Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

[Tijani]

I don't know why salafi zionist erdogan lovers & Bani Ummayad [the filthy murderers of Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) family] lovers don't get banned from this thread

Come on bro! You know we'd be bored out of our minds if it was only the usual suspects around. We need to be disturb out of our comfort zones. Please don't mess with my entertainment

 

[Shags101]

Come on bro! You know we'd be bored out of our minds if it was only the usual suspects around. We need to be disturb out of our comfort zones. Please don't mess with my entertainment

Yeah I agree lol i like a little back and forth otherwise it’s people just praising each other’s side when each side is flawed in many ways…….

 

[Tijani]

Intending or not he and his inner circle saw their grip on power coming to an end during the Arab spring decided it’s better to deal brutally with protesters than listen to their grievances. I say this again I actually had high hopes for Assad I thought he really wasn’t interested in holding on to power I thought he would pass the baton to a better unified Syria and during the Arab spring he could have peacefully transitioned to a united Syria but he decided to go the other way. The only reason there wasn’t more mass killings was Iran Russia and Hezbollah basically took over leadership and military roles in fighting and Syrian forces were brought back to stay in major cities like Damascus to guard and keep their butts away from the front lines

Unfortunately Assad and the elites of Syria disappointed. I know for a fact that both Iran and Russia counseled him to bring the legitimate opposition into the fold to find a powersharing consensus but he was unwilling, unable, to forgo his personal, family's and the entitled elites, vested interest.

With said though I do not believe that certain foreign parties involved in the fighting in Syria would have accepted a compromise. I remember the fighters from Stans refusing any compromise and I can understand why, having left their home countries for promises of new lands and influence. Anyways this is now the new reality as @mulj has stated. Let's see how long this new reality will last. I personally give it a year or two at the most. I believe that the foreign elements influence in this new reality will eventually create a blowback that will destabilise the whole country.

 

[Mehdipersian]

Turkiye plays different game all along, tech parity then action, they know first handed what might they would face, that kind of clarity and insight i am afraid lacks in reasoning of other open or covert zionist enemies and their western proxies. They play game with badly given cards and turks are just trying to avoid that. It is simple as a concept but humongous and difficult challenge to transfer it into concrete reality.

You have a strange hope for Turkey. Turkey is a member of NATO and a racist secular country and has no interest in Islam and Muslims.

All this claim of Erdogan is for show in the media that they will gain more influence among Muslims and benefit from it.

Atatürk destroyed the Ottoman government and culture well.

 

[mulj]

You have a strange hope for Turkey. Turkey is a member of NATO and a racist secular country and has no interest in Islam and Muslims.

All this claim of Erdogan is for show in the media that they will gain more influence among Muslims and benefit from it.

Atatürk destroyed the Ottoman government and culture well.

Maybe, i like to think that they play political taqya and for that i could lay out some strong arguments.
On the other hand i agree with you that large chunk of their social fabric is destroyed beyond repair.

 

[Shags101]

The only way for Iran is a far-right, ultranationalist government. Iran needs a government that takes protecting the lives of Iranian people and Iranian land seriously and does not concern itself with Imams who got whacked in the desert 1,400 years ago.

Well I’m not going that far about the imams I do agree we all need to worry about the present and not the past ultranationalists tend to take power and not care what the people think of their rule the only rights people have are the rights they say can have. I think strong intellectual leaders who can balance the needs of their people versus the needs of themselves is better. I definitely think Iran should go nuclear and negotiate while as a nuclear power saying if Iran can’t have it no one else can

 

[BigMela2onin]

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Iran's leaders asleep at the wheel while the noose slowly tightens.

 

[KHORSHIDSIYAH1488]

Well I’m not going that far about the imams I do agree we all need to worry about the present and not the past ultranationalists tend to take power and not care what the people think of their rule the only rights people have are the rights they say can have. I think strong intellectual leaders who can balance the needs of their people versus the needs of themselves is better. I definitely think Iran should go nuclear and negotiate while as a nuclear power saying if Iran can’t have it no one else can

I'm sorry I have to disagree with 90% of the forum here. Islamic governments play too nice. They're stuck in the 8th century talking about valor, gallantry, bravery and martyrdom. "Rules of ethical war".

War is tabiyate heyvani-e TAMAM AYAAR. To the extend we talk of war's rules, Geneva and human rights, we are only doing so for PR and/or to punish the losers. History is written by the victors.

