Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation
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ghazi52
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From CNN's Nechirvan Mando and Lauren Kent
Iran will respect Syria’s “unity, national sovereignty, and territorial integrity,” the Iranian foreign ministry said in a statement on Sunday.
“Determining Syria’s fate and deciding its future is solely the responsibility of its people, free from destructive interference or external imposition,” the ministry said.
“Achieving this goal requires the swift cessation of military conflicts, prevention of terrorist activities, and the initiation of national dialogues with the participation of all segments of Syrian society. These steps aim to establish an inclusive government that represents all the people of Syria,” the statement said.
“The Islamic Republic of Iran, emphasizing Syria’s status as an important and influential country in the West Asia region, will spare no effort to help establish security and stability in Syria,” it continued. “To this end, Iran will continue its consultations with all influential parties, particularly within the region.”
The foreign ministry added that it expects “friendly” relations to continue with Syria, despite the fall of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime. Iran and its proxy Hezbollah were key backers of Assad.
A US official told CNN earlier that events in Syria mark the collapse of “Iran’s artifice” across the Middle East.
Iran will respect Syria's "sovereignty and territorial integrity," foreign ministry says
From CNN's Nechirvan Mando and Lauren Kent
Iran will respect Syria’s “unity, national sovereignty, and territorial integrity,” the Iranian foreign ministry said in a statement on Sunday.
“Determining Syria’s fate and deciding its future is solely the responsibility of its people, free from destructive interference or external imposition,” the ministry said.
“Achieving this goal requires the swift cessation of military conflicts, prevention of terrorist activities, and the initiation of national dialogues with the participation of all segments of Syrian society. These steps aim to establish an inclusive government that represents all the people of Syria,” the statement said.
“The Islamic Republic of Iran, emphasizing Syria’s status as an important and influential country in the West Asia region, will spare no effort to help establish security and stability in Syria,” it continued. “To this end, Iran will continue its consultations with all influential parties, particularly within the region.”
The foreign ministry added that it expects “friendly” relations to continue with Syria, despite the fall of President Bashar al-Assad’s regime. Iran and its proxy Hezbollah were key backers of Assad.
A US official told CNN earlier that events in Syria mark the collapse of “Iran’s artifice” across the Middle East.
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Bilal
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Who let it stay annexed for decades. Selective amnesia.lol
assad did 40 years nothing...
BHAN85
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I can understand that.
But pro-democracy and political arguments are childishs, nonsenses.
Nobody give a sht about that. It's USA made propaganda, with each time less little effect.
UKBengali
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Whose talking about fighting now or even in the months to come?
The whole of the Golan Heights has now been lost and the Zionists can place artillery on the east face of Mount Hermon and shell Damascus from there.
ghazi52
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31 min ago
From CNN's Catherine Nicholls
This aerial photo shows people gathering around Umayyad Square in Damascus, Syria, on December 8.
Omar Haj Kadour/AFP/Getty Images
The international community must rally behind the Syrian people following the toppling of President Bashar al-Assad, Turkey’s foreign minister said on Sunday.
“Today, there is hope,” Hakan Fidan said at a news conference in Doha, Qatar. “The Syrian people cannot achieve this alone. The international community must support the Syrian people.”
Fidan said that Turkey calls on “all actors in and outside the region to act with prudence and calm and to refrain from steps that could further destabilize the region,” adding that it will be watchful of groups like ISIS and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) who could take advantage of the instability in Syria.
“With this understanding, we will continue to support a force to establish stability and security in Syria,” he said.
Fidan said that Turkey appreciated the “constructive approaches of Russia and Iran,” who he said came together on Saturday to discuss the situation with Turkey and the United Nations’ Special Envoy for Syria. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iraq, Egypt and Jordan also contributed to discussions, he said.
Turkey calls on international community to support the Syrian people
From CNN's Catherine Nicholls
This aerial photo shows people gathering around Umayyad Square in Damascus, Syria, on December 8.
Omar Haj Kadour/AFP/Getty Images
The international community must rally behind the Syrian people following the toppling of President Bashar al-Assad, Turkey’s foreign minister said on Sunday.
“Today, there is hope,” Hakan Fidan said at a news conference in Doha, Qatar. “The Syrian people cannot achieve this alone. The international community must support the Syrian people.”
Fidan said that Turkey calls on “all actors in and outside the region to act with prudence and calm and to refrain from steps that could further destabilize the region,” adding that it will be watchful of groups like ISIS and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) who could take advantage of the instability in Syria.
“With this understanding, we will continue to support a force to establish stability and security in Syria,” he said.
