Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[Falcon29]

Israeli Nazi terrorism needs to be subdued. It can be subdued. The tools are available. The willpower is missing.

Israel is trying to shrink Gaza and push Palestinians into the sea then drive them south to Egypt's border.

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[Falcon29]

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[_Arabia_]

@Falcon29

Very unfortunate what is occurring with the open and tacit support of the US/West/NATO and the carte blanche that the Zionist demons enjoy. It is really staggering how they have been able to take control of not only the US but the entire West.

I honestly, as already discussed in length earlier, don't see what there can be of any realistic solutions to stop the criminal Zionist onslaught (in the West Bank as well) as long as the Zionist have the US as their watch dog. This basically removes the military option (at least as of now). Would it have been different if there was Arab and Muslim unity (politically as in leaderships genuinely joining hands for the sake of Palestine and not their own geopolitical interests)? Maybe but even if so, no match for the combined military strength of the US/West/NATO. I could delude myself to believe the opposite but that would be dishonest.

So what exactly is a realistic solution? For me the solution does not lie in the region but in the US.

If you remove the blind US support for Israel, the European/Western support would follow suit? Now who would be left to support and protect Israel 24/7 afterwards? Not sure if any strong entity would/could do that.

What is your views on this most important question? What is the solution from your view? What are the Palestinians within your family and social circle saying in this regard?

I don't follow internal Israeli politics, Palestinians are naturally doing that the most of all Arabs, but is there even a remote hope of "moderates" within Israel gaining power and changing their policies? Are there even any Israeli voices left that want/support a two-state solution? Or is it just cheap propaganda to make themselves appear as "moderate" to the West when this is not the case?

My impression is that the Israeli society (as a whole) is beyond repair (it was prior to October 7th) and now it has become much worse.

 

[Falcon29]

Palestinians won't leave nor surrender, the Jewish terrorists better get that through their thick skulls.

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[Flotilla]

We (vast majority of educated Arabs) consider both you (Iranian regime and Iranian regime supporters) and Zionists as the same thing.

Fortunately shias can feel safe with you...

 

[Flotilla]

So - basically they killed a whole bunch of civilian bureaucrats and administrators - right? Alongside hundreds of civilian women and children....

It is an ancestor technique employed by romans as "decimate", in the battlefield they took each 10 men one and kill him in front of the rest of the "milites" of the legion.
Israel simply and plainly wants to decimate slowly population, via different techniques; starving, carpet bombing and medical issues because the lack of elemental health system.
They´re killing thousands in differents ways. It is national psychopaty.

 

[Falcon29]

@Falcon29

Very unfortunate what is occurring with the open and tacit support of the US/West/NATO and the carte blanche that the Zionist demons enjoy. It is really staggering how they have been able to take control of not only the US but the entire West.

I honestly, as already discussed in length earlier, don't see what there can be of any realistic solutions to stop the criminal Zionist onslaught (in the West Bank as well) as long as the Zionist have the US as their watch dog. This basically removes the military option (at least as of now). Would it have been different if there was Arab and Muslim unity (politically as in leaderships genuinely joining hands for the sake of Palestine and not their own geopolitical interests)? Maybe but even if so, no match for the combined military strength of the US/West/NATO. I could delude myself to believe the opposite but that would be dishonest.

So what exactly is a realistic solution? For me the solution does not lie in the region but in the US.

If you remove the blind US support for Israel, the European/Western support would follow suit? Now who would be left to support and protect Israel 24/7 afterwards? Not sure if any strong entity would/could do that.

What is your views on this most important question? What is the solution from your view? What are the Palestinians within your family and social circle saying in this regard?

I don't follow internal Israeli politics, Palestinians are naturally doing that the most of all Arabs, but is there even a remote hope of "moderates" within Israel gaining power and changing their policies? Are there even any Israeli voices left that want/support a two-state solution? Or is it just cheap propaganda to make themselves appear as "moderate" to the West when this is not the case?

My impression is that the Israeli society (as a whole) is beyond repair (it was prior to October 7th) and now it has become much worse.

Jewish people need to be thrown out the middle east. We shouldn't as Arabs have to put up with the burden of having these demented people in the heart of the middle east. That's the solution.

The situation in Gaza was resolved with the ceasefire. That is still the solution for Gaza. Israel broke it. They're not going to change the terms of the ceasefire this way. They will unneedingly get many more innocent Palestinians killed, which they enjoy due to their demented bloodlust. They won't get anything on the table. Hamas is not leaving Gaza and we won't allow Palestinians from outside Gaza to rule Gaza. If they have no roots in Gaza. We'll allow locals or technocrat rule. Israel won't allow for any self governance because it uses violence to enforce that. It literally kills and starves people to derail Palestinain self governance.

The Jewish people need to get shook. Either through organized or disorganized violent means. That's the immediate solution.

 

[_Arabia_]

Fortunately shias can feel safe with you...