I suggest you read "You Gentiles" by Maurice Samuel and look up Rabbi Manis Friedman's quotes on war. Jews believe non-Jews think of life as a game, a sport, and come up with little hyprocritical niceties about things like business and war. Jews are dead serious- this is why war to them includes executing entire populations, taking out hospitals, engaging in mass murder, systematic rape, gassing, torture. If the goal of war is to dominate, subdue an enemy, and eliminate a threat as quickly and decisively as possible, they believe it's more humane to do it this way, guaranteeing surrender. And they're right, as hal-beham zan as it is to say. There's nothing moral about war. It's supposed to be immoral. It's death, killing, destruction, cessation of life for worldly gain. Talk of morality in regards to war is pure ivory tower asininity.

Iran needs to take the gloves off in its first war after the Islamic Republic, or we will continue our centuries long losing streak until what remains of us is a tiny sliver of land in the middle of the mountains inhabited by Arabic speaking weak pacifists.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Because it’s an open forum to discuss things not to spout racist comments like what you have stated

yes, that post using religious/sectarian rhetoric has been deleted

differing views are allowed as long as they are respectful and not insulting or trolling

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Iran's leaders asleep at the wheel while the noose slowly tightens.

why does Azerbaijan need to join these accords? it already recognises Israel

 

[KHORSHIDSIYAH1488]

yes, that post using religious/sectarian rhetoric has been deleted

differing views are allowed as long as they are respectful and not insulting or trolling

Good sir, it was not meant to be sectarian.

I personally think the Islamic Republic has run its course and there are good reasons for this, because religious mindset is not suitable for politics.

 

[KHORSHIDSIYAH1488]

why does Azerbaijan need to join these accords? it already recognises Israel

Because this is about an anti-Iran coalition and paving the way for Azerbaijani irredentism. It's a war coalition. In addition to bombing and leadership decapitation, there's the expectation that the Iranian military will be bled out fighting on multiple fronts, Baku front being one.

 

[Persian Gulf]

This is what I project:

- The Islamic Republic will fall after a series of assassinations, internal sabotage from CIA-Mossad moles in the Sepah and leadership, and a combined aerial attack that dismantles Iran's air defense, nuclear facilities and missile program. Iran will vainly attempt to fight back and a nuke will be dropped on one of Iran's unimportant cities. In this time, Azerbaijan, Turkiye and the Kurds will make military moves and push back Iranian forces, holding significant parts of territory. Many Iranian soldiers- to the surprise of most Iranians- will drop their weapons and surrender, seeing it futile to go up against such a coalition, and having a weak sense of national identity.

- Reza Pahlavi will return, in exchange for investment in Iran and peace, he will offer multiple northern provinces to Aliyev, give the Kurds autonomy like the KRG, allow the establishment of U.S. bases in Ahvaz and make it an autonomous region. He will also make Balochistan an autonomous region and give some land to Turkmenistan as well. Iran will be turned into a limp-wristed constitutional monarchy and federation, losing or losing central control over 1/4 of its territory.

- Iranians in the diaspora will engage in all sorts of mental theatrics to justify the loss of territorial integrity. In a few decades, Iranians will look back at the Islamic Republic with nostalgia, dreaming of a time when Iran was strong, whole, and assertive.

- In time, the KRG will secede as will Rojhelat and Rojava, and create a Kurdish state. Balochistan will probably secede in a few decades.

- The Pahlavid rump state will exist, adopt the golden straightjacket, Westernize, but be very poor, not allowed to sell oil on its own terms, constantly being threatened with Ahwazi secession if it asserts its authority.

- Hundreds of thousands of Iranians, possibly up to one million, will suffer the effects of radiation. If the war is quick, casualties may be around 100,000.

- People like @Mr Iran Eye will keep in denial until the very end.

counterpoint: IRGC is far more ideologically driven than Artesh and will not quickly fold. a significant portion of the 1-10 million army of Basijis can also be counted on to fight to the end.

even monarchists do not support separatism. their psychotic supporters often fight with separatists in the west.

Turkish-Kurdish combined offensive on Iran is pretty funny idea

 

[Persian Gulf]

Good sir, it was not meant to be sectarian.

I was not talking about your post

I think you know your main propensity to get into trouble ... I hope you post with that in mind so we don't have to lose you

 

[KHORSHIDSIYAH1488]

counterpoint: IRGC is far more ideologically driven than Artesh and will not quickly fold. a significant portion of the 1-10 million army of Basijis can also be counted on to fight to the end.

even monarchists do not support separatism. their psychotic supporters often fight with separatists in the west.

Turkish-Kurdish combined offensive on Iran is pretty funny idea

If anything is a historical lesson it's that monarchists are braindead. Do not dismiss this brother.

At least the Qajars FOUGHT and lost land. The Pahlavis gave up land upon request. Over and over again. They are completely and utterly beholden to Jews. Have you seen the Shahis in the West? If they're not Jews (most are), they are absolute idiots that can engage in mental gymnastics to justify why Iran should lose 1/3 of its population. These are the same people who said "please Bush, nuke Iran!" so they can go back.