Fidan said that Turkey appreciated the “constructive approaches of Russia and Iran,” who he said came together on Saturday to discuss the situation with Turkey and the United Nations’ Special Envoy for Syria. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iraq, Egypt and Jordan also contributed to discussions, he said.
Bilal
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It has been lost for a while now. Why put the burden on the new Syrian setup?
Right now the priority should be:
- stop and bring SDF controlled area under full Syrian control
- form a government
- rebuild the country
Musings
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I think the point is Turkey could stop the oil at any point and they didn’t - this suggests they were complicit
Arabia
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I ask once again, are you retarded?
What has an incompetent, murderous and puppet Al-Assad regime (that cannot survive without outside support as seen in the last few days, lost territory permanently to Israel etc.) to do with other regimes?
Last time I checked the GCC does not kill its own people, has not lost any lands of their own to outsiders, instead they provide free healthcare, education, no taxation, world class infrastructure (some of the best in the world if not the best), stability and security, opportunities etc. Much like China, Singapore and other authoritarian regimes.
While I prefer democracy as a system (meritocracy ideally but this is unrealistic), there are different levels of authoritarian systems. Nor did I say that democracy = perfect system. I would prefer to live in China than India 1000 billion times over for instance despite India being a so-called democracy and China a dictatorship where you are surveilled 24/7 in everything that you do from the moment you wake up.
The problem with Al-Assad is that he has been murdering 100.000's of Syrians, destroyed Syria, did not develop it at all, was a sold out and was a hindrance to the success of Syria. It is almost impossible for there to be a worse regime to succeed him.
To put it short, he was completely incompetent and was only good at murdering his own people, destroying his own cities, towns and villages and making statues of his useless father and himself and forcing Syrians to have pictures of him and his father in every public building. That will be his legacy. That and losing Syrian land to Israel and destroying his country.
Ran away as the coward he always was as well. Pathetic. Even the likes of Gaddafi and Saddam were in a different league compared to him. At least they were never cowards.
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ghazi52
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Iron-fisted Assad never quelled the Syrian rebels who came back to topple him
Statues of Assad’s father and brother were toppled in cities taken by the rebels, while pictures of him on billboards and govt offices were torn down, stamped on, burned or riddled with bullets.Reuters
December 8, 2024
Syria’s Bashar al-Assad used Russian and Iranian firepower to beat back rebel forces during years of civil war but never defeated them, leaving him vulnerable to their breathtaking advance when his allies were distracted by wars elsewhere.
President for 24 years, Assad flew out of Damascus for an unknown destination early on Sunday, two senior army officers told Reuters. Rebels declared the city “free of the tyrant Bashar al-Assad”. A half-century of Assad family rule was over, army command told officers, according to a Syrian officer.
Statues of Assad’s father and brother were toppled in cities taken by the rebels, while pictures of him on billboards and government offices were torn down, stamped on, burned or riddled with bullets.
Assad became president in 2000 after his father Hafez died, preserving the family’s iron-fisted rule and the dominance of their Alawite sect in the Sunni Muslim-majority country and Syria’s status as an Iranian ally hostile to Israel and the US.
Shaped in its early years by the Iraq war and crisis in Lebanon, Assad’s rule was defined by civil war, which spiralled out of the 2011 Arab Spring, when Syrians demanding democracy took to the streets, to be met with deadly force.
Branded an “animal” in 2018 by US President Donald Trump for using chemical weapons — an accusation he denied — Assad outlasted many of the foreign leaders who believed his demise was imminent in the early days of the conflict, when he lost swathes of Syria to rebels.
Helped by Russian air strikes and Iranian-backed militias, he clawed back much of the lost territory during years of military offensives, including siege warfare condemned as “medieval” by UN investigators.
With his opponents largely confined to a corner of northwestern Syria, he presided over several years of relative calm, though large parts of the country remained out of his grasp and the economy was shackled by international sanctions.
Assad re-established ties with Arab states that once shunned him but remained a pariah to much of the world and never managed to revive the shattered Syrian state, whose armed forces swiftly retreated in the face of rebel advances.
He has not delivered any public remarks since insurgents took Aleppo a week ago but said in a call with Iran’s president that the escalation sought to redraw the region for Western interests, echoing his view of the revolt as a foreign-backed conspiracy.
Justifying his response to the insurgency in its early stages, Assad compared himself to a surgeon. “Do we say to him: ‘Your hands are covered in blood?’ Or do we thank him for saving the patient?” he said in 2012.
Early in the conflict, as rebels seized town after town, Assad oozed confidence.
“We will hit them with an iron fist and Syria will return to how it was,” he told soldiers after taking back the town of Maaloula in 2014.
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Don’t - attacking members rather than discussing topic is something you shouldn’t attempt
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