Operation Marg Bar Sarmachar: Pakistan strikes Back

[Developereo]

Something big is brewing up, bigger than the region itself...try linking US statements regarding Iran....shipping getting attacked in waters around Iran and its proxies, Israel already pissed off by Iran equipped or pro Iran proxies, then something happens and Iran is coaxed into reacting like it did against Iraq, against shipping etc....and then US trying to make up a case of Iran being thoroughly irresponsible....i personally think there is definitely much more than meets the eye.

I know you are one of the few people here with actual military background but I have to respectfully disagree. Israel has been itching to start a US-Iran fight but the US has resisted and will continue to resist.

Top priority for US is Russia and China. Russia has been nicely contained in the Ukraine quagmire, and the US is keeping a wary eye on China. Even a superpower like the US does not want to open a third front distracting its attention.

Russia, on the other hand, has every reason to flare up a US-Iran fight. They also have some influence with Iranian leadership. Just a crazy theory out of left field...

 

[Bilal]

Be careful with this feed.

Yes but the pain it’s causing to some is hilarious.

 

[Joe Shearer]

there are two parallel entities there. The conventional state apparatus and IRGC.

What are you trying to do, get some Indians, a lot of them, actually, banned?

 

[Bilal]

What are you trying to do, get some Indians, a lot of them, actually, banned?

Not at all. I understand what you are pointing to, but there is a difference which I hinted to in my post in this part: “If IRGC were in full control of the state the situation would still be more predictable.”

That is the fundamental difference. It’s neither this nor that over there in Iran.

 

[Oscar]

No EW or AEWACs?

Supporting role by AEW / ew not required for the generally sparse AD in that area plus J-10s are capable of doing a little on their own.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Not at all. I understand what you are pointing to, but there is a difference which I hinted to in my post in this part: “If IRGC were in full control of the state the situation would still be more predictable.”

That is the fundamental difference. They its neither this nor that over there in Iran.

I have to confess, I had to walk away from the system - it was tempting!

Have to accept you have a point.

 

[Kambojaric]

If IRGC were in full control of the state the situation would still be more predictable. What I meant was at the moment there are two parallel entities there. The conventional state apparatus and IRGC.

You talk and negotiate with the established state institutions but what’s the guarantee that internally IRGC will complete to whatever has been agreed by those institutions since it’s completely independent.

I pointed the lack of attack on Afghanistan multiple times earlier. Imagine they claimed to attack IS”K”P which is based in Afghanistan, all the way in northern Syria.

I get that point and agree, there are parallel institutions seemingly in Iran. That makes it very difficult to negotiate/reach understandings with them as there are different powers with their own vested interests present.

To clarify, my point is that expanding on this reality it also seems like the power seems to be tilting towards the IRGC direction with time. That explains the recent irrational attack, and means that we can expect more irrationality in the coming years.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I get that point and agree, there are parallel institutions seemingly in Iran. That makes it very difficult to negotiate/reach understandings with them as there are different powers with their own vested interests present.

To clarify, my point is that expanding on this reality it also seems like the power seems to be tilting towards the IRGC direction with time. That explains the recent irrational attack, and means that we can expect more irrationality in the coming years.

Not fair.
Two of you making heavily suggestive remarks.
What did Ulysses do when passing the Sirens?

 

[Oscar]

I must unfilter this nagging thought- the operations name while pointed at the targets could also potentially be the name of a dish at a persian restaurant next to Fesanjan, Zereshk Polo Morgh, koobideh kabob and Chulu kabob. Morgh bar sarmachar.

Please forgive this lameness

 

[Bilal]

I get that point and agree, there are parallel institutions seemingly in Iran. That makes it very difficult to negotiate/reach understandings with them as there are different powers with their own vested interests present.

To clarify, my point is that expanding on this reality it also seems like the power seems to be tilting towards the IRGC direction with time. That explains the recent irrational attack, and means that we can expect more irrationality in the coming years.

That’s a good dish to serve.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I'd better walk away while I can.

 

[Bilal]

Not fair.
Two of you making heavily suggestive remarks.
What did Ulysses do when passing the Sirens?

Stop the temptation lest there is a ship wreck.

 

[Bilal]

I get that point and agree, there are parallel institutions seemingly in Iran. That makes it very difficult to negotiate/reach understandings with them as there are different powers with their own vested interests present.

To clarify, my point is that expanding on this reality it also seems like the power seems to be tilting towards the IRGC direction with time. That explains the recent irrational attack, and means that we can expect more irrationality in the coming years.

Indeed. And it’s becoming more and more apparent. I think (and I am not an expert) the balance started to shift post arab spring operations spearheaded by IRGC.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Stop the temptation lest there is a ship wreck.

Nobody thinks of the problems us poor professors face.

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[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Supporting role by AEW / ew not required for the generally sparse AD in that area plus J-10s are capable of doing a little on their own.

There was also blurry night footage released of rocket strikes, and drones were also claimed to be used