Breaking: Boeing wins the US Air Force Next Generation Air Dominance fighter contract

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The reality you now face is NGAD will be more advanced than anything China can put in the air.

There is no way to know this without mor details, we know nothing about either program. lol
 
Huh,

Al I said it well take years to build, test, and deploy.

You’re correct it takes years, which is why they began flight testing of near production ready F-47 prototypes in 2019/2020.

The USAF Chief confirmed that final production F-47s will achieve flight before Trump leaves office.
 
There is no way to know this without mor details, we know nothing about either program. lol

These are USAF estimates. That was confirmed by former Sec Kendall and recently by the Commander of US Pacific Air Forces.
 
These are USAF estimates. That was confirmed by former Sec Kendall and recently by the Commander of US Pacific Air Forces.

Well of course they are going to say that, every military says their stuff is the best, but thats not a basis for determining things. we will need more details before more reasonable assessments can be made. For example, when the J-20 came out, we were able to observe the engine matter that was a weakness for China, or the Su-57 we were able to see things that would be weaknesses. We know nothing of the F-47 or the J-36 and J-50.

There are no specs and no details for the current assessments to be made.
 
The wumao hate in here is delicious. Their panic tells me they were hoping the pause by USAF was permanent and now they find out it has been flying for 5 years and is a mach 2+ fighter which the the J-36 isn't.


LM is going to be busy for decades with F-35 and NG with B-21 so I'm glad Boeing got their sht together and was able to pull this off. So the haters know Boeing won but they can also ask LM and NG folks for assistance.
It is actually quite refreshing when China is more open and US is more secretive. I can't believe this actually happened in my lifetime!
 
The NGAD award will reverberate in the defense industry beyond the crewed aircraft market. The aircraft is expected to feature the winner of the Next Generation Adaptive Propulsion program—either GE Aerospace’s XA102 or Pratt & Whitney’s XA103. Both feature a new, three-stream architecture that increases bypass flow in cruise mode to reduce fuel consumption by more than 20%. The capabilities of the NGAD also will influence requirements for the Air Force’s proposed family of Collaborative Combat Aircraft, which are expected to operate alongside NGAD aircraft on some missions, expanding options for sensors and weapons.

 
It is actually quite refreshing when China is more open and US is more secretive. I can't believe this actually happened in my lifetime!
Agreed.
 
It is actually quite refreshing when China is more open and US is more secretive. I can't believe this actually happened in my lifetime!

The US military has always been secretive🤣
 
The NGAD award will reverberate in the defense industry beyond the crewed aircraft market. The aircraft is expected to feature the winner of the Next Generation Adaptive Propulsion program—either GE Aerospace’s XA102 or Pratt & Whitney’s XA103. Both feature a new, three-stream architecture that increases bypass flow in cruise mode to reduce fuel consumption by more than 20%. The capabilities of the NGAD also will influence requirements for the Air Force’s proposed family of Collaborative Combat Aircraft, which are expected to operate alongside NGAD aircraft on some missions, expanding options for sensors and weapons.


Important to note that CCA YF-42 and YF-44 begin flight testing this summer
 
May be I am completely wrong but I do see a hint of Greyghost in it...

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Fanboys are fanboys but canards DO add additional surfaces to manage RCS on. It is possible these are LERX much like Su-57.
That is assuming that Canard is made of same stuff as rest of the plane...
 
There is no way to know this without mor details, we know nothing about either program. lol
Yes we do know it's called history. Reason why US takes forever to deploy a stealth fighter is because they cram as much high tech as possible giving it capabilities unmatched.

F-35 in block 3F is more capable than any fighter out there and it's not even close. PLAAF is not know for high tech capabilities for their fighters and it is not going to be any different with their J-36. US invented the kill web while chyna is barely in its infancy in kill chain capability.
 
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