Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Because of her call for normalization with Israel, a Kuwaiti court today sentenced Kuwaiti media figure Fajr Al-Saeed to 3 years in prison with hard labor.

Kuwait criminalizes any call for normalization with Israel

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well done to Kuwait. An Arab state with honour that refuses to normalise with Israel (along with Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iraq). Egypt is also fulfilling its obligations in a different way, and wants to play an important role in the rebuilding of Gaza.

If Saudi Arabia can allocate 5-10% of what it promised to invest in the USA to Gaza it could fund the entirety of the rebuilding of Gaza. The problem is the Saudis have big egos and need to be praised 24/7 for everything they do and get offended very easily.

Is this some kind of joke?

Why should KSA pay for something that Israel and the West is behind, including your tax money and everyone on this forum who resides in the West and is subject to paying taxes?

No Arabs in the region have anything to do with it even remotely. Even the Arab countries whose regimes have "normalized" with Israel, have done so based on the wishes/interests of the rulers not the people who never voted for such steps nor support it in their majority.

Of course KSA will have an ego as the largest country in the region (by a considerable margin), the richest (3rd most natural/mineral resources in the entire world only behind Russia and USA - https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090516/10-countries-most-natural-resources.asp) , wealthiest (in terms of overall economic size - G-20 member state and largest combined sovereign wealth fund wealth only comaparable to China, Norway, Switzerland, GCC (which has the most combined - worth several trillion dollars), one of the largest gold reserves, one of the least debt of any country, home to Makkah and Madinah, most political clout in the region by some wide margin as well (Putin and Trump meeting in KSA to talk about Ukraine is a good very recent example of this) etc., a country with a recorded history of 10.000 + years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Magar , some of the world's oldest historical artifacts, civilizations/cultures, successor state/birth state/region of some of the largest and most influential empires in history (Rashidun, Ummayad, Abbasid, Fatimid) etc., and numerous dynasties of emirates, sultanates, kingdoms, imamates that ruled large areas on 3 continents from Spain to South East Asia, one of the few countries in the world never colonized by the West, birth place of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and numerous other Prophets etc.

I could go on but it is self-evident.

A better question. Why can Iran not help rebuild Gaza as well and Syria too while we are at it?

The new Syrian government is demanding 300 billion USD in reperations from Iran for example.

New Syria government to demand $300 billion in compensation from Iran over war damage

Syria’s new interim government is reportedly set to demand $300 billion in compensation from Iran for the damage it caused to the war-torn country throughout the civil war. According to the o…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

KSA has nothing to do with Gaza/Hamas/Israel or the ongoing conflict. If anything KSA in the past 3-4 years has tried to diffuse wars/conflicts everywhere in the region as KSA has the most to lose in case of major regional war/s as KSA is on a impresive trajectory on every front and has the largest infrastructure boom in the entire world.

Just news from today.

https://www.financemiddleeast.com/news/saudi-arabia-targets-1-trillion-infrastructure-investment-by-2030/

The UAE’s ambassador to the US recent comments:

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I dislike the foreign policy trajectory of UAE in places like Sudan, Libya (opposite of KSA' stances - but this is irrelevant as no nation state is free from wrong policies, KSA included), their dealings with Israel etc. but we don't know the context of the question asked. We only hear the answer. Not even the current rulers of UAE would publicly support the idea of Palestinians being evicted from Gaza and the West Bank - none of which is ever going to happen mind you irrespective of Israeli or American wishes.

There is a lot of propaganda aimed at UAE/Arab governments when in reality even the likes of UAE has been one of the biggest donors to Palestine/Gaza since October 7th while in theory they could easily ignore the entire situation altogether.

They have done more "on the ground" by humanitarian aid alone than the likes of Iraq, Yemen, Algeria etc. who have no diplomatic relations with Israel.

As have wealthy European states who likewise have open relations with Israel.

For instance tiny UAE has done much more than 250 million nuclear armed Pakistan.

The likes of 150 million big Bangladesh are nowhere to be seen. Nor even my favourite Indonesia. Some 300 million people and most Muslims in the world apparently.

