What book are you reading?

[Zarvan]

 

[panzerfaust 3]

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I am curious

 

[panzerfaust 3]

Here in India we have enough sages, saints and babas etc who live just such a life, they'll come down to the maha kumbha mela every 12 years and disappear into the forests and mountains of the Himalya again.

I've even known of the odd gora living the crazy hermit life (not babas, just extreme isolationists), one apparently built his own mini damn, enough to power some lights, forage fruits and berries in the woods.. ekdum pagal.

And they throw rocks at you when you meet them in the mountains!

And look at this fool wim hof callin himself the iceman! And trying to patent the yogic practices as wim hof method !



Idiots like him think they can learn yoga in india and call it their own invention ,rename and publicise it as their own some even go as far as to patent these practices!

We have thousands of yogis and sanyasis living ( running around naked) in sub zero temperatures
And he wonders why he's not popular in india

 

[panzerfaust 3]

@Kambojaric

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Excellent!
I have just started this one

 

[panzerfaust 3]

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Started this one. INSHALLAH hopefully would complete it soon very soon.

Don't read on your bed

Get a desk it will suit you better

 

[_NOBODY_]

Excellent!
I have just started this one

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These 3 are the only true works on stoicism. Everything else on stoicism is either garbage or an analysis of these 3 texts.

 

[Zarvan]

I am curious

About what?

 

[panzerfaust 3]

About what?

About the book mostly, looks pretty interesting to me !

 

[panzerfaust 3]

These 3 are the only true works on stoicism. Everything else on stoicism is either garbage or an analysis of these 3 texts.

Oh yes , I wanna take my time with this one ,
I won't be gobbling It up like a novel!

I will go through with this very slowly and feel the depth of the ideas

Epictetus will be the next

 

[Zarvan]

 

[Zarvan]

 

[Nilgiri]

@_NOBODY_ @markhor

Happy new year fellas. Was wondering any progress on your math understanding and game theory stuff from where we left off. I grapple with this stuff in real life, so I will try to give a couple insights I have I didn't have time for earlier.

 

[markhor]

@_NOBODY_ @markhor

Happy new year fellas. Was wondering any progress on your math understanding and game theory stuff from where we left off. I grapple with this stuff in real life, so I will try to give a couple insights I have I didn't have time for earlier.

Sadly, I've been very busy the last few weeks. Not the good kind of busy, repetitive and boring kind of busy. When the holiday season finally came, I got sick. Lately, my luck has been the hardest material on earth. So I wasn't able to indulge myself in them goodies. Since my area is (non-)linear control, which comes with optimization, my connection with game theory is usually in this regard although mostly it is convex optimization.

But since you've asked, I'll be studying and trying out SPE (sub-game perfect equilibrium) for time-variable discount factors (instead of geometric) in modeling MDPs. Although the concept is quite old, this application, however, seems interesting to me. And it also has potential in graphs, which may or may not help in simple decision trees or just path planning. This is closer to my area so hopefully it won't take me too far away.

 

[Nilgiri]

Sadly, I've been very busy the last few weeks. Not the good kind of busy, repetitive and boring kind of busy. When the holiday season finally came, I got sick. Lately, my luck has been the hardest material on earth. So I wasn't able to indulge myself in them goodies. Since my area is (non-)linear control, which comes with optimization, my connection with game theory is usually in this regard although mostly it is convex optimization.

But since you've asked, I'll be studying and trying out SPE (sub-game perfect equilibrium) for time-variable discount factors (instead of geometric) in modeling MDPs. Although the concept is quite old, this application, however, seems interesting to me. And it also has potential in graphs, which may or may not help in simple decision trees or just path planning. This is closer to my area so hopefully it won't take me too far away.

I have some points thought out already regarding this. It is more interesting to me (and also use the remaining quieter parts of this forum as a sounding board) than what goes on in most of this forum and social media these days that seems quite stale to me now (groundhog day stuff that is driven by various base emotions that virtual anonymity and virtual tribalism seems to amplify and sustain in its way to the detriment of progress and understanding)....especially as they are simply just one part of a much bigger thing that has gone on politically in human civilisation for its length of time compared to our individual lifetime.

But I will have to think a bit how to make it relatable in broader way first....so I don't lose any interested participants here and also better hone my approach for later interactions with others....or whatever constituent parts may particularly interest them to explore and discuss more.

As to why the phenomenon of mapping "breaking down" (i.e what is not preserved) often inevitably happens with (especially continued) higher dimension transforms at some point. It can be seen in various core parts of number theory to grasp the essence better regd algebraic theory that rests upon and branches from it.

