Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics

[Foinikas]

He has been warning greece too, so I guess greece has nothing to worry about. Cancel the defense budget increase, its one narrative or the other, either there is legitimate desire but no action yet or there isn't. lol

Yeah but Greece isn't Israel. Greece has actual borders with Turkey,Greece has a lot of islands and Greece isn't as important as Israel for Americans. Plus we don't have the size and equipment of the Israeli Air Force.

Also,we almost went to war at least 3 times since the late '80s. Turkey basically had good relations with Israel since then.

 

[hyperman]

Yeah but Greece isn't Israel. Greece has actual borders with Turkey,Greece has a lot of islands and Greece isn't as important as Israel for Americans. Plus we don't have the size and equipment of the Israeli Air Force.

Also,we almost went to war at least 3 times since the late '80s. Turkey basically had good relations with Israel since then.

Hey if he isn't serious about anything and just talk, you have nothing to worry about cancel the defense purchases from Israel. lol

Let me ask you something, do you think Israel trusts Erdogan and Turkey? if the answer is no, ask yourself why is it no? lol

You can't have it both ways. Either its all talk but secretly best friends under the table or its not.

 

[Foinikas]

Hey if he isn't serious about anything and just talk, you have nothing to worry about cancel the defense purchases from Israel. lol

Let me ask you something, do you think Israel trusts Erdogan and Turkey? if the answer is no, ask yourself why is it no? lol

You can't have it both ways. Either its all talk but secretly best friends under the table or its not.

We almost went to war in 2020-2021. The rhetoric kept escalating until 2023. You know why it stopped suddenly.

Israel trusts noone and uses everyone.

 

[hyperman]

Israel trusts noone and uses everyone.

They trust Germany, UK, United States, they certainly don't do wargame scenarios against them and threat assesments.

Israel Security apparatus in their documents labeled Turkey #2 after Iran as State threats. Why do you think that is? lol

 

[UKBengali]

Its not Turkish Oil.

The oil means nothing regardless in the grand scheme of things, you guys argue in bad faith. Trying to weaponize that minutia.

Nice deflection btw to shield Nasrallah from the criticism of backing the overthrow of Gaddafi. Or Iran's help in overthrowing the Afghan govt or Iran help in facilitating the Iraq invasion to overthrow of Saddam.

Inconsequential oil(and it is inconsequential b/c of the oil market as explained previously) means more I guess than Nasrallah's support for the overthrow of Gaddafi I guess, or Iran helping with the overthrow of the Taliban or overthrow of Saddam.

Again more whataboutery about past events

"Inconsequential" is no excuse for helping in a genocide.

A drug dealer could just say he is "inconsequential" due to the the presence of other drug dealers in the local area but that won't absolve him of his personal responsibility.

The fact is that Nasrullah paid for his life to try to stop a genocide in Gaza while Turkey is facilitating it in an "inconsequential" way as you claim.

 

[Foinikas]

They trust Germany, UK, United States, they certainly don't do wargame scenarios against them and threat assesments.

Israel Security apparatus in their documents labeled Turkey #2 after Iran as State threats. Why do you think that is? lol

Hah they don't trust them! They use them! They trust noone!

 

[Foinikas]

Its not Turkish Oil.

But you still help them. You make it easier for them.

 

[Eşbah]

Again avoiding the question...for some weird reason.

Is it relevant for the topic of this thread?

 

[hyperman]

But you still help them. You make it easier for them.

nope, its inconsequential. literally. b/c oil changes hands, and there is a plethora of Russian Oil ships literally floating off the coast of Greece, literally in the same area of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Its like saying I won't sell Samsung to a guy

But assuming the production is fixed, and the phones are equivalent and indistinguishable and the demand is constant. In that case the person that would have bought the samsung then decided to buy the Huawei. And the extra samsung left over Huawei guys will buy.

No change at all.

And this doesn't even account for when you say you won't sell Samsung to a guy, so he sends his friend to the store to buy, and then the friend sells it to you. Will you ban the friend too? that only one degree of seperation, if you add more and more degrees of seperation, it will get to the point that you don't know which middle man sold to who and somehow the product ends up at the guy you didn't want it to go to. Thats the modern globalized world today. Commercial mass commodities can't be stopped from getting to buyers as long as production is constant and there is demand.

 

[Oublious]

Of course, Egypt and Turkey will buy, re-buy and supply, but the entity of Israeli must be supplied with everything it needs...if there is any deficit in entity, their Egypt/Turkey Muslim buddies are there to give hand to their most loving neighbor...

