Indian Americans - USA and Western politics

[ST1976]

bro, as per in post#21, its the only 31% Middle Class of India who drive Manfacturing & Service sector of India.
more than 60% population of India is based on agriculture and they might having Per Capita income compared to agriculture countries like Nepal.....

I would say, India is "self sufficient" for Its wide range of industries with countries like Russia. India-Russia-Iran dont have to trade with US-NATO
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Buddy, I don't know how to say this to you

Most INDIANS ARE IDIOTS

if any country in the world had a open door immigration policy towards India, they would make their country into a Indian slum with street shitting and communal violence and the rest of it

This is more to do with the selective immigration process

If you carefully select the most educated or competent of a country with over 1.4 billion people and bring many of them over on specific educational or work visa with waiting jobs then the outcome is not a result of that countries people but more because you only selected a tiny competent and educated, motivated minority and left the rest of the 1.4 billion street shitters at home

here we find GDP on PPP per capita of India at $11,112 as compared to Agriculture countries like Nepal at $5,348 and Myanmar at $5,206 .

List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

here we find Middle Class of India is estimated at nearing 31% , as below in the article

How the middle class will play the hero in India's rise as world power

Imagine desi companies easily growing into global biggies supported by vast domestic scale. Growing disposable incomes, along with the rise of the middle class, will make India a consumption powerhouse.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

hence i would say, 31% Middle class of India would be having income more than $20,000+ on PPP while remaining more than 60% population of India, mostly based on agriculture, would be having per capita income close to Agriculture countries like Nepal and Myanmar, listed at $5,348 and $5,206 respectively ......

while its also true that GDP of developing countries have a large share of 'undocumented' part of GDP also. the ratio of GDP we dont document to measure true picture of Per Capita Income as in case of developing countries

 

[ST1976]

Buddy, I don't know how to say this to you

Most INDIANS ARE IDIOTS

if any country in the world had a open door immigration policy towards India, they would make their country into a Indian slum with street shitting and communal violence and the rest of it

This is more to do with the selective immigration process

If you carefully select the most educated or competent of a country with over 1.4 billion people and bring many of them over on specific educational or work visa with waiting jobs then the outcome is not a result of that countries people but more because you only selected a tiny competent and educated, motivated minority and left the rest of the 1.4 billion street shitters at home

Obviously "Indian Immigrants" are related to tech fields like software and medical...many through the H1B program. I'm in financial software and there are many H1B workers and we are all paid in the $200,000+ range so seeing a figure of $150,000 is not surprising. Actually it has only been in the last 10 years that Indian workers have been paid well. Previously they all worked through agencies which took a big cut of their pay.

good day sir. how you people see my last post#181?

here we see the 31% Middle Class of India having Per Capita Income at 20,000+ on PPP, close to developed countries.
while the remaining 69% population, mostly based on Agriculture, having per capita income close to Agriculture countries like Nepal-Myanmar etc, post#181....

here, its worth saying that people of India-Nepal-Myanmar based on Agriculture have more peaceful life that those who are based on Manufacturing & Serivces. how would you see this difference

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

sir, here is an article of Forbes, published nearing recession, by Feb 24, 2009, as below.
here we find Indian origin were having highest income than common Americans by 10years before also. ......
it details as below

https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/24/bobby-jindal-indian-americans-opinions-contributors_immigrants_minority.html?sh=3b7c23c8583b

=> key points:

Despite constituting less than 1% of the U.S. population, Indian-Americans are 3% of the nation's engineers, 7% of its IT workers and 8% of its physicians and surgeons.

Indian Americans are in fact a new "model minority." This term dates back to the 1960s, when East Asians--Americans of Chinese, Japanese and Korean descent--were noted for their advanced educations and high earnings.

In 2007, the median income of households headed by an Indian American was approximately $83,000, compared with $61,000 for East Asians and $55,000 for whites.

Indian Americans are also less likely to be poor or in prison, compared with whites.

