Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

Eye doctor​

Assad often presented himself as a humble man of the people, appearing in films driving a modest family car and in photographs with his wife visiting war veterans in their homes.

He took office in 2000 after his father’s death, but had not always been destined for the presidency.

Hafez had groomed another son, Bassel, to succeed him. But when Bassel died in a 1994 car crash, Bashar was transformed from an eye doctor in London — where he studied as a postgraduate — to heir apparent.

Upon becoming president, Assad seemed to adopt liberal reforms, painted optimistically as “the Damascus spring”.

He released hundreds of political prisoners, made overtures to the West and opened the economy to private companies.

His marriage to British-born former investment banker Asma Akhras — with whom he had three children — helped foster hopes he could take Syria down a more reformist path.

High points of his early dalliance with Western leaders included attending a Paris summit where he was a guest of honour at the annual Bastille Day military parade.

But with the political system he inherited left intact, signs of change quickly dried up.

Dissidents were jailed and economic reforms contributed to what US diplomats described, in a 2008 embassy cable released by WikiLeaks, as “parasitic” nepotism and corruption.

While the elite did well, drought drove the poor from rural areas to slums where the revolt would blaze.

Tensions built with the West after the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 turned the Middle Eastern power balance on its head.

The assassination of Lebanon’s Rafik al-Hariri in Beirut in 2005 prompted Western pressure that forced Syria’s withdrawal from its neighbour. An initial international probe implicated senior Syrian and Lebanese figures in the killing.

While Syria denied involvement, former Vice President Abdel-Halim Khaddam said Assad had threatened Hariri months earlier — an accusation Assad also denied.

Fifteen years later, a UN-backed court found a member of the Iranian-backed Hezbollah guilty of conspiring to kill Hariri. Hezbollah, an Assad ally, denied any role.
 
Are you guys not calling yourself an "Islamic Republic"? See, this Ummah idea is easy to talk about but in practice nobody is following it (nation states). You expect Arabs (divided into 20 different sovereign nation states with 20 different regimes and 20 different politics, ambitions, goals) to defeat nuclear armed Israel backed by the most powerful country in history (USA) and the entire West (with good ties with the likes of Russia and China as well)?
We are an Islamic Republic and we even sent our pilot aces to help you ungrateful lot and got a 100% K/D ratio. But instead of infighting Arabs should grow a pair and fight the real enemy. Where tf is your Sunni "HTS" when Israel just took remaining 20% of Golan and Mount Hermon and now they can easily shell Damascus by simply placing artillery there.

Talk is cheap and unlike Arabs we always have helped Muslims around the globe. Helped bitchass Saudis to kill terrorist rats in Grand Mosque seizure of 1979; broke UN Embargo in Bosnia and flooded it with ATGMS.

Drop the fckin attitude and go take back your land cause Jews are bending over and railing Syria as we speak.
 
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Assad’s car collection.

Really do you think that Erdogan ones are cheaper?.
What is the difference between Erdogan and Assad.
Let me tell you... Assad never dealt with Israel.
 
He is pro Arab ( united Arab )

His main line of argument is the following.

It is a Palestinian-Israeli conflict, not an Arab-Israeli conflict. When you will understand it?

Don’t interfere. Israel is powerful. Most Jews are Arabs. All the powerful countries support Israel. Etc. These are all the talking points of someone like Netanyahu.
 
Are you guys not calling yourself an "Islamic Republic"? See, this Ummah idea is easy to talk about but in practice nobody is following it (nation states). You expect Arabs (divided into 20 different sovereign nation states with 20 different regimes and 20 different politics, ambitions, goals) to defeat nuclear armed Israel backed by the most powerful country in history (USA) and the entire West (with good ties with the likes of Russia and China as well)?

It is a Palestinian-Israeli conflict, not an Arab-Israeli conflict. When you will understand it?

As a pro-Al-Assad/Pro-Iranian Mullah regime fanboy, where was your talk about the Golan Heights for the past 50 + years? It was lost by your regime. Nobody else. The same regime whose greatest ally (Iran) did nothing to free it.

Bitches? If not for the world powers (USA and before British Empire) Arabs could annihilate all Jews of the region within a few days. The same Arabs ruled what is today Israel and Jews for millennia. What are you even talking about? Most Israeli Jews are Arab Jews to begin with. Ever wondered why so many dead Israeli soldiers look like your average Palestinian? You think they dumped down from Mars?

Who is stopping you from becoming nuclear and returning the favor? Pakistan despite limited resources and extreme pressure became a nuclear power. You Arabs have a bloc. Pakistan is just one lone country. These are all old excuses from the Arab world. The truth is that almost every Zionist GCC Arab country is hand and glove with Israel. We are not buying it anymore.
 
Who is stopping you from becoming nuclear and returning the favor. These are all old excuses from the Arab world. The truth is that almost every Zionist GCC Arab country is hand and glove with Israel. We are not buying it anymore.
I have been sayin this. They should drop their attitude; learn how to fight; grow a pair and go fight the real enemy.

