Why the Afghan Taliban won the Afghanistan war against USA (2001-2021)

[fitpOsitive]

The urge for destruction was greater than then urge for construction. Taliban came to power for eastablishing peace in Afghanistan but then when USA challenged them they saw another opportunity to fight and bury the issues which arise in any society just after war ends. Talib structure is built for fighting, they don't have intellectual capacity to handle political issues.
I think Pakistan is next battlefield. All the people who want wakhan will run away. In the end common people will die in clashes and blasts.

 

[Muji.Iqbal]

The urge for destruction was greater than then urge for construction. Taliban came to power for eastablishing peace in Afghanistan but then when USA challenged them they saw another opportunity to fight and bury the issues which arise in any society just after war ends. Talib structure is built for fighting, they don't have intellectual capacity to handle political issues.
I think Pakistan is next battlefield. All the people who want wakhan will run away. In the end common people will die in clashes and blasts.

Pakistan is perfectly fine with Afghan Taliban.

Allah has given Afghan Taliban a second chance. Now they need to prove to the world they can build Afghanistan which is their country.

 

[Punch777]

They don't recognize Durand line or KP, Waziristan and even Balochistan and you call them pro-Pakistan ?

I don't recognise it either, border fence should be 10km further from Kabul.

 

[Lulldapull]

This is just nonsense on starvation!.....Tens of millions of Afghani roaming the planet looking to be accepted as humans and not neanderthals.

Bukvaas narrative no?

Hard to believe we even discuss afghani here.

 

[ST1976]

i have some news about Afghan's foreign/western stay's and the war.....

US-west couldn't earn Tax outside Kabul, a credible source of information. hence we find, US/western stay in Afghan was mainly limited to Kabul, or little bit it was seen in Kandhar type of cities only.
means, the Map of Afghan was never under US's military.
they have been patrolling of regional Afghan, but the true rule was absent...

 

[Vikramaditya1]

The only reason they won is Pakistan, the Taliban were virtually wiped out soon after Western intervention and had it not been for tacit Pakistani support they would stayed that way

Afghans probably sees it this way. The Americans and the west used Pakistan to gain foothold in Afghanistan. The Taliban then used the same Pakistan to end the their presence in Afghanistan. You got played by both sides.

 

[chinasun]

The Taliban's victory in the Afghanistan war against the United States was largely due to their mastery of guerrilla warfare, strong local support, and effective psychological tactics. They operated in small, mobile units that blended seamlessly into the local population, enabling surprise attacks and quick retreats. This tactic minimized their exposure to counterattacks and exploited the superior mobility and adaptability of their forces. The Taliban also established parallel governance structures, providing basic services and a sense of order in areas where the central government was absent or ineffective. Their court system was perceived as more accessible and less corrupt, winning local support. Psychological warfare further bolstered their position, as they portrayed themselves as defenders of Islam and the Afghan people against foreign occupation. This narrative resonated with many, undermining the legitimacy of the Afghan government and foreign forces. Additionally, regional support, particularly from Pakistan, helped sustain their operations, providing crucial resources and safe havens.

 

[hussain0216]

Afghans probably sees it this way. The Americans and the west used Pakistan to gain foothold in Afghanistan. The Taliban then used the same Pakistan to end the their presence in Afghanistan. You got played by both sides.

The other way around,, USSR, USA, NATO, India and the Afghan Republic were all threats to Pakistani strategic interests and they were dealt with

The Taliban are afghans at the end of the day and we can't expect any better then any other Afghan, however they are isolated whilst the Afghan Republic was not isolated and could be used against Pakistan, so a Afghanistan under the Taliban is far far more manageable

 

[hussain0216]

The Taliban's victory in the Afghanistan war against the United States was largely due to their mastery of guerrilla warfare, strong local support, and effective psychological tactics. They operated in small, mobile units that blended seamlessly into the local population, enabling surprise attacks and quick retreats. This tactic minimized their exposure to counterattacks and exploited the superior mobility and adaptability of their forces. The Taliban also established parallel governance structures, providing basic services and a sense of order in areas where the central government was absent or ineffective. Their court system was perceived as more accessible and less corrupt, winning local support. Psychological warfare further bolstered their position, as they portrayed themselves as defenders of Islam and the Afghan people against foreign occupation. This narrative resonated with many, undermining the legitimacy of the Afghan government and foreign forces. Additionally, regional support, particularly from Pakistan, helped sustain their operations, providing crucial resources and safe havens.

Pakistan controlled, supported, organized and trained the resistance inside Afghanistan

Without Pakistan they would be cooked

The fact that Pakistan has done this against the USSR, USA, NATO and India is no small feat

All Pakistan asked from the Afghans is to calm the hell down afterwards so the region can move forward

 

[Vikramaditya1]

The other way around,, USSR, USA, NATO, India and the Afghan Republic were all threats to Pakistani strategic interests and they were dealt with

The Taliban are afghans at the end of the day and we can't expect any better then any other Afghan, however they are isolated whilst the Afghan Republic was not isolated and could be used against Pakistan, so a Afghanistan under the Taliban is far far more manageable

And yet none of the countries lost anything but you. You are still fighting a war one way or other and bogged down by it. Has your situation improved post Taliban take over or has it turned for the worst? You even had to pull troops from the LoC and border, while your military keeps your country on edge by talking about Imminent Indian invasion. Your sepoys must be feeling scared to move to any border except Indian lol!