Mind you apparently in those 3 countries there is "democracy" (democrazy as I prefer to call it) so apparently their lack of doing anything is reflective of their people unlike the likes of Bahrain, UAE, Morocco, Egypt, Jordan and Sudan.

Shame that we hear no criticism from Palestinian champions (keyboard warriors based in the West paying taxes to the same West that actively supports Israel on every front 24/7)) while the same shameless people are cursing Arabs of the region who have nothing to do with the conflict.

Absolutely pathetic lot that nobody in the region takes seriously and who have ZERO influence and that will always remain the case.

 

[UKBengali]

Everything wrong with that, these little halfbreeds never end up Muslim or with any faith, values or culture

To be fair look at the UAE and how they are Zionist slaves.

That comment is a little racist and while being half white may have contributed to his traitory it is not the only reason why as plenty of full blooded Arabs are traitors as well.

 

[FuturePAF]

Is this some kind of joke?

Why should KSA pay for something that Israel and the West is behind, including your tax money and everyone on this forum who resides in the West and is subject to paying taxes?

No Arabs in the region have anything to do with it even remotely. Even the Arab countries whose regimes have "normalized" with Israel, have done so based on the wishes/interests of the rulers not the people who never voted for such steps nor support it in their majority.

Of course KSA will have an ego as the largest country in the region (by a considerable margin), the richest (3rd most natural/mineral resources in the entire world only behind Russia and USA - https://www.investopedia.com/articles/markets-economy/090516/10-countries-most-natural-resources.asp) , wealthiest (in terms of overall economic size - G-20 member state and largest combined sovereign wealth fund wealth only comaparable to China, Norway, Switzerland, GCC (which has the most combined - worth several trillion dollars), one of the largest gold reserves, one of the least debt of any country, home to Makkah and Madinah, most political clout in the region by some wide margin as well (Putin and Trump meeting in KSA to talk about Ukraine is a good very recent example of this) etc., a country with a recorded history of 10.000 + years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Magar , some of the world's oldest historical artifacts, civilizations/cultures, successor state/birth state/region of some of the largest and most influential empires in history (Rashidun, Ummayad, Abbasid, Fatimid) etc., and numerous dynasties of emirates, sultanates, kingdoms, imamates that ruled large areas on 3 continents from Spain to South East Asia, one of the few countries in the world never colonized by the West, birth place of Prophet Muhammad (saws) and numerous other Prophets etc.

I could go on but it is self-evident.

A better question. Why can Iran not help rebuild Gaza as well and Syria too while we are at it?

The new Syrian government is demanding 300 billion USD in reperations from Iran for example.

New Syria government to demand $300 billion in compensation from Iran over war damage

Syria’s new interim government is reportedly set to demand $300 billion in compensation from Iran for the damage it caused to the war-torn country throughout the civil war. According to the o…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

KSA has nothing to do with Gaza/Hamas/Israel or the ongoing conflict. If anything KSA in the past 3-4 years has tried to diffuse wars/conflicts everywhere in the region as KSA has the most to lose in case of major regional war/s as KSA is on a impresive trajectory on every front and has the largest infrastructure boom in the entire world.

Just news from today.

https://www.financemiddleeast.com/news/saudi-arabia-targets-1-trillion-infrastructure-investment-by-2030/

I dislike the foreign policy trajectory of UAE in places like Sudan, Libya (opposite of KSA' stances - but this is irrelevant as no nation state is free from wrong policies, KSA included), their dealings with Israel etc. but we don't know the context of the question asked. We only hear the answer. Not even the current rulers of UAE would publicly support the idea of Palestinians being evicted from Gaza and the West Bank - none of which is ever going to happen mind you irrespective of Israeli or American wishes.

There is a lot of propaganda aimed at UAE/Arab governments when in reality even the likes of UAE has been one of the biggest donors to Palestine/Gaza since October 7th while in theory they could easily ignore the entire situation altogether.

They have done more "on the ground" by humanitarian aid alone than the likes of Iraq, Yemen, Algeria etc. who have no diplomatic relations with Israel.

As have wealthy European states who likewise have open relations with Israel.

For instance tiny UAE has done much more than 250 million nuclear armed Pakistan.

The likes of 150 million big Bangladesh are nowhere to be seen. Nor even my favourite Indonesia. Some 300 million people and most Muslims in the world apparently.

