hama, as well as large parts of the south in a lightning offensive that began on November 27.
Assad's office said earlier on Saturday that the President was staying put in the capital and continuing his duties, but the president has since fled the country to exile, ending his regime.
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Syria's army command has notified officers that al-Assad's 24-year authoritarian rule has ended.22:53
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Rebel forces have said Syria is now 'free' and that the 'tyrant' President Bashar al-Assad has fled.The HTS (Hayyet Tahrir al-Sham) said on Telegram that it was the end of a dark era and the beginning of a new one.
The rebels said that people displaced or imprisoned under the half-century reign of Assad can now come home.
HTS said it will be a 'new Syria' where 'everyone lives in peace and justice prevails'.
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Where Is Syrian President Bashar al-Assad?
President Bashar al-Assad fled the nation to an unknown destination in the early hours of Sunday morning as rebel forces swept Damascus.He had announced that he would address the nation at 8pm local time on Saturday, but never did.
His children and British-born wife fled to Russia last week, and his brothers-in-law allegedly travelled to the UAE, per Syrian security officials.
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Rebel leader bans fighters from getting close to state institutions, and from firing into the air in celebration
The leader of the largest insurgent group in Syria has prohibited his fighters from getting close to state institutions saying they will remain under the supervision of the country´s prime minister at the present time.Abu Mohammed al-Golani, leader of the jihadi Hayat Tahrir al-Sham group, or HTS, also banned his fighters from opening fire in the air in the capital Damascus.
In a statement, he said: 'Public institutions will remain under the supervision of the prime minister until they are officially handed over.'
Al-Golani's comments came as Prime Minister Mohammed Ghazi Jalali said he is extending his hand to the opposition adding that he wants to guarantee that state institutions function.
Abu Mohammed al-Golani speaks in a video statement, in this still image taken from a video released on December 8, 2024
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Images captured on the ground show Syrians rejoicing at the end of the Assad regime
Individuals can be seen throwing up the peace sign as they celebrate the end of the Assad government in the early horus of Sunday morning in Damascus.
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Damascus has fallen: Rebels declare a 'free Syria'
DAILYMAIL.COM LIVE BLOG: Follow our coverage as Syrian rebels fighting against the government of Bashar al-Assad enter Damascus and face no resistance.
Saifullah
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Ok tell me. What is worse for Syrians then being chemical bombed?
You sitting in Pakistan can say all you want what assad was for the reason. But an average Syrian living in Idlib or Aleppo doesn’t care about what you think are real world consequences. They just want to survive without being bombed to death.
People like you are just hypocrites who ignored all the oppression and genocide assad did because he’s supported by your sect. Assad was no different than israeli Zionists. If civil war ensues or even if israel invades, the sole ones responsible are assad and his supporters. He could have peacefully resigned a decade ago but choose war.
You can cry all you want about being a tool. But anything is better than being chemical bombed by Assad. Get out your bubble and understand what the Syrians have faced in the last few decades. Use your “think tank consultant” skills.
If Israel commits back Kurds fully then I don't think anyone can stop the Kurds and Israel in the middle east.
Israel and the Kurds only power in the middle east to make region stable and democratic.
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Recent developments have brought about Israeli-Kurdish rapprochement. Numerous Israeli activists and diplomats have expressed their support for the Kurdish nation.
Israel and the Kurds only power in the middle east to make region stable and democratic.
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Recent developments have brought about Israeli-Kurdish rapprochement. Numerous Israeli activists and diplomats have expressed their support for the Kurdish nation.
j_hungary
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Well, looks like this is the end.
That's because Assad lost basically all the support he had.
In 2011, it was the Iranian and the Iraqi that did the heavy lifting, the Iranian was fighting in places like Aleppo and the Russian is 100% on its Air Support. And then you have the US bombing the other side, that suppressed a lot of opposition (Which basically left FSA/Kurd and SNA (Turkish backed) in play.
This time you have 2 groups (HTS and SNA) formed an alliance and they aren't touching (largely avoiding) FSA and Kurd's territories and only focus on Assad, while Assad lost majority of Air Support from Russia (Intel suggest Russian sorties have shrink 10 fold from about 200 a day in 2011 to around 20 in 2024) while the Iranian and Hezbollah was elsewhere engaged (Israel) there are no force for Assad to call for support.
That's why the advance is unchecked
Saifullah
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I’m a bot for wanting an oppressive dictator to be brought to Justice.
Btw you’re a terrorist genocide supporter. That’s what you are. Plain and simple.
This is why we cannot “unite” with people like you. You support genocide of Sunni Muslims in Syria because your favourite Iranian regime supports Assad.
hasn2009
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Dog doesn't bite its master, they were made to kill muslims only, wonder why all of a sudden these terrorists woke up from 10 year sleep just to rescue Israel from axis of resistence?
