Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

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Iran would want to rebuild its corridor to Lebanon. Perhaps not now, but relatively soon enough, although probably in a more low key manner, if only to rebuild its onion layers to keep Israel at bay.

Imo that corridor isn't paying off well. Hezbollah's performance was very bad, considering the amount of time they had to prepare and the ground/air based supply routes they had from Iran to Lebanon.

It's clear they didn't see a war with Israel on the radar and didn't adequately prepare for it. Unless they're keeping their capabilities aside for a Iran -Israel war, then many hard questions need to be asked.

 

[Falcon29]

Yes, the nation is being violated from Tehran to Daraa and all the way to southern Lebanon, and Turkey, Jordan and Egypt are in the position of spectators until their turn comes in the Zionist bombing.

So there is no need for gloating, this is the reality, O nation of Muhammad.

Netanyahu wants to kill everyone, Sunnis and Shiites, but in installments, and he is crazy who thinks that he will escape alone.

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Hezbollah said they won.

They definitely didn't force Israel. They agreed to Israel's demands and Israel withdrew over time.

Every group lies for propaganda purposes, like Hamas forces hostages to kiss their captives heads.

Even Naim Qasem says Hezbollah paid a huge price. They are not going to admit "we lost".

Forced, coerced, got lucky, whatever you want to call it, Israel signed the deal and agreed to withdraw after Hezbollah fought them tooth and nail in south Lebanon for months.

You're against that for Lebanon but you want it for Syria? I thought you were an objective person. Please prove me wrong.

Hezbollah fought Israel already and lost their weapons stockpiles, leadership, communications, and are a minority within Lebanon (most of them are typical treasonous Arabs who want to make peace with Israel and suck up to the USA).

HTS terrorists did not even fight Israel as they approach Damascus. Which part of this are you not understanding?

I think we can expect Syrians to be able to defend Syria just as much as Hezbollah is able to defend Lebanon.

Verifiably false given Hezbollah actually fought Israel in an all out war and Israel ended up agreeing to withdraw from 99% of south Lebanon while Syrians do not dare to resist as Israel advances to their capital city.

No I disagree with you. You are too racist to be able to think clearly. Egypt and Iran are the two states that would fight a war waged upon them. And only two capable in my opinion.

Egypt already recognised Israel and doesn't want war in the slightest as they are too reliant on the USA. They made peace with Israel and that topic is over for them. They have a strong military in theory / on paper. Israel doesn't need to wage a war on Egypt because Egypt already submitted to them.

Who are you to tell me what Hamas believes or doesn't. We absolutely do view Jewish people as a enemy because they are and we are obligated by God to oppose them. There is no hope for them as they keep waging war on believers as revealed by God himself. You cannot coexist with such people and Hamas will teach people to be wary of Jews.

Hamas leaders have refuted these words. Zionists are the enemy and Israeli Jews are largely (90%+) psychotic racist animals but non-Israeli Jews are more moderate.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Imo that corridor isn't paying off well. Hezbollah's performance was very bad, considering the amount of time they had to prepare and the ground/air based supply routes they had from Iran to Lebanon.

It's clear they didn't see a war with Israel on the radar and didn't adequately prepare for it. Unless they're keeping their capabilities aside for a Iran -Israel war, then many hard questions need to be asked.

Israel fought hard over years to prevent weapons shipments getting into Lebanon ('war between the wars').

It is true that their performance was underwhelming. After 2006 Israel devoted massive resources to defeat Hezbollah (hence their relative lack of preparedness for war with Gaza) and it worked very well. But now Hezbollah will have to adapt. The funeral for the Sayeds showed its core constituency is still strong and fully supportive of the resistance. Israel refusing to leave 5 points in south Lebanon allows Hezbollah to justify staying in south Lebanon, just like in 2006. Israel never learns.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Yes, the nation is being violated from Tehran to Daraa and all the way to southern Lebanon, and Turkey, Jordan and Egypt are in the position of spectators until their turn comes in the Zionist bombing.

So there is no need for gloating, this is the reality, O nation of Muhammad.

Netanyahu wants to kill everyone, Sunnis and Shiites, but in installments, and he is crazy who thinks that he will escape alone.

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on this we can agree...

 

[Falcon29]

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Israel fought hard over years to prevent weapons shipments getting into Lebanon ('war between the wars').

