So what is the problem here, it's almost certain that Pakistan is getting J35.
Personally, the two years timeline doesn't seem legit as the plane is not ready let alone WS-19, everything else has nothing to do with J35.
Currently publicized official news:
SAC is in the process of building a new plant and relocation project. According to the plan, the first phase of the project is expected to be completed by the end of 2025. Ideally, work on J-35 production will begin in 2026. The first production run of any fighter jet will be small, and it will require adjustments to production facilities, specialized machinery, and many other factors. Ideally, mass production would begin in 2028-2030.
News from special sources:
Guiyang engine production plant builds both WS-21 and WS-19. the production line for WS-21 (conventional production line) is mature enough for mass production of WS-21. the production line for WS-19 is currently under construction. Its core engine production line and final assembly line are built to large-scale intelligent pulse production line standards. Once the construction is completed and it is officially in mass production, it will have a very large capacity (one production line has a capacity of about 60 units per month). But it still needs a lot of time.
that's because of our incompetency..China got access to apachee wreckage downed in abbotabad operation and today its taking shape of z-20..China has familiarized its pilots from Pakistani f-16s about the western tech.
I have no intention of my Pakistani friends arguing about this.
Apache to Z-20?Are you sure you're not trying to be funny? Please go and get some serious basic military knowledge first.
Please stop the thread on this!
You should not worry about hurting Pakistani self-esteem, as the truth needs to come out, and unless it does these Pakistani's will not self-reflect.
The 1980s were the honeymoon period between China and the United States. We were exposed to a lot of Western culture and knowledge. We naively thought that the world was equal and that we could get along with everyone in the world as equals. Unbeknownst to us, China at that time had been infiltrated by all kinds of Western conspirators. Although there were some sober Chinese and friendly foreigners who kept reminding the Chinese to be sober, their remarks were soon attacked by a large number of crazy Chinese and quickly drowned out these rational remarks.
It was not until the late 1980s that these “freedom and democracy” ideological trends reached their peak. The violent clash of East and West culminated in the Tiananmen Incident. After this, the Western world was completely closed to China. Only then did the Chinese realize the seriousness of the problem.
In the 1990s, we made up our mind to develop on our own. But the Western society did not allow us to do so. As a result, the 1993 Galaxy incident, the 1996 Taiwan Strait crisis, the 1999 NATO bombing of the Chinese embassy in the FRY, the 2001 South China Sea fighter collision ........
Until today, whenever China achieves something, there are some Chinese people who are complacent. And at this time, there are always more rational Chinese people who will rehash these shameful events that we have experienced, which make us always clear, always united and always full of fighting spirit.
Every year, September 18th is China's “National Shame Day”.
December 13 every year is China's “National Memorial Day”.
The sobriety of a nation or a country does not depend on the reminders of others. There are only bloody lessons to be learned.
I don't have any power to do such great things. The sobriety of Pakistanis depends only on Pakistanis themselves.
Don't hold back , Pakistanis have thick skin.......let me start , Pakistan is economically , politically and socially a fuked up country ...I mean it .......feel free and add to it .
The Chinese are very patriotic. When we disagree with the Chinese government/CCP on certain issues, we criticize or complain about them. We also criticize certain senior leaders. But we never bash the country (China/PLA). In our consciousness, such behavior is equal to treason.
I can accept Pakistanis criticizing Pakistani political parties or leaders, but I cannot accept Pakistanis criticizing Pakistan as a country. In my consciousness, such behavior is an act of treason against Pakistan.
I do not want to consider you as a traitor to Pakistan. So, please stop this behavior! At least, don't provoke me in this way!