I perfectly sense their underlying racism but it has no substance to it. If we were in the region we wouldn't be getting railed like them.
 
We are an Islamic Republic and we even sent our pilot aces and got a 100% K/D ratio. But instead of infighting Arabs should grow a pair and fight the real enemy. Where tf is your Sunni "HTS" when Israel just took remaining 20% of Golan and Mount Hermon and now they can easily shell Damascus by simply placing artillery there.

Talk is cheap and unlike Arabs we always have helped Muslims around the globe. Helped bitchass Saudis to kill terrorist rats in Grand Mosque seizure of 1979; broke UN Embargo in Bosnia and flooded it with ATGMS.

Drop the fckin attitude and go take back your land cause Jews are bending over and railing Syria as we speak.

This is a undocumented fairytale. At most there might have been 1-2 VOLUNTEER Pakistani pilots involved while 99.99% of them were Arabs. Not really something to brag about either as those Arab regime armies were mostly useless outside of 1973 (Egypt).

So will I prefer to focus on the 2000´s of years where pre-Islamic and Islamic Arab kingdoms, empires, caliphates etc. ruled Jews (you tried to use Zionist ill treatment of defenseless Palestinians as something to bash Arabs with - even though they have nothing to do with it and even though you and everybody else knows that Israel would be nothing in front of combined Arab forces if not for the British Empire/now USA that helps it militarily, economically, politically 24/7 to such an extent that Jews basically rule the US) you prefer to focus on failures such as past Arab regimes and today (now also past) the Al-Assad regime. Not surprised, as it makes sense.

Give it a few weeks/months, and assess the situation, Syrians just removed their dictator less than 24 hours ago and you expect them to fight Israel already when not all of Syria has been liberated? :ROFLMAO:

Nobody other than Arabs have helped Muslims across the world more financially and in terms of spreading Islamic teachings.

Arabs helped Bosnia as well and more Arab volunteers fought than Pakistanis. In any conflict in the Islamic world, Arabs were always the biggest group of foreigners. From Chechnya to Afghanistan to Bosnia. A fact. Albeit not all of those involved were good people.

The 1979 Grand Mosque Seizure was the job of the SANG and French special forces. Pakistan played no role.

You are the one with an attitude and trolling, I just showed you the mirror and you had no reply other than trolling.
 
His main line of argument is the following.

It is a Palestinian-Israeli conflict, not an Arab-Israeli conflict. When you will understand it?

Don’t interfere. Israel is powerful. Most Jews are Arabs. All the powerful countries support Israel. Etc. These are all the talking points of someone like Netanyahu.

Ya Arab is not in a single entity, you can see UAE, Marocco, etc for example
 
Really do you think that Erdogan ones are cheaper?.
What is the difference between Erdogan and Assad.
Let me tell you... Assad never dealt with Israel.

All Muslim leaders from Islamic countries are the same.

There is a reason why Muslims and Islamic countries are in decline.
 
I have been sayin this. They should drop their attitude; learn how to fight; grow a pair and go fight the real enemy.

I perfectly sense their underlying racism but it has no substance to it. If we were in the region we wouldn't be getting railed like them.

Let them pretend that everything is fine.

I have one advice for Pakistan and Pakistanis. Don't rely on anyone including Arabs. Pakistan must learn to stand on its own feet despite all challenges and problems.
 
Are you guys not calling yourself an "Islamic Republic"? See, this Ummah idea is easy to talk about but in practice nobody is following it (nation states). You expect Arabs (divided into 20 different sovereign nation states with 20 different regimes and 20 different politics, ambitions, goals) to defeat nuclear armed Israel backed by the most powerful country in history (USA) and the entire West (with good ties with the likes of Russia and China as well)?

It is a Palestinian-Israeli conflict, not an Arab-Israeli conflict. When you will understand it?

As a pro-Al-Assad/Pro-Iranian Mullah regime fanboy, where was your talk about the Golan Heights for the past 50 + years? It was lost by your regime. Nobody else. The same regime whose greatest ally (Iran) did nothing to free it.

Bitches? If not for the world powers (USA and before British Empire) Arabs could annihilate all Jews of the region within a few days. The same Arabs ruled what is today Israel and Jews for millennia. What are you even talking about? Most Israeli Jews are Arab Jews to begin with. Ever wondered why so many dead Israeli soldiers look like your average Palestinian? You think they dumped down from Mars?
Most of the Arabs are traitors. The only Arabs who fought for Palestine are the Shia Arabs of Lebanon, Iraq and Yemen.
 

Biden will meet today with his national security team on Syria, White House says​

From CNN’s Betsy Klein

US President Joe Biden is set to receive an update Sunday morning from his national security team on the extraordinary developments in Syria, the White House said.