Mind you apparently in those 3 countries there is "democracy" (democrazy as I prefer to call it) so apparently their lack of doing anything is reflective of their people unlike the likes of Bahrain, UAE, Morocco, Egypt, Jordan and Sudan.

Shame that we hear no criticism from Palestinian champions (keyboard warriors based in the West paying taxes to the same West that actively supports Israel on every front 24/7)) while the same shameless people are cursing Arabs of the region who have nothing to do with the conflict.

Absolutely pathetic lot that nobody in the region takes seriously and who have ZERO influence and that will always remain the case.

These three countries didn’t embolden Israel and the US with signing the Abraham accords like UAE did, doing more harm, that all the money in the world can’t make up for.

 

[_Arabia_]

These three countries didn’t embolden Israel and the US with signing the Abraham accords like UAE did, doing more harm, that all the money in the world can’t make up for.

I disagree because Israeli conduct had nothing to do with the Abraham Accords as nothing has changed on the ground. It is just a continuation of their conduct since 1948. They felt humiliated after October 7th and lashed out even more rabidly than expected/is usual of them which is saying a lot.

Nothing that UAE, Morocco (particularly shameful by importing Israeli weapons while we speak - UAE never went to such lows), Sudan (civil war torn country unfortunately), Bahrain and those that signed ages ago (Egypt and Jordan) could do anything about. Israel's reaction is/was completely irrelevant to the Abraham Accords which by large are already dead and seemingly only relevant for the likes of Morocco and UAE.

The only thing that keeps Israel alive in its current format is the USA/West. Whatever 550 million Arabs and almost 2 billion Muslims do in this regard is mostly irrelevant as long as Israel enjoys US/Western monetary, political and most importantly military support and aid to the extend that Israel remains the only nuclear armed state in the region by design. It is basically and acts like it too, an colonial Western outpost in the heartland of the Arab and Muslim world - again by design.

Anyway my criticism is valid, the reaction or rather inaction of Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indonesia has been as shameful and there is no escaping from that. Those are even supposed democracies where its local people have elected their leaders. In the case of Pakistan this is only on paper as the military has controlled the country since 1947 but nevertheless. Can't say the same about the average people in those few Arab countries that have normalized.

Which of course in itself is wrong and equally shameful but just find it comical that people who live in West and pay taxes that found the genocide in Gaza (unlike local Arabs of the region) are only good at obsessing about Arabs as a whole rather than aim their focus on the culprits which are not Arabs. The only ones that are culprits among the Arabs are the regimes that have recognized Israel and have dealings with them. But so does Turkey, Azerbaijan etc. and even much closer, more strategic and for much longer but somehow we don't hear much criticism from this hypocritical lot sitting in the same West. Only usual obsession about Arabs.

Nobody takes their concern for Palestine and Palestinians (Arabs themselves) seriously really.

 

[OakTree23]

Everything wrong with that, these little halfbreeds never end up Muslim or with any faith, values or culture

I don’t know that poster but I want to slap the s-it out of any Muslim that throws around terms like “Racism” and “Liberalism.” Theres many in Pakistan too that use this term. They think their bubble of elite highly educated social circle means the rest of the world is one big kumbaya camp fire.

F those Muslims kids mixed with Christian. Far as I’m concerned they were born compromised. Enough of this turn the other g*y western crap

 

[Meengla]

Israel is already beating the drums of war, claiming the released hostages look too frail and ill treated.
Palestinian children died from starvation imposed by the Israelis and they are blaming Hamas for the condition of the hostages.

Did you notice the piece of $hit Trump bringing up the recently released hostages' appearance as 'gaunt' and that as if they came out of a 'concentration camp', which in a 'way it [Gaza]' is'. Quite conveniently appealing to the Jews and the Holocaust 'guilt' of the West and quite conveniently ignoring the tens of thousands of Palestinians dead and dismembered and Gaza is indeed a 'concentration camp' but for the Palestinians.
I have never seen Trump utter even a word of sympathy for the Palestinians except when he urges them to leave Gaza because of their sufferings there.

