tower9
Registered Member
Assad should’ve never been ruler. His brother Basel was much more suited for the job. Even then this family should’ve opened the country up to share power with others, they set themselves up for this tragedy.
Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation
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Assad should’ve never been ruler. His brother Basel was much more suited for the job. Even then this family should’ve opened the country up to share power with others, they set themselves up for this tragedy.
UKBengali
Elite Member
Why do you as a non-Muslim see this but Muslims so easily are taken in by the lies, propaganda and deceit?
Mehdipersian
Trusted Member
Do you really think that a backward country and a servant of the West like Turkey can do anything? Everything is ordered and supported by Israel from and done by its own puppet. Assad and the Syrian army did not resist. Assad himself wanted to leave.
UKBengali
Elite Member
Sorry bro but that poster is a BD'shi who thinks he is a "neo Ottoman".
Maybe some of them think that Turkey makes its own decisions, but others probably are too ashamed to admit the truth that Turkey is a Zionist lackey and does their bidding.
onlinpunit
Trusted Member
So who is the final winner ?
Syrian
Sunnis
Turkey
Israel
USA
Syrian
Sunnis
Turkey
Israel
USA
UKBengali
Elite Member
onlinpunit
Trusted Member
Hein !. @Hakikat ve Hikmet is BD ?
Mehdipersian
Trusted Member
Turkey is a puppet for NATO. Turkish people can't even pray Namaz but they claim to be Muslim. There is a US military base in Turkey with nuclear bombs to target the region. The whole economy of Turkey is in the hands of western companies.The Turkish army is under the control of American generals. Turkish school textbooks are approved by the US.
tower9
Registered Member
Well not for Assad. He ran away with a $2 billion dollar fortune and is ensconced in a luxury penthouse in Moscow. His children are attending school in China and his family will probably be happier now living in luxury without the responsibilities of statecraft. Although he will have to constantly watch his back for the rest of his life. You also never know if your invitation will wear out and if Putin will hand you over one day. He was a useless ally after all.
tower9
Registered Member
Idk honestly. I have paid attention to the Palestinian cause for a long time but So I guess I recognize who is working on behalf of the Zionists easily.
onlinpunit
Trusted Member
Assad was the last Ba'athist leader of Arabia. A friend of india.
I hope the new Establishment will take care of the need Syrians.
Syrians are real nice people and i have met many of them during my official work. Let the peace prevails.
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I hope the new Establishment will take care of the need Syrians.
Syrians are real nice people and i have met many of them during my official work. Let the peace prevails.
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The SC
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What has #russia lost with the fall of the Assad regime in #Syria?Russia's defeat in Syria and the fall of the Assad regime is not just a blow to Putin's reputation. It is more complex. So let's go through the points that Russia has lost along with Assad.
Firstly, the potential gains. Can the Russian forces from Syria strengthen the occupying army in Ukraine? No, these forces cannot significantly influence the course of the war in Ukraine.
Most of the Russian troops in Syria are specialists in aviation, air defence and technical units, which are poorly suited to the needs on the front here. And there are certain problems with the evacuation of equipment there.
And yes, the migration of forces and resources from Syria to Ukraine was one of the reasons for the rapid collapse of Assad.
Loss of role in the Middle East. Russia has largely lost its status as a major player, as Syria was its most important ally in the region.
Without the Assad regime, it will be difficult for Russia to influence important countries in the region (Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel).
Russia has also lost its role as a counterweight to the US in the region, which strengthens the position of Washington and its allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates).
The loss of the strategic military bases in Tartus and Khmeimim (which has not yet occurred but is very likely to happen in the near future) means the loss of a logistical hub for building a Russian presence in the Mediterranean, the Middle East and Africa.
Almost all operations in Africa were conducted through Syrian hubs. Now Russia has definitely lost the ability to respond quickly to conflicts in the region.
Economic losses. Russia has invested billions of dollars in supporting Assad in the hope of long-term economic benefits.
- Fertilizers. Russian companies have mined phosphates in Syria. One of the largest phosphate deposits in the world is located there, and phosphates are an important component of global food security.
- Crude oil. The company Stroytransgaz (controlled by Gennady Timchenko) has obtained the rights to develop important oil and gas fields in Syria. - Logistics. In 2019, Russia signed a 49-year lease agreement for the seaport of Tartus..This port was to be used as a logistics center for trade, the transport of resources and military operations.
- The collapse of the regional narcotics trade. Syria was a centre for the production of phenethylene, also known as Captagon, a synthetic substance that was then transported to Europe and the Middle East. Russia was a "stakeholder" in this flow..Now this source of money for Russia will dry up.
The growing influence of Erdogan and the weakening of Iran's role will also affect Tehran's and Moscow's energy policy ambitions. Iran has lost an important partner, which reduces its influence in the Middle East
The Iranian armed forces have already been effectively withdrawn from the country and the government in Tehran is negotiating with the Sunnis in Syria over the security of the Shiites, which is the maximum of its options
Erdogan will now control almost all the oil and gas routes to the Black Sea and the Mediterranean. Europe will be able to breathe freely. Russia has lost its instrument with which it can blackmail the EU by controlling the movement of people and energy resources.
Russia planned to use Syria to transport oil and gas to the Mediterranean, which would give it access to European markets. The instrument of putting pressure on Europe by fuelling migration crises has also disappeared.