Muji.Iqbal
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Syrian government appears to have fallen in stunning end to 50-year rule of Assad family
Syrian government appears to have fallen in stunning end to 50-year rule of Assad family
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Syrians celebrate the arrival of opposition fighters in Damascus, Syria, Sunday Dec. 8, 2024. (AP Photo/Omar Sanadiki)
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Syrians celebrate the arrival of opposition fighters in Damascus, Syria, Sunday Dec. 8, 2024. (AP Photo/Omar Sanadiki)
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An image of Syrian President Bashar Assad, riddled with bullets, is seen on the facade of the provincial government office in the aftermath of the opposition’s takeover of Hama, Syria, Friday, Dec. 6, 2024. (AP Photo/Omar Albam)
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Syrian opposition fighters ride along the streets in the aftermath of the opposition’s takeover of Hama, Syria, Friday, Dec. 6, 2024. (AP Photo/Ghaith Alsayed)
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Syrian opposition fighters remove a government Syrian flag from an official building in Salamiyah, east of Hama, Syria Syria, Saturday Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/Ghaith Alsayed)
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FILE - In this photo provided by Saudi Press Agency, SPA, Syrian President Bashar Assad listens during the Arab summit in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, May 19, 2023. (Saudi Press Agency via AP, File)
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A combo of file photos shows Syrian President Bashar Assad, left, on Aug. 19, 2009, in Tehran, Iran, and his father, former Syrian President Hafez Assad, on Dec. 1, 1972, in an unknown location. (AP Photo)
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Syrian opposition fighters drive past a burning government armored vehicle south of Hama, Syria, on Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/Ghaith Alsayed)
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A boy steps over pictures of Syrian President Bashar Assad and his late father, Hafez Assad, right, Salamiyah, east of Hama, Syria, Saturday Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/Ghaith Alsayed)
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Syrian opposition fighters drive past a damaged government vehicle south of Hama, Syria, on Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/Ghaith Alsayed)
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Decommissioned Syrian Air Force planes are seen at the Abu al-Duhur military airport, east of Idlib, following the takeover of the area by Syrian opposition fighters on Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/Omar Albam)
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A man rides his motorcycle past a burning government armoured vehicle south of Hama, Syria, Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/Ghaith Alsayed)
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A Syrian army checkpoint stands abandoned near the Abu al-Duhur military airport, east of Idlib, after Syrian opposition fighters took control of the area on Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/Omar Albam)
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FILE - In this photo provided Nov. 9, 2019, by the Syrian official news agency SANA, Syrian President Bashar Assad speaks in Damascus, Syria. (SANA via AP, File)
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A giant banner of Syrian President Bashar Assad hangs on the facade of a building, as pedestrian walk through an the empty streets of Damascus, Syria, Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/Omar Sanadiki)
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A Syrian opposition fighter reads while sitting atop a damaged government armoured vehicle near Hama, Syria, on Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024. (AP Photo/Ghaith Alsayed)
BY BASSEM MROUE AND ZEINA KARAM
Updated 11:58 PM GMT-5, December 7, 2024
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BEIRUT (AP) — The Syrian government appeared to have fallen early Sunday in a stunning end to the 50-year rule of the Assad family after a sudden rebel offensive sprinted across government-held territory and entered the capital in 10 days.
The head of a Syrian opposition war monitor said President Bashar Assad had left the country for an undisclosed location, fleeing ahead of insurgents who said they had entered Damascus following the remarkably swift advance across the country.
Syrian Prime Minister Mohammed Ghazi Jalali said the government was ready to “extend its hand” to the opposition and turn its functions over to a transitional government.
“I am in my house and I have not left, and this is because of my belonging to this country,” Jalili said in a video statement. He said he would go to his office to continue work in the morning and called on Syrian citizens not to deface public property.
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He did not address reports that Assad had left the country.Rami Abdurrahman of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights told The Associated Press that Assad took a flight Sunday from Damascus.
State television in Iran, Assad’s main backer in the years of war in Syria, reported that Assad had left the capital. It cited Qatar’s Al Jazeera news network for the information and did not elaborate.
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There was no immediate statement from the Syrian government.
Crowds of Syrians gathered to celebrate in the central squares of Damascus, chanting anti-Assad slogans and honking car horns. In some areas, celebratory gunshots rang out.
“My feelings are indescribable,” said Omar Daher, a 29-year-old lawyer. “After the fear that he (Assad) and his father made us live in for many years, and the panic and state of terror that I was living in, I can’t believe it.”
Daher said his father was killed by security forces and his brother was in detention, his fate unknown. Assad “is a criminal, a tyrant and a dog,” he said.”
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“Damn his soul and the soul of the entire Assad family,” said Ghazal al-Sharif, another reveler in central Damascus. “It is the prayer of every oppressed person and God answered it today. We thought we would never see it, but thank God, we saw it.”An Associated Press journalist in Damascus reported seeing groups of armed residents along the road in the outskirts of the capital and hearing sounds of gunshots. The city’s main police headquarters appeared to be abandoned, its door left ajar with no officers outside. Another AP journalist shot footage of an abandoned army checkpoint where uniforms were discarded on the ground under a poster of Assad’s face.