The success of Indian Americans is also often ascribed to the culture they bring with them, which places strong--some would even say obsessive--emphasis on academic achievement.

When statistical adjustments are used to convert the backward digit span results to full-scale IQ scores, Indian Americans place at about 112 on a bell-shaped IQ distribution, with white Americans at 100. 112 is the 79th percentile of the white distribution. For more context, consider that Ashkenazi Jews are a famously intelligent ethnic group, and their mean IQ is somewhere around 110.

In sharp contrast to Indian Americans, most U.S. immigrants, especially Mexican, are much less wealthy and educated than U.S. natives, even after many years in the country.

A new immigration policy that prioritizes skills over family reunification could bring more successful immigrants to the U.S. By emphasizing education, work experience and IQ in our immigration policy, immigrant groups from other national backgrounds could join the list of model minorities.

Constructing new legislation is always difficult, but I propose a simple starting point for immigration selection: Anyone who can spell guerdon is in!

https://www.forbes.com/2009/02/24/bobby-jindal-indian-americans-opinions-contributors_immigrants_minority.html?sh=3b7c23c8583b

This is why we have a skill based immigration policy instead of simply wide open borders..which BTW the Liberal Democrats are simply to trying undo.

BTW you just keep posting the same points over and over in this thread just to keep this thread alive.

 

[sentry]

Buddy, I don't know how to say this to you

Most INDIANS ARE IDIOTS

if any country in the world had a open door immigration policy towards India, they would make their country into a Indian slum with street shitting and communal violence and the rest of it

This is more to do with the selective immigration process

If you carefully select the most educated or competent of a country with over 1.4 billion people and bring many of them over on specific educational or work visa with waiting jobs then the outcome is not a result of that countries people but more because you only selected a tiny competent and educated, motivated minority and left the rest of the 1.4 billion street shitters at home

Why go and say all that? You can just say they would make the cou try like Pakistanis are making the other countries. Lol.

 

[ST1976]

Why go and say all that? You can just say they would make the cou try like Pakistanis are making the other countries. Lol.

This is why we have a skill based immigration policy instead of simply wide open borders..which BTW the Liberal Democrats are simply to trying undo.

BTW you just keep posting the same points over and over in this thread just to keep this thread alive.

a news as below.....

Funnily, he talks about Muslims immigrating to USA. Which is fair and okay.
But what about Americans living in Middle East or in Muslim majority countries?

Another thing:

You think the injustices and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq can be forgiven so easily? The murder of a million Afghanistanis and Iraqis can be forgiven so easily?

The obvious answer is no, and people will be seeking retribution.

a news we have on google search, as below
its funny to see Americans as compared to immigrants
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=> Financially, Muslims are about as likely as Americans in general to have a household income over $100,000. At the same time, they are more likely than Americans in general to have an income under $30,000

Google Search

www.google.com

 

[ST1976]

My Indian colleagues who were all highly paid oil n gas professionals privately told me that the reason they refuse to go back to India is cuz theys don’t want their kids to be in a polluted environment. Some also stated that Indian culture is toxic and they don’t want their kids exposed to it. The sniveling, the snitching, the back biting the constant envy, cribbing and griping.

This is all part of gypsy culture and most are glad they left all that behind.

I told Ajay Ghatak this a while ago, and I’m sure he’s one of the few here who actually understands this.

things are not that rosy in Western countries. you suppose that your daughter get fucked in schools along with others, and then she will not be that educated further also.....
i remember, many of top Indian professionals dont want their daughter to live in Western countries, you may trust me

even with your son? a usual group sex of western schools and you would slowly slowly lose 'proud' from your son also

the Western schools have serious 'culture' difference as compared to Asians. i remember Mr Faisal Nabi used to send his kids to Muslim school in Perth-Australia.
Mr F. Nabi used to work with me in WMA ltd as Projects Engineer, he was from UP also

Mr F.Nabi left his job of ONGC, a central govt job, and came to Australia and this is what he faced here. he came in WMA ltd after me .......