“President Biden will meet with his national security team this morning to receive an update on the situation on Syria,” National Security Council spokesperson Sean Savett posted on X.

The Biden administration is keenly aware that the end of the Assad regime — and what happens next — could fundamentally reshape the balance of power in the Middle East.

Biden has been closely monitoring the “extraordinary” events, Savett said in an earlier statement, and the administration has been “in constant touch with regional partners.”
 
This is a undocumented fairytale. At most there might have been 1-2 VOLUNTEER Pakistani pilots involved while 99.99% of them were Arabs. Not really something to brag about either as those Arab regime armies were mostly useless outside of 1973 (Egypt).
Yes we felt generous and sent our aces and got kills. PAF always has been the undisputed kings in the sky. Arabs cant relate. And yes you are right Arab regime armies were and are useless.
Nobody other than Arabs have helped Muslims across the world more financially and in terms of spreading Islamic teachings
You mean funding Jihadis ( not good one's) everywhere?
Arabs helped Bosnia as well and more Arab volunteers fought then Pakistanis.
Yes cause we supplied the most crucial ATGMs, airlifted them and nullified Serbian armour. Every tom dick and harry can supply bodies; whicj exactly yall are.
The 1979 Grand Mosque Seizure was the job of the SANG and French special forces. Pakistan played no role.
SSG ( Pakistani ) and GIGN ( French ). Saudis always have been cowardly.
You are the one with an attitude and trolling, I just showed you the mirror and you had no reply other than trolling.
I have an attitude cause I belong to a Nuclear Power.
 

Two wars changed Syria’s fortune. What comes next is impossible to know​


Analysis by Nick Paton Walsh, CNN
Updated 3:56 AM EST, Sun December 8, 2024


A damaged poster of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Aleppo.


A damaged poster of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in Aleppo.
Mahmoud Hassano/Reuters
CNN —

In every crisis lies opportunity, and in every opportunity lurks crisis.

The startling advance of Syria’s opposition in a week is the unintended consequence of two other conflicts, one near and one far. It leaves several key US allies with a new and largely unknown Islamist-led force, governing swathes of their strategic neighbor – if not most of it, given the pace of events, by the time you read this.

Syria has absorbed so much diplomatic oxygen in the past 20 years, it is fitting this week of sweeping change popped up as if from a vacuum. Since the invasion of Iraq, the US has struggled to find a policy for Syria that could accommodate the vastly different needs of its allies Israel, Jordan, Turkey, and its sometime partners Iraq and Lebanon.

Syria has always been the wing-nut of the region: linking Iraq’s oil to the Mediterranean, the Shia of Iraq and Iran to Lebanon, and NATO’s southern underbelly Turkey to Jordan’s deserts. George W Bush put it in his Axis of Evil; Obama didn’t want to touch it much in case he broke it further; Donald Trump bombed it once, very quickly.

It has been in the grip of a horrifically brutal dictatorship for decades. Hama, Homs, Damascus – all again in the headlines overnight because of the regime’s swift fall, yet too home to the most heinous parts of its history – respectively the 1982 massacre of 20,000 in Hama, or the 2012 siege and then starvation of Homs, or the gassing with Sarin in Ghouta, near Damascus, of children in basements in 2013. Then there was ISIS from 2014 to 2017. There seemed little more you could subject Syria to, until this week brought it liberation, thus far at an unknown cost, with vast caveats.

The swiftly changing fate of Bashar al-Assad was not really made in Syria, but in southern Beirut and Donetsk. Without the physical crutches of Russia’s air force and Iran’s proxy muscle Hezbollah, he toppled when finally pushed.

Syrian opposition fighters drive past a burning government armored vehicle south of Hama, Syria, on Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024.


Syrian opposition fighters drive past a burning government armored vehicle south of Hama, Syria, on Saturday, Dec. 7, 2024.
Ghaith Alsayed/AP

Israel’s brutal yet effective two-month war on Hezbollah probably did not pay much mind to Assad’s fate. But it may have decided it. Likewise, the Russian invasion of Ukraine, 34 months ago, likely considered little how few jets or troops it might leave Moscow to uphold its Middle Eastern allies with. But the war of attrition has left Russia “incapable” of assisting Assad, even President-elect Donald Trump noted on Saturday. And indeed Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov cut a weakened figure this weekend, saying: “What is the forecast? I cannot guess. We are not in the business of guessing.” These are not the words of a steadfast and capable guarantor, rather those of a regional power seeing its spinning plates hit the floor.

Iran has been wildly hamstrung in the past six months, as its war with Israel, usually in the shadows or deniable, evolved into high-stakes and largely ineffective long-range missile attacks. Its main proxy, Hezbollah, was crippled by a pager attack on its hierarchy, and then by weeks of vicious airstrikes. Tehran’s pledges of support have done little so far but result in a joint statement with Syria and Iraq on “a need for collective action to confront” the rebels.
 

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