Residents of the capital reported hearing gunfire and explosions. Footage broadcast on opposition-linked media showed a tank in one of the capital’s central squares while a small group of people gathered in celebration. Calls of “God is great” rang out from mosques.
It was the first time opposition forces had reached Damascus since 2018, when Syrian troops recaptured areas on the outskirts of the capital following a yearslong siege.
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The pro-government Sham FM radio reported that the Damascus airport had been evacuated and all flights halted.The insurgents also announced they had entered the notorious Saydnaya military prison north of the capital and “liberated” their prisoners there.
The night before, opposition forces took the central city of Homs, Syria’s third largest, as government forces abandoned it. The city stands at an important intersection between Damascus, the capital, and Syria’s coastal provinces of Latakia and Tartus — the Syrian leader’s base of support and home to a Russian strategic naval base.
The rebels had already seized the cities of Aleppo and Hama, as well as large parts of the south, in a lightning offensive that began Nov. 27. Analysts said rebel control of Homs would be a game-changer.
The rebels’ moves into Damascus came after the Syrian army withdrew from much of southern part of the country, leaving more areas, including several provincial capitals, under the control of opposition fighters.
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The advances in the past week were by far the largest in recent years by opposition factions, led by a group that has its origins in al-Qaida and is considered a terrorist organization by the U.S. and the United Nations. In their push to overthrow Assad’s government, the insurgents, led by the Hayat Tahrir al-Sham group, or HTS, have met little resistance from the Syrian army.The U.N.’s special envoy for Syria, Geir Pedersen, called Saturday for urgent talks in Geneva to ensure an “orderly political transition.” Speaking to reporters at the annual Doha Forum in Qatar, he said the situation in Syria was changing by the minute. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, whose country is Assad’s chief international backer, said he feels “sorry for the Syrian people.”
In Damascus, people rushed to stock up on supplies. Thousands went to Syria’s border with Lebanon, trying to leave the country. Lebanese border officials closed the main Masnaa border crossing late Saturday, leaving many stuck waiting.
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Many shops in the capital were shuttered, a resident told The Associated Press, and those still open ran out of staples such as sugar. Some were selling items at three times the normal price.The U.N. said it was moving noncritical staff outside the country as a precaution.
Assad’s status
Syria’s state media denied social media rumors that Assad left the country, saying he was performing his duties in Damascus.He has had little, if any, help from his allies. Russia is busy with its war in Ukraine. Lebanon’s Hezbollah, which at one point sent thousands of fighters to shore up Assad’s forces, has been weakened by a yearlong conflict with Israel. Iran has seen its proxies across the region degraded by regular Israeli airstrikes.
U.S. President-elect Donald Trump on Saturday posted on social media that the United States should avoid engaging militarily in Syria. Separately, President Joe Biden’s national security adviser said the Biden administration had no intention of intervening there.
Pedersen said a date for talks in Geneva on the implementation of a U.N. resolution, adopted in 2015 and calling for a Syrian-led political process, would be announced later. The resolution calls for the establishment of a transitional governing body, followed by the drafting of a new constitution and ending with U.N.-supervised elections.
Later Saturday, foreign ministers and senior diplomats from eight key countries, including Saudi Arabia, Russia, Egypt, Turkey and Iran, along with Pederson, gathered on the sidelines of the Doha Summit to discuss the situation in Syria.
In a statement, the participants affirmed their support for a political solution to the Syrian crisis “that would lead to the end of military activity and protect civilians.”
The insurgents’ march
A commander with the insurgents, Hassan Abdul-Ghani, posted on the Telegram messaging app that opposition forces had begun the “final stage” of their offensive by encircling Damascus.HTS controls much of northwest Syria and in 2017 set up a “salvation government” to run day-to-day affairs in the region. In recent years, HTS leader Abu Mohammed al-Golani has sought to remake the group’s image, cutting ties with al-Qaida, ditching hard-line officials and vowing to embrace pluralism and religious tolerance.
The shock offensive began Nov. 27, during which gunmen captured the northern city of Aleppo, Syria’s largest, and the central city of Hama, the country’s fourth-largest city.
The Syrian government has referred to opposition gunmen as terrorists since conflict broke out in March 2011.
Qatar’s top diplomat, Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, criticized Assad for failing to take advantage of the lull in fighting in recent years to address the country’s underlying problems. “Assad didn’t seize this opportunity to start engaging and restoring his relationship with his people,” he said.
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Karam reported from London. Associated Press writers Abdulrahman Shaheen and Albert Aji in Damascus, Syria; Abby Sewell in Beirut; Qassim Abdul-Zahra in Baghdad; Josef Federman and Victoria Eastwood in Doha, Qatar; and Ellen Knickmeyer in Washington contributed to this report.
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Saifullah
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All those weapons Assad regime had, why didn’t he attack israel?
Assad choose a war with his own people over israel.
The ones responsible for this are Assad and his supporters.
For someone living in Idlib or Aleppo Assad is no different than israel. What difference does it make if just the flag on the bombs is different?
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