 

[hussain0216]

And yet none of the countries lost anything but you. You are still fighting a war one way or other and bogged down by it. Has your situation improved post Taliban take over or has it turned for the worst? You even had to pull troops from the LoC and border, while your military keeps your country on edge by talking about Imminent Indian invasion. Your sepoys must be feeling scared to move to any border except Indian lol!

The USSR lost and ran
The USA, NATO and India lost and ran

That victory is complete

History doesn't stop though, the Afghans are Afghans they have been causing some sort of problems for decades why would they stop now? But Afghanistan as a state has been dismantled and the Taliban is isolated and we can use different pressure points from border closure etc to keep them managed

And no significant forces have been moved to the Afghan border, their is no significant threat that we need to move forces or equipment in large scale


The military doesn't need to do anything, we all hate India and Hindus to be specific, we can all see the hindutva poison inside India, why they hell would the military need to tell us anything

We already know India is the enemy and we need to remain prepared

 

[Vikramaditya1]

The USSR lost and ran
The USA, NATO and India lost and ran

That victory is complete

History doesn't stop though, the Afghans are Afghans they have been causing some sort of problems for decades why would they stop now? But Afghanistan as a state has been dismantled and the Taliban is isolated and we can use different pressure points from border closure etc to keep them managed

And no significant forces have been moved to the Afghan border, their is no significant threat that we need to move forces or equipment in large scale


The military doesn't need to do anything, we all hate India and Hindus to be specific, we can all see the hindutva poison inside India, why they hell would the military need to tell us anything

We already know India is the enemy and we need to remain prepared

Again India lost nothing. All India did was involve in projects and keep some Talibunnies or government officials happy. India's main focus was Afghan people and keeping the hate for Pakistan alive. Which we successfully executed.
We send wheat to Afghan people and make sure they know it's given by India. These kinds of contacts works well with deep psyche of Aghans. You're being bled by thousand cuts by TTP and Balochis. You had to move significant troops towards Afghan border and Balochistan. Even Iran is firing missiles into your country.
Your enemy is growing leaps and bounds while you keep fighting shadow wars with whatever is the new terror group popping out in your place.

Also, your military being unpopular also works in our favour. Sure keep believing this hindooo bad while getting killed by fellow muslim belonging to XYZ group. Truly thank you Jinnah

 

[hussain0216]

Again India lost nothing. All India did was involve in projects and keep some Talibunnies or government officials happy. India's main focus was Afghan people and keeping the hate for Pakistan alive. Which we successfully executed.
We send wheat to Afghan people and make sure they know it's given by India. These kinds of contacts works well with deep psyche of Aghans. You're being bled by thousand cuts by TTP and Balochis. You had to move significant troops towards Afghan border and Balochistan. Even Iran is firing missiles into your country.
Your enemy is growing leaps and bounds while you keep fighting shadow wars with whatever is the new terror group popping out in your place.

Also, your military being unpopular also works in our favour. Sure keep believing this hindooo bad while getting killed by fellow muslim belonging to XYZ group. Truly thank you Jinnah

India lost 20 years of planning and investment, India alongside the U.S and NATO was defeated and kicked out

It was total victory for the ISI and our military planners , it was one of Pakistans greatest victories alongside defeating the USSR

Just because the aftermath is a mess doesn't meant the victory wasn't great

And NO, our forces are pointed towards INDIA
This is because you can't use our conventional military against random Afghan yahoos

What's the point of sending our military to the Afghan border it would make no sense

We are a nation of 250 million, yet all last year our losses against terrorism was in the few hundreds

We will lose more people to traffic accidents or falling off ladders


The Afghans will be bought to heel because they can't survive without Pakistans support

It's only been a few years after the fall of the Afghan Republic, the Taliban will play ball because they need a open border and Pakistani help to function and trade


Pakistan has done superbly in turning South Asia away from India and bringing China in to support South Asia against India whilst pushing the USA and NATO out of the region

 

[ST1976]

India lost 20 years of planning and investment, India alongside the U.S and NATO was defeated and kicked out

It was total victory for the ISI and our military planners , it was one of Pakistans greatest victories alongside defeating the USSR

Just because the aftermath is a mess doesn't meant the victory wasn't great

And NO, our forces are pointed towards INDIA
This is because you can't use our conventional military against random Afghan yahoos

What's the point of sending our military to the Afghan border it would make no sense

We are a nation of 250 million, yet all last year our losses against terrorism was in the few hundreds

We will lose more people to traffic accidents or falling off ladders


The Afghans will be bought to heel because they can't survive without Pakistans support

It's only been a few years after the fall of the Afghan Republic, the Taliban will play ball because they need a open border and Pakistani help to function and trade


Pakistan has done superbly in turning South Asia away from India and bringing China in to support South Asia against India whilst pushing the USA and NATO out of the region

Sir, those who may defeat US/NATO deserve Rule in return

The son of soil of Afghanistan, the victorious Taliban, were neither 'robbers' nor terrorists, they were militia only. I would favor Russia who supported diplomatic relation with Taliban with a seat in UN

 

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