 

[UKBengali]

I don’t know that poster but I want to slap the s-it out of any Muslim that throws around terms like “Racism” and “Liberalism.” Theres many in Pakistan too that use this term. They think their bubble of elite highly educated social circle means the rest of the world is one big kumbaya camp fire.

F those Muslims kids mixed with Christian. Far as I’m concerned they were born compromised. Enough of this turn the other g*y western crap

Bro I know you are angry but racism is completely against the tenets of Islam.

Unless you are White, East Asian or Black then you yourself are of mixed race.

 

[Meengla]

Also Pakistan issued a strong support to Saudi Arabia. I don't think Pakistan is going to sit idle if Saudi Arabia is threatened. It is the economy which is Pakistan's Achilles Heel but otherwise..

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Saudi Arabia To Host Arab Summit On Trump's Gaza Plan

Saudi Arabia will host the leaders of four Arab countries at a summit on February 20 to discuss President Donald Trump's proposal for a US takeover of Gaza, a source with knowledge of the preparations said on Friday.

www.barrons.com

Saudi Arabia will host the leaders of four Arab countries at a summit on February 20 to discuss Donald Trump's proposal for a US takeover of Gaza, a source with knowledge of the preparations said Friday.

The leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates will attend the summit, which will take place ahead of an Arab League meeting in Cairo on February 27 on the same issue, the source said.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, another source said the president of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmud Abbas, would also attend.

Trump sparked a global outcry with his proposal for the United States to take over the Gaza Strip and to move more than two million Palestinians out of the territory, citing Egypt or Jordan as possible destinations.

 

[OakTree23]

Bro I know you are angry but racism is completely against the tenets of Islam.

Unless you are White, East Asian or Black then you yourself are of mixed race.

I’m racist! So fken what?!

Those terms don’t mean anything to me.

Let’s be all friends meanwhile the enemy has a hardon for your blood (Israeli) and women (Indians).

Just speaking facts. I truly hate everyone but Pakistanis.

 

[OakTree23]

Also Pakistan issued a strong support to Saudi Arabia. I don't think Pakistan is going to sit idle if Saudi Arabia is threatened. It is the economy which is Pakistan's Achilles Heel but otherwise..

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Saudi Arabia To Host Arab Summit On Trump's Gaza Plan

Saudi Arabia will host the leaders of four Arab countries at a summit on February 20 to discuss President Donald Trump's proposal for a US takeover of Gaza, a source with knowledge of the preparations said on Friday.

www.barrons.com

Saudi Arabia will host the leaders of four Arab countries at a summit on February 20 to discuss Donald Trump's proposal for a US takeover of Gaza, a source with knowledge of the preparations said Friday.

The leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates will attend the summit, which will take place ahead of an Arab League meeting in Cairo on February 27 on the same issue, the source said.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, another source said the president of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmud Abbas, would also attend.

Trump sparked a global outcry with his proposal for the United States to take over the Gaza Strip and to move more than two million Palestinians out of the territory, citing Egypt or Jordan as possible destinations.

Pakistan will fight for Saudi Arabia that’s a fact. They won’t fight for Kashmir though.

It shows that economic integration and support is the lever to push nations to wage wars.

On a Sidenote, I’m loving MBS opening up Saud. It means brain dead Wahhabism will limited its destruction and influence in the Islamic world specifically Pakistan.

 

[UKBengali]

I’m racist! So fken what?!

Those terms don’t mean anything to me.

Let’s be all friends meanwhile the enemy has a hardon for your blood (Israeli) and women (Indians).

Just speaking facts. I truly hate everyone but Pakistanis.

Is the last line even going to help Pakistan at all?

Without friends you will remain a poor and impoverished state.

Letting your anger loose will only make you weaker.

 

[_Arabia_]

Also Pakistan issued a strong support to Saudi Arabia. I don't think Pakistan is going to sit idle if Saudi Arabia is threatened. It is the economy which is Pakistan's Achilles Heel but otherwise..

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Saudi Arabia To Host Arab Summit On Trump's Gaza Plan

Saudi Arabia will host the leaders of four Arab countries at a summit on February 20 to discuss President Donald Trump's proposal for a US takeover of Gaza, a source with knowledge of the preparations said on Friday.

www.barrons.com

Saudi Arabia will host the leaders of four Arab countries at a summit on February 20 to discuss Donald Trump's proposal for a US takeover of Gaza, a source with knowledge of the preparations said Friday.

The leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates will attend the summit, which will take place ahead of an Arab League meeting in Cairo on February 27 on the same issue, the source said.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, another source said the president of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmud Abbas, would also attend.

Trump sparked a global outcry with his proposal for the United States to take over the Gaza Strip and to move more than two million Palestinians out of the territory, citing Egypt or Jordan as possible destinations.

But we all know that this is empty rhetoric not unlike the rhetoric of all Muslim regimes/countries currently. Nobody has the power or is even remotely strong enough to defeat USA/West/Israel in an all-out war. The only military involvement of Pakistan within the region was ironically in Jordan during the Black September to prevent the potential fall of the Hashemites in Jordan. That and limited involvement in 1991 in the largest military coalition in the world established post-WW2.

Maybe KSA is different here as the only Muslim nation due to Makkah and Madinah but even I seriously doubt if all-out war would be declared by Muslim nations/regimes in case of an Israeli/American/Western attack on say Makkah and Madinah. I have no doubt that there would be Muslim volunteers from across the globe that would make Iraq, Afghanistan etc. look like a picnic in comparison but I have zero trust in any Muslim regime doing anything of note let alone challenging the US/West. We saw that in Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. already.

Maybe in 20-50 years that will be different.

In any case as long as there are nation states (a Western concept in its current form) and said nation states are all ruled by regimes/deep states, most of them are all in it for themselves and most importantly looking for their own interests 24/7 in this jungle that we call the world. Nothing that has ever happened in the world has convinced me otherwise.

The whole NATO article 5 is also just that, a scam mostly. Nobody really believes that the US is ready to start a nuclear war with Russia in case of a Russian attack on say Estonia. I for once don't believe it. Events related to the Ukraine war confirm this as well.

Pakistan will fight for Saudi Arabia that’s a fact. They won’t fight for Kashmir though.

It shows that economic integration and support is the lever to push nations to wage wars.

On a Sidenote, I’m loving MBS opening up Saud. It means brain dead Wahhabism will limited its destruction and influence in the Islamic world specifically Pakistan.

There is no such thing as a Wahhabi sect. It was a political movement that began 300 years ago and is now no longer followed/relevant. All its teachings are based on the Quran and the Sunnah (strictly). Zero innovations of any kind. The movement was based on the Hanbali fiqh (1 of the 4 recognized Sunni madahib) which remains the official state madahib in KSA despite it being a minority madahib within KSA and despite all Muslim sects being found locally within KSA and KSA being the homeland of all of them almost with every few exceptions from Sufism to Salafism to the various Sunni and Shia branches. The only sect that is not locally found within KSA is the Ibadi sect but this on the other hand is located in next door Oman.

As for Pakistan in regards to KSA, not even you believe that Pakistan (militayr regime) would risk its existence for KSA in case of an all out war/invasion by USA/West/Israel.

Just like no country will fight India on behalf of Pakistan due to Kashmir, KSA included. So you are right about that part at least.

 

[_Arabia_]

Pakistan will fight for Saudi Arabia that’s a fact. They won’t fight for Kashmir though.

It shows that economic integration and support is the lever to push nations to wage wars.

On a Sidenote, I’m loving MBS opening up Saud. It means brain dead Wahhabism will limited its destruction and influence in the Islamic world specifically Pakistan.

There is no such thing as a Wahhabi sect. Never were. It was a political movement that began 300 years ago and is now no longer followed/relevant. All its teachings are based on the Quran and the Sunnah (strictly). Zero innovations of any kind. The movement was based on the Hanbali fiqh (1 of the 4 recognized Sunni madahib) which remains the official state madahib in KSA despite it being a minority madahib within KSA and despite all Muslim sects being found locally within KSA and KSA being the homeland of all of them almost with every few exceptions. From Sufism (which again has 100 of branches some truly cult like and some serious/Islamic) to Salafism to the various Sunni and Shia branches. The only sect that is not locally found within KSA is the Ibadi sect but this on the other hand that sect (which many mainstream shcolars consider as a Khawarij sect) is located in next door Oman.