 

[Lulldapull]

This is why we have a skill based immigration policy instead of simply wide open borders..which BTW the Liberal Democrats are simply to trying undo.

BTW you just keep posting the same points over and over in this thread just to keep this thread alive.

He's scared that someone goin phuckk his mama or son while he's out cleanin toilets down unda.

That's the entire argument of his thesis here.

What to say here?.....

P.S. He didn't say that his daddy is vulnerable too.......

 

[ST1976]

This is why we have a skill based immigration policy instead of simply wide open borders..which BTW the Liberal Democrats are simply to trying undo.

BTW you just keep posting the same points over and over in this thread just to keep this thread alive.

how would you respond to my last post#186?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

how would you respond to my last post#186?

I'm not interested in getting involved in petty Pakistani/Indian PDF cat fights.

 

[ST1976]

I'm not interested in getting involved in petty Pakistani/Indian PDF cat fights.

we were discussing, Indians are Creamy Layer of US-west. the industries of US-west are highly dependent on Skilled Indian work force. .....

American common citizens paying less than 1/3 a third Tax than Indians is also state 'grading', between the people, as compared to locals of US

US-west can't run their industries without Indian immigrants, its a information....

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List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[ST1976]

Mexico, Philippines and Pakistan are more impressive

India is the most populated country in the world, it's obvious why they or China would be there

Philippines and Mexico are 13/14 times smaller then India yet their remittance is only 2-3 times smaller

Pakistan population wise is 6-7 times smaller but it's remittance is 4 times smaller


Most impressive is the current order
Mexico
Philippines
Pakistan
India
China

@Hamartia Antidote

good day sir
as per the information of Indian immigrants in US-west in post#190, India mostly gets Remittances from "White Collar Jobs" holders Hindus there.

the similar report I have about the Indian workers in Gulf nations, if we separate Hindus and Muslims of India. Hindus mostly do White Collar Jobs , with much Higher Taxpayer people as compared to locals of Gulf/Arab League similar to US-west

Note: we describe "Blue Collar Jobs" for labours .
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List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[hussain0216]

@Hamartia Antidote

good day sir
as per the information of Indian immigrants in US-west in post#190, India mostly gets Remittances from "White Collar Jobs" holders Hindus there.

the similar report I have about the Indian workers in Gulf nations, if we separate Hindus and Muslims of India. Hindus mostly do White Collar Jobs , with much Higher Taxpayer people as compared to locals of Gulf/Arab League similar to US-west

Note: we describe "Blue Collar Jobs" for labours .
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List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yeah that's because of the selective immigration policies where they bring in educated white collar migrants

If you open the doors to everyone then UAE would look like bihar

 

[ST1976]

Yeah that's because of the selective immigration policies where they bring in educated white collar migrants

If you open the doors to everyone then UAE would look like bihar

sir, we find Biharis are similar to Bangladeshis in India. population rose and a big number migrated to do poor jobs, which is true

sir, there are to type of migrants, "the immigrants who generate jobs by helping local industries and those who take other jobs, like labourer who take jobs of locals."

the difference between those who are taken for White Collar Jobs and as compared to those who do Blue Collar Jobs would be analysed

 

[RHCP]

This thread went from "lets make fun of NRIs" to "lets make excuses for why they do better then us".

 

[ST1976]

Yeah that's because of the selective immigration policies where they bring in educated white collar migrants

If you open the doors to everyone then UAE would look like bihar

This thread went from "lets make fun of NRIs" to "lets make excuses for why they do better then us".

sir, for migrants for India, specially Hindus, its a proud if/ who get selected for foreign job. if you get selected to take a job of American or Gulf, its something asked, "are you happy to lose a job of US/Gulf to this Indian immigrant, and why?"

the entry to US-West and Gulf are never for free