Of course they can, last time I checked Arab Shias are native to the Arab world (not Iran) and last time I checked most Arab Shias (99.99% of all of them) are loyal citizens to their Arab countries, in KSA included. Why is it with you Iranian regime bots (you are not from Spain either as you already admitted yourself), that you try to make a patent out of Shia Islam when you have nothing to do with it? Iran only became majority Shia during the Safavids (read the bloody history of this)

Safavid conversion of Iran to Shia Islam - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

and it was mostly thanks (ironically) to Arab Shia scholars from modern-day Eastern province in KSA (called historical Bahrain - region - not the country which is part of this historical region), Iraq and Southern Lebanon. Which is why most of the Sayyids in Iran are recent (fairly recent 500-400 years) Arab arrivals.

What is your Iranian regime supporters obsession with sects and making everything about Sunni and Shia? All while having ZERO clues about the Arab world and Arab Shias. It is tragicomical.

Now, answer my question, why should Arabs and in particular Syrians, support or like your regime or look at you guys any different from the Zionists? You are both attacking/hating Arabs and the Arab world and trying to weaken it. Arabs did not wake up one day and started disliking your regime for the sake of it. If you had kept to yourself and not meddled in the Arab world after 1979, nobody would be caring/bothering about your regime.

Anyway this thread is about Palestine/Zionist crimes so you lot should stop with your constant obsession about 550 million Arabs, sects, Sunnis, Shias and what not. It is getting very tiring. In particular as almost all Arabs, don't care about this at all. I don't view Arabs based on sects and for instance, even though I am not a Christian, for me an Christian Arab Palestinian is as dear to me as an Muslim or even Atheist. It is not about sect here. Get it into your head.

 

[Falcon29]

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[Flotilla]

(you are not from Spain either as you already admitted yourself)

Human after all.
And you, because you´re human should be attacking Israel not spaniards, persians and another "minorities".

 

[Unknowntruth]

I don't know why people here are resorting to history. No use. When this conflict started in October 2023, some brought up the so-called 'Arab' betrayal of the Ottoman Empire a century ago to justify the current Turkish inaction in the conflict, to which @Unknowntruth gave a very good response: The Ottomans were going to fall anyway.

So talk about the current situation, please!

But it is the stupidity of the general public and the lack of political understanding of the various players involved in the current conflict which grates me the most! With all the info at their finger tips, we have the stupid Trump Selfies Imams, the stupid people who couldn't differentiate between Biden and his more pro Palestinian political base, the stupid Pakistanis rooting for Trump because he would, presumably, free their beloved stupid Imran Khan, the stupid 'Latinos for Trump' who are crying now when their kins are being deported, the stupid 'African Americans for Trump' who are losing the privileges of DEI, the stupid Europeans who are still stuck in the Cold War era when the American Neo Cons keep destroying their region, thus sending waves of refugees to Europe and increasing their energy costs...

Most people can't see beyond their nose!

First Muslim country to recognize Israel was Turkey just 1 year later later in 1949 after declaring for independence in 1948.

 

[Falcon29]

Like I said. The captives never provided leverage of any sort. Israeli's just masturbate to the idea of exterminating the Palestinian people. Execute these Jew terrorist Nazis and declare them all dead in the strikes.

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Israeli Defense Minister: If Hamas does not release all the kidnapped soldiers immediately, we will confront it by land, sea, and air until it is destroyed.

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[_Arabia_]

Human after all.
And you, because you´re human should be attacking Israel not spaniards, persians and another "minorities".

Do you have problems with basic English? No offence but it appears to be the case. My English is not perfect or fluent either but at least I am not writing replies that make zero sense.

First of all, I have never attacked any "Persians". I have attacked/argued against (with facts and facts alone) the Iranian regime's role in the Arab world since 1979. Stop trying to equate a 46 year old regime with entire nations or peoples. On the other hand your Iranian friends here are constantly attacking Arabs 24/7 on this forum and obsessing about us.

Now, once again, try to stop obsessing about sects and commenting on matters that you have zero clue about (realities of the Arab world and Arab Shias) if you want to be taken seriously. Other than one-liners I am yet to see you even countering any of my prior arguments. If you want a serious discussion you should tag me in the Arabic Coffee Shop thread and we can have a discussion based on facts and facts alone.

As for your flags, origin or what not, I honestly don't care but I find it very suspect and strange that we have a bunch of Spaniards, Brazilians, Zimbabweans, people with North Korean flags etc. who are all pushing Iranian regime propaganda and have the exact same talking points. Clearly there is more to the story than this and what is obvious is that you are all Iranian regime supporters.

 

[Falcon29]

Get rid of the terrorist captive soldiers. The Israeli's will then have to say something else. Like 'Hamas must surrender now or else', or 'The people of Gaza must head to Egypt now'.

Force them into a awkward position. Because there's many naive people that really buy it. But also governments are more afraid to condemn Israel as Israel and Jewish lobby in US will gaslight them and punish them if they say anything now. They'll be more encouraged when 'hostage' envelope is closed and thrown away for good.

 

[Falcon29]

Israel: We're gonna go back to war in Gaza and hit them so hard like they never imagined, they'll be utterly destroyed

Israel: The people of Gaza will soon suffer tremendously and suffer great losses if Hamas doesn't surrender

Israel attacks Gaza in a vicious manner murdering 500 Palestinians in one day.

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Israeli's : Don't believe that the numbers are fake it's not like we haven't been threatening to annihilate them everyday for the past month