Same with Gaza. It doesn't explain the lackluster ability to deploy offensive firepower.

Israel would bomb Sudan, sent ISIS into Sinai to destroy Hamas supply routes, would regularly bomb tunnels, and enforced a air-ground-sea blockade of Gaza.

Gaza was under 24/7 surveillance. Hamas was able to adapt after each round of fighting and organize and deploy a more effective offensive punch. Hezbollah had a lot of time and many more resources were made available to them. It points to serious incompetence amongst Hezbollah leadership and mismanagement of funds/resources. In 2006 they made better use of limited resources. That can be attributed to Imad Muginyehs leadership. It seems Hezbollah leadership post 2006 doesn't believe in the cause and is more concerned about preserving power and establishing regional cred rather than having prepared for a conflict with Israel.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Same with Gaza. It doesn't explain the lackluster ability to deploy offensive firepower.

Israel prepared for Hezbollah extensively since 2006 and invested billions to infiltrate their networks and build out their intelligence capabilities and build a massive target bank. They then spent one year systematically executing that plan to destroy all known targets (even destroying every branch of Hezbollah's civil banking service which even non-Shias in Lebanon used as it was safer than bankrupt Lebanese banks).

Vast majority of Hamas' success against Israel (c. 75% of the killed) came in the surprise attack on October 7th. Hamas did a fantastic job of planning that, keeping it a secret / misleading Israeli analysts, and executing it. But you can only do an attack like that once.

Gaza was under 24/7 surveillance. Hamas was able to adapt after each round of fighting and organize and deploy a more effective offensive punch. Hezbollah had a lot of time and many more resources were made available to them. It points to serious incompetence amongst Hezbollah leadership and mismanagement of funds/resources. In 2006 they made better use of limited resources. That can be attributed to Imad Muginyehs leadership. It seems Hezbollah leadership post 2006 doesn't believe in the cause and is more concerned about preserving power and establishing regional cred rather than having prepared for a conflict with Israel.

It's hard to compare. In 2006 Israel did not deploy as many forces into Lebanon or launch months of all out bombings or drop 80 tons of bombs on one site in Beirut to level multiple massive residential buildings at once. The closest equivalent in Gaza is Israel dropping 1-10 bombs on a 'safe' zone of tents to take out Deif or their hostage rescue mission which flattened everything in the radius to make them brave enough to run in and out quickly.

And the ground invasion was also relatively limited, only reaching the Litani river at one point (the closest point) and not progressing beyond areas where the IDF reached in 2006, whereas in Gaza the entire strip was levelled and turned into a massive guerrilla warfare zone.

Israel had one year to level south Lebanon before invading. But Hamas' attack forced Israel into Gaza quickly. Hezbollah as a larger organisation and as a minority group within Lebanon was also more heavily infiltrated vs a tight knit resistance group in Gaza which is harder to penetrate and doesn't have established logistics routes from international companies etc. Many factors to consider.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Israel admits details of embarrassing defeat at Battle of Nahal Oz IDF base

- Israeli soldiers outnumbered Palestinian fighters

- The soldiers fled & hid in the barracks

- Soldiers' fleeing was in line with Palestinians' plan to herd them into a small area

- Palestinian fighters arrived in three waves: 65 at 6:30am, 50 at 7:00am, & 100 at 10:00am

- Palestinian fighters started preparations the night before, on Oct 6.

The 13th Battalion of the elite Golani Brigade suffered 41 killed, which was more fatalities than it suffered in the Six-Day War and Yom Kippur War combined.

 

[Falcon29]

Israel prepared for Hezbollah extensively since 2006 and invested billions to infiltrate their networks and build out their intelligence capabilities and build a massive target bank. They then spent one year systematically executing that plan to destroy all known targets (even destroying every branch of Hezbollah's civil banking service which even non-Shias in Lebanon used as it was safer than bankrupt Lebanese banks).

It is the same thing. They would blow mobile devices/pagers against Palestinians too.

Vast majority of Hamas' success against Israel (c. 75% of the killed) came in the surprise attack on October 7th. Hamas did a fantastic job of planning that, keeping it a secret / misleading Israeli analysts, and executing it. But you can only do an attack like that once.

