Chinese 6th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[sutton9999]

My estimation

operation height: >30km
cruising speed: Mach2 - Mach3

It has a coffin cockpit (heat) and side-mounted IRST (height).

top cruising mode: Mach2 - Mach 3
low cruising mode: subsonic

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

The 5th gen aircrafts are really vulnerable in front of the 6th gen aircrafts, perhaps even bigger gap than between 4th gen and 5th gen.

 

[FHN]

 

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[enroger]

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This photoshop work is selling the weapon bay short, I expect it to be much deeper than this. J-20's mainbay is limited by intake ducts on top, J-36 has no such limit, in theory the mainbay can dig all the way to the top of the fuselage barring structural element

 

[iblini]

It takes only a decade from flying the first J20, FC31 to two sixth generation, I am still in shock after the last couple of days actually, by looking at them feels like they shouldn't be putting together.

 

[Leviathan]

The 5th gen aircrafts are really vulnerable in front of the 6th gen aircrafts, perhaps even bigger gap than between 4th gen and 5th gen.


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wow who made this？

 

[Deino]

If legit, then this is the so far clearest image showing the J-36 from behind.

Even more it clearly shown all three exhausts are the same which contradicts all the speculations about a third, completely different RAMJET engine in the middle

(Image via @cattalonX / SecretProjectsForum)

 

[Antonius123]

If legit, then this is the so far clearest image showing the J-36 from behind.

Even more it clearly shown all three exhausts are the same which contradicts all the speculations about a third, completely different RAMJET engine in the middle

(Image via @cattalonX / SecretProjectsForum)

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I think ramjet or RDE will be the next phase while the prototype is still using WS10C for the whole 3 engines.

 

[Alter_Ego]

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Looks damn good.
So any guesstimate how many PLA will build eventually?

100?
500?
1000?

Will this allow J-20 be opened for export down the road, just like J-10 was?

 

[Alter_Ego]

If legit, then this is the so far clearest image showing the J-36 from behind.

Even more it clearly shown all three exhausts are the same which contradicts all the speculations about a third, completely different RAMJET engine in the middle

(Image via @cattalonX / SecretProjectsForum)

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If i can figure this correctly the engine nozzles are designed like B-2 to reduce infrared signature but are NOT thrust vectoring.

 

[Deino]

@Michael & @iblini ... what is this? Is it legit / real anyway?

"又有大家伙要出来了" = "Another big guy is coming out"

Found at www.china-defense.com/smf/index.php?topic=8252.msg465999#msg465999

 

[Michael]

@Michael & @iblini ... what is this? Is it legit / real anyway?

"又有大家伙要出来了" = "Another big guy is coming out"

Found at www.china-defense.com/smf/index.php?topic=8252.msg465999#msg465999

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Older photos. This picture has been exposed in Chinese internet for a long time.
Similar old pictures.

 

[KingQamaR]

And
Lol why you think it's not a 6th gen please explain in detail? And CAC design is unrelated to H-20 design by XAC

And your answer to your stupid engine question all 5th gen engines having enough WET THRUST (NON-AFTERBURNING THRUST) to supercruise and conceal excess infrared signature at minimum

6th gen isn't just about a new stealthy airframe. Most 1st world nations can build a really stealthy airframe. 6th Gen has more to do with what the capabilities are when it comes to sensor awareness, drone operations, and new weapons development/ delivery.

 

[52051]

6th gen isn't just about a new stealthy airframe. Most 1st world nations can build a really stealthy airframe. 6th Gen has more to do with what the capabilities are when it comes to sensor awareness, drone operations, and new weapons development/ delivery.

First of all, not any first country can build a high stealth airframe and flying, not even in their PPTs.

And secondly, why you assume China dont have all the rest capabilites of sixth gen to develop, I posted Yang Wei's vision of next generation fighter here with source, you can check that.