Syrian Civil War and The future of Syria after liberation

[Foinikas]

What you are referring to called "Benevolent Despotism" in political Science circles, and its a farce.

Says the guy who supports Erdogan,ey?

 

[Foinikas]

A Greek and a non-muslim Persian are telling us who should rule the Syrian people?

Better than an American from America and a German from Germany

 

[hyperman]

Says the guy who supports Erdogan,ey?

Democratically elected with a Popular Mandate. Do you even know what "Benevolent Despotism" its for places that don't have elections or rule by popular consent, but the proponents say it doesn't matter b/c the person is "doing good".

Consent of the governed - Wikipedia

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Popular sovereignty - Wikipedia

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[hyperman]

Illiteracy in Egypt is 30% so 30 millions are out of the equation. The middle class (the core of democracy) has disappeared. Now it is either poor or rich

Thats not how democracy works. lol, Nigeria for example has worse literacy rates and India has similar, yet no one says democracy should be removed from there. All this is stemming from your internalized own inferiority complex about muslims and specifically arab muslims.

 

[Foinikas]

Democratically elected with a Popular Mandate.

Consent of the governed - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Popular sovereignty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

OH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

How many people has Erdogan sacked or imprisoned since 2016??? How many times has he interfered to kick mayors and others from their positions? The other day,another Kurdish mayor was removed. How many university deens have been removed? How many newspapers and TV stations have been shut down because they weren't going along with AKP lines?

 

[hyperman]

OH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

How many people has Erdogan sacked or imprisoned since 2016??? How many times has he interfered to kick mayors and others from their positions? The other day,another Kurdish mayor was removed. How many university deens have been removed? How many newspapers and TV stations have been shut down because they weren't going along with AKP lines?

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Links to the PKK and in other cases are cases of Gulenists that were arrested years back post coup attempt.

The removal of mayor exist elsewhere as well. For example in the United States a Governor has the right to remove a mayor. If someone in Deerborn, Michigan was elected with links to Al Qaeda, they would be removed even if they were elected.

Mayors also get removed for illegal activity.

In Turkey some mayors were removed b/c they funneled State resources towards the PKK.

Turkey is one of the few places where people are allowed to run for elected office even from Prison.

 

[Shags101]

Says the guy who supports Erdogan,ey?

Honestly I really did have high hopes from him

 

[Foinikas]

Links to the PKK and in other cases are cases of Gulenists that were arrested years back post coup attempt.

Ela re malakaaa,half the country has been called "Gulenist" by now

Every time Erdogan doesn't like someone,suddenly he's a "gulenist".

 

[hyperman]

Ela re malakaaa,half the country has been called "Gulenist" by now

Every time Erdogan doesn't like someone,suddenly he's a "gulenist".

Except those guys literally had gulenist links... lol

They were all using the App used by gulenists, they were in contact with people in Gulenist lodges among other matters. Thats how deep states work, they permeate through different sectors and ecosystems.

 

[Foinikas]

Honestly I really did have high hopes from him

Why? He's just an overly pro-Turkish guy who doesn't care about Syria,but progressing Turkish agenda. He will accuse me,the Iranians,the other Arabs or however,as "not caring for Syria",but in the end all he stands for is neo-Ottoman dreams. He will fervently support every Turkish endeavour,but hides his origins and ethnicity.

 

[Foinikas]

Except those guys literally had gulenist links... lol

They were all using the App used by gulenists, they were in contact with people in Gulenist lodges among other matters. Thats how deep states work, they permeate through different sectors and ecosystems.

Oh now Gulenists have lodges? Like Freemasons?

 

[hyperman]

Why? He's just an overly pro-Turkish guy who doesn't care about Syria,but progressing Turkish agenda. He will accuse me,the Iranians,the other Arabs or however,as "not caring for Syria",but in the end all he stands for is neo-Ottoman dreams. He will fervently support every Turkish endeavour,but hides his origins and ethnicity.

My outlook on Syria is more inline with the wide majority of actual Syrians than yours. Thats a fact.

 

[hyperman]

Oh now Gulenists have lodges? Like Freemasons?

You have no idea who Gulenists are, do you?

Yeah they have lodges. they are an entire chain of command and "big brothers" in the movement. The guide you though the movement.

 

[Foinikas]

You have no idea who Gulenists are, do you?

Yeah they have lodges. they are an entire chain of command and "big brothers" in the movement. The guide you though the movement.

Yeah and apparently everyone who didn't vote for AKP is a Gulenist

 

[hyperman]

Yeah and apparently everyone who didn't vote for AKP is a Gulenist

Not at all, Plenty of people didn't vote for the AKP but aren't Gulenists. You don't know the ins and out of turkish politics.