Hamas is successful in maximizing the impact of its limited resources. And with the limited strategic depth of small Gaza. That is the point. Hamas was able to deploy a better offensive capacity than Hezbollah. Which is hard to comprehend.

The point isn't to compare. The point is there needs to be a internal audit of Hezbollah's processes to figure out why Hezbollah is only able to make a minimum most impact with its large available resources.

Hamas was looking up to Hezbollah as a 'Hamas on steroids', but more importantly wanted them to behave as a 'Hamas on steroids' as part of their equation they wanted to establish in the region. This didn't materialize and it was one of the things that threw Hamas's plan off tracks.

An internal audit needs to be done. Hezbollah needs to be more available when called to battle. Because it's needed in that context. But if Hezbollah leadership wants the movement to function differently, it should communicate this clearly to Hamas. So Hamas can accurately assess what it can expect from them.

It's hard to compare. In 2006 Israel did not deploy as many forces into Lebanon or launch months of all out bombings or drop 80 tons of bombs on one site in Beirut to level multiple massive residential buildings at once. The closest equivalent in Gaza is Israel dropping 1-10 bombs on a 'safe' zone of tents to take out Deif or their hostage rescue mission which flattened everything in the radius to make them brave enough to run in and out quickly.

And the ground invasion was also relatively limited, only reaching the Litani river at one point (the closest point) and not progressing beyond areas where the IDF reached in 2006, whereas in Gaza the entire strip was levelled and turned into a massive guerrilla warfare zone.

Israel had one year to level south Lebanon before invading. But Hamas' attack forced Israel into Gaza quickly. Hezbollah as a larger organisation and as a minority group within Lebanon was also more heavily infiltrated vs a tight knit resistance group in Gaza which is harder to penetrate and doesn't have established logistics routes from international companies etc. Many factors to consider.

It was a different dynamic indeed, but you know how I feel in that I believe Hezbollah gave Israel too much room to shape the dynamics of the war, which ultimately worked more to Israel's favor. I was constantly calling on them to disrupt the equation and prevent Israel from fighting the war on their conditions.

Gaza may have not anticipated a large ground invasion but that was a miscalculation, though either way I don't think it would be possible to defend against carpet bombing. Hamas was fighting traditionally in the beginning until it went underground and reshaped it's strategy to exhaust the Israeli forces. With the resources and manpower available to the IDF, Hamas cannot contend against that so it's not a matter of doing something right or wrong. It's just the reality you have to contend with.

 

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It was a different dynamic indeed, but you know how I feel in that I believe Hezbollah gave Israel too much room to shape the dynamics of the war, which ultimately worked more to Israel's favor. I was constantly calling on them to disrupt the equation and prevent Israel from fighting the war on their conditions.

I agree with this. The problem was that Israel was better prepared and able to escalate more rapidly before Hezbollah could adapt. Hezbollah ultimately thought it could deter an all out war with Israel, but it underestimated the amount of work Israel had done since 2006 to prepare for this moment to 'blitz' Hezbollah into defeat.

The intensity of the war was frightening. The massive pagers attacks then walkie talkie attacks the next day. Combined with hundreds of airstrikes across all of Lebanon every day at a scale we never saw in 2006. These left Hezbollah reeling and unable to adapt to the new circumstances. Then the loss of Nasrallah and then Safi Al Din before he could even be announced as the new SG. Everything went wrong all at once, just as Israel planned. Around October I thought Hezbollah started to regroup and adapt to the war better, but it was clear they were not prepared for the level of losses and therefore not able to utilise their equipment or plans.

Can't fire ballistic missiles when 90% of them are destroyed already and the commanders in charge of firing them have all been assassinated. Can't launch raids into north Israel when Israel spent a year flattening all of south Lebanon and killing the entire leadership of the Radwan forces from top to bottom. Can't plan a major strike when Israel has infiltrated the communications systems and can take out the rocket launchers before they can be used.

Just a total shit show. Until these deeper issues can be resolved it would be stupid for Hezbollah to attack Israel (even the forces still in 5 points of south Lebanon).

 

[Falcon29]

Israel is constantly applying pressure on the people of the region through violence. The people of the region need to counter Israel's military superiority. If 200+ Israelis were killed in rocket/air strikes on a daily basis, the Israeli's will break and won't be able to endure the extreme stress, then the tables will flip and momentum will be with the people of the region.

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