Turkish Foreign Policy and Regional Geopolitics

Turkey should get rid of its refugees, now that peace has returned in Syria (well,relatively),and than serious accession discussions should be held.
 
Claudius said:
Turkey should get rid of its refugees, now that peace has returned in Syria (well,relatively),and than serious accession discussions should be held.
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Dude, you mean well. But our government cannot cope with EU controls and restrictions. Dozens of hospitals, highways, bridges, airports, etc. have been tendered to businessmen close to the government with the build-operate-transfer model at prices far in excess of their value. Turkey's procurement system cannot comply with EU principles of transparency. The Turkish government will never accept this. In short, under Erdogan we are unlikely to join the EU.
 
Claudius said:
Turkey should get rid of its refugees, now that peace has returned in Syria (well,relatively),and than serious accession discussions should be held.
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Turkey's EU application has been stuck since Greek Cyprus was allowed entry despite the initial stipulation placed where they had to accept the Annan plan. Greece threatened to block the entire enlaegement for everyone if Cyprus was not allowed to join and in the end they allowed Cyprus in, b/c they didn't want to stop enlargement in Eastern Europe. When Cyprus got in, it along with Greece tried to leverage its EU membership to essentially kill all cooperation and integration of Turkey into the EU.

Thats the main reason why Turkey cannot enter the EU. I don't see Turkey joining the EU fronkly, at this juncture, despite the rhetoric of Turkey still being interested(atleast on paper), Turkey doesn't really see the EU as the end all be all, and with the changing geopolitical circumstances, the EU itself may become irrelevant in the grand schemes of things. With the Rise of China and Asia, the EU's relevance is shrinking

A lot of what have been the status quo in europe is unraveling, If the US does leave Europe, i think there is a significant possibility that Russia/Putin will attempt to take the baltic states, to expand their baltic coastline, and to have a land bridge/connection to Kaliningrad. Similarly to what they did in Ukraine.

If that happens, I suspect the EU project in Europe will essentially be dead, and Eastern European states which already diverge from Western Eu states that dominate Europe, they may start pursuing other matters..
 
hyperman said:
When Cyprus got in, it along with Greece tried to leverage its EU membership to essentially kill all cooperation and integration of Turkey into the EU.
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That's wrong. It had been the policy of Greek governments for more than 20 years,to support Turkey's membership in the European Union. They even promoted it as something would help us resolve a lot of problems.
 
Foinikas said:
That's wrong. It had been the policy of Greek governments for more than 20 years,to support Turkey's membership in the European Union. They even promoted it as something would help us resolve a lot of problems.
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Yes under Pasok, and to be fair to Greece, Southern Cyprus is a lot more aggressive than Greece.

But Greece is literally blocking so many elements currently. The policies of Pasok from the 2000s is not what is currently in effect. Post Tsipras the govt in Greece has been blocking at every step.

Turkey has been waiting for the Customs Union update and the Visa streamlining that was promised in exchange for the Refugee/Migrant for the last decade and a half.
 
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Türkiye supports stability in South Caucasus: Armenian PM Pashinyan - Türkiye Today

'Diplomatic representatives of Armenia and Türkiye are in constant direct contact,' says Nikol Pashinyan
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Wow.
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I wouldn't look too deep into it, he has said something similar before, its more along the lines of the Govt doesn't have it on its foreign policy agenda, essentially they are not going to try to weaponize the issue in foreign policy against Turkey. The Diaspora though is another issue, but the govt itself with stay out of spats.

He wants to get the border opened for Trade, so he doesn't want to unnecessarily try to pick fights. He has learned from past mistakes with regards to needlessly involving himself in Drama with Turkey for Domestic rabble rousing.

I'd say things are progressing positively with Turkey Armenia reconciliation efforts, there is positive news on the peace treaty matter with Azerbaijan, which have been probably the biggest impediment to Normalization.

He should ratify the Zurich Protocols, its a good basis for fixing Armenia Turkey relations.

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Zurich Protocols - Wikipedia

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This is interesting as the French didn't invite Turkey to the Summit, UK did invite but thats expected. But the Fact that Germany is inviting is significant. Coupled this with Poland and Tusk's visit and endorsement of closer integration of Turkey in European Defense architecture is significant.

Essentially all the other "neutral" states in the EU are not coming to align with Turkey's friends in the EU(Italy, Spain, etc)

I think at this point the only potential objections and spoilers are the Greeks, South Cyprus and the French.
 
hyperman said:
I think at this point the only potential objections and spoilers are the Greeks, South Cyprus and the French.
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Yes,for some weird reason some of our northern European friends,think Turkey should be sold weapons systems so they can copy them and become even more competitive,as well as having Turkey as a weapons dealer for the EU,when they themselves say we must support EU defence industries. Weird Anglosaxons.
 
Turkey should start supplying weapons and sending in the Turkish Special Forces into Syria to fight the Israelis

Ottoman Troops in Gaza fought so hard in Gaza against the British and actually almost defeated them

the British absolutely levelled Gaza in 1916 totally destroyed it, but the Ottoman remained and never withdrew

but I understand what the Arab bedouin done to those poor Ottoman Soldiers on the trains on the Hijaz railway was beyond evil and sadistic and why Turks don't want to help

in one encounter they cut the soldiers up inside the train carriage and left them there to rot it was a massacre

the evil sand Arabs did this for the white man, but the Palestinians were actually feeding the Ottoman Army they did not turn their back on the Ottomans

when Christopher Columbus reached New World he said we have enough Gold to launch another Crusade, in a letter a few decades later Kings of Europe said how can we take Jerusalem when the Ottomans Soldiers are knocking on our castle doors in Europe

Ottomans were a great part of islamic history and I am sure I am not the only one to miss them
 
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This is interesting as the French didn't invite Turkey to the Summit, UK did invite but thats expected. But the Fact that Germany is inviting is significant. Coupled this with Poland and Tusk's visit and endorsement of closer integration of Turkey in European Defense architecture is significant.

Essentially all the other "neutral" states in the EU are not coming to align with Turkey's friends in the EU(Italy, Spain, etc)

I think at this point the only potential objections and spoilers are the Greeks, South Cyprus and the French.
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The French won't block Turkiye's participation in any project if the rest of the EU supports us firmly.

The Greeks on the other hand will hide behind the Southern Cypriot regime but I believe that Eastern European pressure could lead to a positive outcome at the end of the day.
 
Foinikas said:
Yes,for some weird reason some of our northern European friends,think Turkey should be sold weapons systems so they can copy them and become even more competitive,as well as having Turkey as a weapons dealer for the EU,when they themselves say we must support EU defence industries. Weird Anglosaxons.
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Umm.. Turkey isn't copying weapons being sold by Europe. lol

Those are indigenous designs, not reverse engineered..

And Turkey isn't buying weapons from Allies as much as codeveloping them, in the case of Spain and Italy.
 
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