All of this is a sign of the decline of Russia's global influence. The fall of Assad has discredited Russia as a reliable partner for other dictatorships. The collapse of the regime within a few weeks has shown that Moscow is unable to effectively maintain its assets.
The collapse of the Syrian project has further destroyed the myth of Russia's "invincibility" and highlighted the country's limited global influence. Syria was an important lever for Russia in its negotiations with the West, including on the Ukraine issue.
And no matter what the Russian theorists and Trump say, everything that has happened is evidence of Russia's actual capabilities, which have declined significantly over the years.
@boris_beissner
Firstly, the potential gains. Can the Russian forces from Syria strengthen the occupying army in Ukraine? No, these forces cannot significantly influence the course of the war in Ukraine.
Most of the Russian troops in Syria are specialists in aviation, air defence and technical units, which are poorly suited to the needs on the front here. And there are certain problems with the evacuation of equipment there.
And yes, the migration of forces and resources from Syria to Ukraine was one of the reasons for the rapid collapse of Assad.
Loss of role in the Middle East. Russia has largely lost its status as a major player, as Syria was its most important ally in the region.
Without the Assad regime, it will be difficult for Russia to influence important countries in the region (Iran, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Israel).
Russia has also lost its role as a counterweight to the US in the region, which strengthens the position of Washington and its allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates).
The loss of the strategic military bases in Tartus and Khmeimim (which has not yet occurred but is very likely to happen in the near future) means the loss of a logistical hub for building a Russian presence in the Mediterranean, the Middle East and Africa.
Almost all operations in Africa were conducted through Syrian hubs. Now Russia has definitely lost the ability to respond quickly to conflicts in the region.
Economic losses. Russia has invested billions of dollars in supporting Assad in the hope of long-term economic benefits.
- Fertilizers. Russian companies have mined phosphates in Syria. One of the largest phosphate deposits in the world is located there, and phosphates are an important component of global food security.
- Crude oil. The company Stroytransgaz (controlled by Gennady Timchenko) has obtained the rights to develop important oil and gas fields in Syria. - Logistics. In 2019, Russia signed a 49-year lease agreement for the seaport of Tartus..This port was to be used as a logistics center for trade, the transport of resources and military operations.
- The collapse of the regional narcotics trade. Syria was a centre for the production of phenethylene, also known as Captagon, a synthetic substance that was then transported to Europe and the Middle East. Russia was a "stakeholder" in this flow..Now this source of money for Russia will dry up.
The growing influence of Erdogan and the weakening of Iran's role will also affect Tehran's and Moscow's energy policy ambitions. Iran has lost an important partner, which reduces its influence in the Middle East
The Iranian armed forces have already been effectively withdrawn from the country and the government in Tehran is negotiating with the Sunnis in Syria over the security of the Shiites, which is the maximum of its options
Erdogan will now control almost all the oil and gas routes to the Black Sea and the Mediterranean. Europe will be able to breathe freely. Russia has lost its instrument with which it can blackmail the EU by controlling the movement of people and energy resources.
Russia planned to use Syria to transport oil and gas to the Mediterranean, which would give it access to European markets. The instrument of putting pressure on Europe by fuelling migration crises has also disappeared.
All of this is a sign of the decline of Russia's global influence. The fall of Assad has discredited Russia as a reliable partner for other dictatorships. The collapse of the regime within a few weeks has shown that Moscow is unable to effectively maintain its assets.
The collapse of the Syrian project has further destroyed the myth of Russia's "invincibility" and highlighted the country's limited global influence. Syria was an important lever for Russia in its negotiations with the West, including on the Ukraine issue.
And no matter what the Russian theorists and Trump say, everything that has happened is evidence of Russia's actual capabilities, which have declined significantly over the years.
@boris_beissner
UKBengali
Elite Member
It is simple about Turkey:
1. Recognised the Zionist entity in 1949. Does not even share a border and so this was not under duress like Egypt that lost the economically important Sinai peninsula that it needed back.
2. Member of Nato even in 2024 - an anti-Muslim and anti "Global South" alliance at its core.
3. Still supplying oil to the entity to help it to commit genocide against Gazans.
What is so hard from looking at these facts and then working out what Turkey really is and who it works for?
Strider
Elite Member
They are not stupid enough to create a situation that will make it more unpredictable for them. The real winner in this war is Türkiye. Israel? It's a 50/50 at best.
Ex-IDF chief: Israel prefers that Assad stay in power
Dan Halutz also skeptical about the prospects of a peace agreement with the Palestinians in the near future
www.timesofisrael.com
‘Israel prefers Bashar Assad to Islamist rebels’
Israeli officials reportedly tell the London Times: Better the devil we know than the demons we can only imagine
www.timesofisrael.com
Netanyahu: Israel has no problem with Assad, agreements must be upheld
'We Haven't Had a Problem With the Assad Regime, for 40 Years Not a Single Bullet Was Fired on the Golan Heights,' the Prime Minister Says Before Taking Off From Moscow
Israel PM helped to topple Assad, but it wasn't planned, analysts say
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday claimed the fall of Bashar al-Assad in Syria as a direct outcome of Israel's actions in the region, something analysts in Israel said was only partially true.
www.france24.com
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