My perception and understanding of the broad form relation to game theory is how this maps onto the social forces of the human realm w.r.t individual vs collective (tribe, authority for that tribe, how the tribe and authority has evolved to the much larger and more complex forms/spaces we have today)....especially as how it then relates to collective vs collective (tribe vs tribe) interactions, relations and management (as collectives slowly merge) during whichever snapshot past or present.

Basically my understanding from what I've seen is optimally we ideally want the feedback rate from the collective to its authority to be as good and as fast as the transmission rate of authority (large view perception and decision making) to the collective.

But it is never the case given what magnitude of levers authority enjoys by default by genuine inherited or developed trust or force (or mix of the two).

This mismatch can be hedged and distributed to the degree it can be (political science for example explores some of this)....but the basic predicament is what in its essence game theory as it relates to the human realm seeks to model....i.e rates not being equivalent in both directions (i.e what breaks down quicker in mapping given various coefficients at play in one direction, inverse-ability), human power becoming and end of itself for those already predisposed/beholden to contours of authority and thus the ultimately accelerative effect of things like fear, anger, envy where it can do much destructive damage to other social-tribes and vice versa.

i.e why does zero-sum (just one part of the game theory model) rest much easier at the higher levels of power (especially when its made unaccountable) these days, and was this always the case and simply the tribe size has grown and scaled over time (in that say the mitigating effect of the golden rule applies only within the tribe and is very tenuous due to those base emotions of fear et al for whats outside)?

Since the basic conundrum seems to be that human power tends to simplify the RGB colour wheel complexity of nuanced reality into black and white binomial forks for the decision tree to begin with as well.

Anyway @Joe Shearer @Oscar and others may be interested to watch this space too.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I have some points thought out already regarding this. It is more interesting to me (and also use the remaining quieter parts of this forum as a sounding board) than what goes on in most of this forum and social media these days that seems quite stale to me now (groundhog day stuff that is driven by various base emotions that virtual anonymity and virtual tribalism seems to amplify and sustain in its way to the detriment of progress and understanding)....especially as they are simply just one part of a much bigger thing that has gone on politically in human civilisation for its length of time compared to our individual lifetime.

But I will have to think a bit how to make it relatable in broader way first....so I don't lose any interested participants here and also better hone my approach for later interactions with others....or whatever constituent parts may particularly interest them to explore and discuss more.

As to why the phenomenon of mapping "breaking down" (i.e what is not preserved) often inevitably happens with (especially continued) higher dimension transforms at some point. It can be seen in various core parts of number theory to grasp the essence better regd algebraic theory that rests upon and branches from it.

My perception and understanding of the broad form relation to game theory is how this maps onto the social forces of the human realm w.r.t individual vs collective (tribe, authority for that tribe, how the tribe and authority has evolved to the much larger and more complex forms/spaces we have today)....especially as how it then relates to collective vs collective (tribe vs tribe) interactions, relations and management (as collectives slowly merge) during whichever snapshot past or present.

Basically my understanding from what I've seen is optimally we ideally want the feedback rate from the collective to its authority to be as good and as fast as the transmission rate of authority (large view perception and decision making) to the collective.

But it is never the case given what magnitude of levers authority enjoys by default by genuine inherited or developed trust or force (or mix of the two).

This mismatch can be hedged and distributed to the degree it can be (political science for example explores some of this)....but the basic predicament is what in its essence game theory as it relates to the human realm seeks to model....i.e rates not being equivalent in both directions (i.e what breaks down quicker in mapping given various coefficients at play in one direction, inverse-ability), human power becoming and end of itself for those already predisposed/beholden to contours of authority and thus the ultimately accelerative effect of things like fear, anger, envy where it can do much destructive damage to other social-tribes and vice versa.

i.e why does zero-sum (just one part of the game theory model) rest much easier at the higher levels of power (especially when its made unaccountable) these days, and was this always the case and simply the tribe size has grown and scaled over time (in that say the mitigating effect of the golden rule applies only within the tribe and is very tenuous due to those base emotions of fear et al for whats outside)?

Since the basic conundrum seems to be that human power tends to simplify the RGB colour wheel complexity of nuanced reality into black and white binomial forks for the decision tree to begin with as well.

Anyway @Joe Shearer @Oscar and others may be interested to watch this space too.

Yes, but only after I have read your post thoroughly, more than once. I am not a matutinal power.