LoL

This is bussines, if you care so much off muslims why did you mess with Syrians?

 

[Oublious]

Again more whataboutery about past events

"Inconsequential" is no excuse for helping in a genocide.

A drug dealer could just say he is "inconsequential" due to the the presence of other drug dealers in the local area but that won't absolve him of his personal responsibility.

The fact is that Nasrullah paid for his life to try to stop a genocide in Gaza while Turkey is facilitating it in an "inconsequential" way as you claim.

lol

Past events, millions are dead but Poorsians should not be reponsible for deads and destroying a country. Thats how Iranian logic works, but pointing to others they are masters....

fak off drug dealer...

 

[Oublious]

What i do not understand, Iran is faked up. Little zionists bombed ther infrastructure and destroyed ther gas power plant, they are not able to give basic need off ther people still bitching around Syria.

Ther ass is wooped out by Turks in Syria, zionists attacked them could do nothing. Kicked out off Yemen, soon Iraq will kick them out. I mean just focus your energy to your own poor country.

 

[hyperman]

Again more whataboutery about past events

"Inconsequential" is no excuse for helping in a genocide.

A drug dealer could just say he is "inconsequential" due to the the presence of other drug dealers in the local area but that won't absolve him of his personal responsibility.

The fact is that Nasrullah paid for his life to try to stop a genocide in Gaza while Turkey is facilitating it in an "inconsequential" way as you claim.

NATO Agent Nasrallah backed the Overthrow of Gaddafi. Infact this guy backed the Arab spring everywhere except where his interests were threatened.

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You want to be upset, go be upset at the Hezbollah Successors who betrayed Nasrallah's words and went back on the separating the Gaza front from the Lebanese front, by agreeing to a ceasefire in Lebanon without there being a ceasefire in Gaza.

You want to be upset go be upset at the Iranians not retaliating after Haniyah's Assassination in Tehran. Go be upset at the lack of "True Promise 3", go be upset that the Houthis have been abandoned by Iran, just like they Abandoned Haniyah' death and how they abandoned Hezbollah. You noticed how the Strikes from Iraq PMUs have stopped as well? and now Houthis have no support from another front? Thats Iran's "deescalation" to save themselves, by agreeing to US diplomacy.

Thats actually something you should be upset about if Gaza means so much to you, not sales of inconsequential oil that Turkey has very little control over. lol

Iran only cares about Iran, and when it feels weak, its willing to make deals to sell out its "allies", so self survival.

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[Oublious]

NATO Agent Nasrallah backed the Overthrow of Gaddafi. Infact this guy backed the Arab spring everywhere except where his interests were threatened.

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You want to be upset, go be upset at the Hezbollah Successors who betrayed Nasrallah's words and went back on the separating the Gaza front from the Lebanese front, by agreeing to a ceasefire in Lebanon without there being a ceasefire in Gaza.

You want to be upset go be upset at the Iranians not retaliating after Haniyah's Assassination in Tehran. Go be upset at the lack of "True Promise 3", go be upset that the Houthis have been abandoned by Iran, just like they Abandoned Haniyah' death and how they abandoned Hezbollah. You noticed how the Strikes from Iraq PMUs have stopped as well? and now Houthis have no support from another front? Thats Iran's "deescalation" to save themselves, by agreeing to US diplomacy.

Thats actually something you should be upset about if Gaza means so much to you, not sales of inconsequential oil that Turkey has very little control over. lol

Iran only cares about Iran, and when it feels weak, its willing to make deals to sell out its "allies", so self survival.

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Interesting, wher can we watch the full video?


Lanaaattt Amriiccaaaaa....

 

[hyperman]

Interesting, wher can we watch the full video?


Lanaaattt Amriiccaaaaa....

That videos is from 2011, its from Nasrallah's weekly talks he used to give, I think, he gave a speech right after people were protesting Gaddafi and some fighting started, before NATO had intervened, Nasrallah was egging them on to overthrow Gaddafi, saying shit like NATO wants to keep Gaddafi, but Hezbollah will offer support and go overthrow Gaddafi "brave mujahadeen" etc etc.

Brother I have a huge collection of these videos saved up, out of respect for these Iranians I wasn't saying anything b/c they were fighting the zios and b/c I didn't want any beef with them, but after all these attacks on Turkey and especially the opportunism when they jumped on that clip where there were rumors of Turkey normalizing with Assad and some the people in the safe zones protested, and all the Iran trolls came in here smelling blood and bashing Turkey, plus these attacks after Assad fell, I think I'm not gonna hold back anymore. lol