As for Pakistan in regards to KSA, not even you believe that Pakistan (military regime) would risk its existence for KSA in case of an all out war/invasion by USA/West/Israel. Just like no country will risk a war with India for the sake of Kashmir. So you are at least right about that part here.

 

[OakTree23]

There is no such thing as a Wahhabi sect. Never were. It was a political movement that began 300 years ago and is now no longer followed/relevant. All its teachings are based on the Quran and the Sunnah (strictly). Zero innovations of any kind. The movement was based on the Hanbali fiqh (1 of the 4 recognized Sunni madahib) which remains the official state madahib in KSA despite it being a minority madahib within KSA and despite all Muslim sects being found locally within KSA and KSA being the homeland of all of them almost with every few exceptions. From Sufism (which again has 100 of branches some truly cult like and some serious/Islamic) to Salafism to the various Sunni and Shia branches. The only sect that is not locally found within KSA is the Ibadi sect but this on the other hand that sect (which many mainstream shcolars consider as a Khawarij sect) is located in next door Oman.

As for Pakistan in regards to KSA, not even you believe that Pakistan (militayr regime) would risk its existence for KSA in case of an all out war/invasion by USA/West/Israel.

Its 50/50 tbh

 

[_Arabia_]

Its 50/50 tbh

No, the pure Hanbali folllowing within KSA is limited to areas of Najd in particular Al-Qassim province with Buraydah (one of the food baskets of the country and a rural/agricultural region) being the heartland to this day. However Islamic concepts strongly emphasized by the Hanbali fiqh has a direct and indirect influence in most of KSA (irrespectie of sect) in particular strong emphasis on the Quran and ahadith (Sunnah in particular and practices of the Salaf).

Main difference:

The Hanbali school, unlike Hanafi and Maliki schools, rejected that a source of Islamic law can be a jurist's personal discretionary opinion or consensus of later generation Muslims on matters that serve the interest of Islam and community. Hanbalis hold that this is impossible and leads to abuse.​

This Wahhabi nonsense was always a slur used by certain Shias and anti-KSA/anti-Arab elements aimed at general Sunni masses.

Because the lot that were/are a part of ISIS/AQ has nothing to do with Hanbalism/Wahhabism and more to do with militant jihadism and the main source of that ideology (modern ideology moreover) is/was always Qutbism.

Qutbism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Which most scholars, Islamic as non-Islamic (secular/non-Muslim scholars of Islam/religion) also by large agree with.



Which explains the deep hatred that ISIS/AQ had/have for KSA. No other regime that they were more obsessed about during their heydays back in 2014-2016.

Anyway that whole Wahhabism (itself 1 of the 99 names of Allah (swt) - Al-Wahhab means The Bestower) has never bothered me the slighest or any Saudi Arabian that I know of only the ignorance sourrounding this poliitical movement and how it is used by some as a slur out of ignorance and as a catch all word for every bogeyman that group x or y of Muslims use for their agenda or when doing their blame game. For instance it is very popular among failed Muslim nations to blame their OWN self-inflicted problems on some mythical non-existent sect. No need to mention their origins here and their agenda. Seen it time and time again and it is as funny each single time. You as a Shia did it in this very thread as well, lol. However at least I see it very little nowadays and in say 5-10 years this idiotic rhetoric will die altogether.

And quite frankly overall Wahhabism had benefits for KSA as otherwise we would have superstitious/idiotic cults/sects that worship graves, tombs, "holy clerics" and what not stupidity that has heavily impacted large areas of the Muslim world negatively and made religion into a business for many such movements.

And I like the empahsis on the Quran, Ahadith (in particular the Sunnah and emphasis on the consensus among the Salaf rather than scholarly opinions 500-600 years after the death of Prophet Muhammad (saws), little focus on hierarchy among clerics (no holy cows like among certain other sects), clear guidelines based on Islamic tradition, zero innovations and no focus on dead people/tombs and other such innovations.

BTW, Muhammad ibn Al-Wahhab himself was a Sufi and Sufism (the traditional variant) was/is not discouraged by Hanbalis at all. As was Ahmed ibn Hanbal too BTW.