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The waqf is a requirement for Muslims, its how we administer our properties and lands, the waqf is a necessity and it has nothing to do with anyone else

Will their be some outliers or disputes, of course, that will always be the case with large organizations and land, but this is a issue for Indian Muslims

And daily life for Indian Muslims is their way of life, faith, culture under attack and they are rightly becoming agitated against a hindutva extremist enemy targeting them using the state


They are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS and they hardly have any representation in the state or government,


This is why I tell you partition is INEVITABLE, because the agitation and targeting is too much

If Waqf is a requirement, then should any religious group be allowed to bypass the legal and judicial system? Would you also support similar rights for Hindus in Pakistan?

They follow the process, but what if tomorrow morning they come to your house, issue a notice to vacate within 30 days, claiming it as their property—would you accept it?

Or would you demand that they follow the proper legal process and submit the proof of ownership, just as everyone else is required to?

Don't be too blind in the name of religion.
 
Are you sure donated by muslims?

just read about is - how they work

In Tamil Nadu, Waqf board claims ownership of an entire village. There’s a temple too
Thiruchenthurai is a village located on the Cauvery river's bank in Tiruchirapalli district. It also has a 1,500-year-old Sundareswarar Temple with villagers now wondering how the Waqf would claim ownership of this property as well.


Waqf Board claims ownership of entire village in Bihar: 'Vacate it in 30 days'

The Bihar Waqf Board has sent notices to seven villagers in Govindpur, a village where 95% of the residents are Hindus, demanding that they vacate the land within 30 days.
Do not try to logic with him. ignore.
 
If Waqf is a requirement, then should any religious group be allowed to bypass the legal and judicial system? Would you also support similar rights for Hindus in Pakistan?

They follow the process, but what if tomorrow morning they come to your house, issue a notice to vacate within 30 days, claiming it as their property—would you accept it?

Or would you demand that they follow the proper legal process and submit the proof of ownership, just as everyone else is required to?

Don't be too blind in the name of religion.

What are you talking about???? Their is always national laws to follow

The waqf is required to administer Muslim property and lands, if their is dispute then a court case can be opened and both parties can submit evidence etc to resolve the issue

But why the hell is the hindutva state wading into Indian Muslim issues constantly
 
What are you talking about???? Their is always national laws to follow

The waqf is required to administer Muslim property and lands, if their is dispute then a court case can be opened and both parties can submit evidence etc to resolve the issue

But why the hell is the hindutva state wading into Indian Muslim issues constantly
Again, I am saying, You don't know about how it works in India.

If you don't know, supporting blindly is not a smart choice.
 
Again, I am saying, You don't know about how it works in India.

If you don't know, supporting blindly is not a smart choice.

I know exactly how it works in India, I know exactly why they are trying to target Indian Muslims and why Indian Muslims are becoming so dispondent, angry and agitated
 
The waqf is a requirement for Muslims, its how we administer our properties and lands, the waqf is a necessity and it has nothing to do with anyone else

Will their be some outliers or disputes, of course, that will always be the case with large organizations and land, but this is a issue for Indian Muslims

And daily life for Indian Muslims is their way of life, faith, culture under attack and they are rightly becoming agitated against a hindutva extremist enemy targeting them using the state


They are HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS and they hardly have any representation in the state or government,


This is why I tell you partition is INEVITABLE, because the agitation and targeting is too much

So what about it? The waqf system continues to exist, it hasn't been abolished. The bill only seeks to reform certain aspects of governance and dispute resolution, which have long been plagued by opacity and misuse. Tweaking the legal framework to bring more accountability and transparency is not an attack on faith, it's just good governance.
 
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Indian parliament's lower house passes controversial bill on Muslim properties​

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Neyaz Farooquee
BBC News, Delhi
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The government claims the bill brings transparency but critics see it as an infringement on the rights of Muslims
The lower house of India's parliament has passed a controversial bill that seeks to change how properties worth billions of dollars donated by Indian Muslims over centuries are governed.

The Waqf (Amendment) Bill, 2024 - which brings in dozens of amendments to an existing law - was passed late on Wednesday night after a heated debate that went on for over 12 hours.

The government says the bill will introduce transparency into the management of waqf, as the properties are called.

But opposition parties and Muslim groups have called it an attempt to weaken the constitutional rights of India's largest religious minority.
In the Lok Sabha, as the lower house is called, the bill was passed with 288 MPs voting in favour of it, and 232 against (the halfway mark is 272).

It has now been sent to the Rajya Sabha, or upper house, for discussion and passage.

If it is passed by the Rajya Sabha, it will be sent to President Droupadi Murmu for her assent before it becomes law.

The bill was first tabled in parliament in August last year but was sent to a joint parliamentary committee (JPC) after an outcry from opposition members. The version that has been passed incorporates several changes suggested by the sharply divided committee. Opposition members who were on the panel have alleged that the JPC accepted the changes suggested by the BJP and its allies while rejecting all amendments they proposed.

Mallikarjun Kharge, Congress MP and leader of the opposition in the Rajya Sabha, said the opposition was united and would work to defeat "the unconstitutional and divisive agenda of the Modi government on the Waqf Amendment Bill". But the numbers may not be in the opposition's favour.

Muslim groups have argued that the bill "aims to weaken the waqf laws and pave the way for the seizure and destruction of waqf properties".

Speaking in the Lok Sabha, Congress leader Gaurav Gogoi said the bill would "dilute the Constitution, defame minority communities, divide Indian society and disenfranchise minorities".

Federal Home Minister Amit Shah defended the bill, saying that the opposition was scaring minorities by creating "an illusion that this bill would interfere in the religious activities of Muslim brothers and in their donated property".

What is the bill about?​

The waqf properties, which include mosques, madrassas, shelter homes and thousands of acres of land donated by Muslims, are managed by boards. Some of these properties are vacant while others have been encroached upon.

In Islamic tradition, a waqf is a charitable or religious donation made by Muslims for the benefit of the community. Such properties cannot be sold or used for any other purpose - which implies that waqf properties belong to God.

The government says that the waqf boards are among India's largest landholders. There are at least 872,351 waqf properties across India, spanning more than 940,000 acres, with an estimated value of 1.2 trillion rupees ($14.22bn; £11.26bn).

A major criticism from opponents of the bill is that it grants the government undue power to regulate the management of these endowments and determine whether a property qualifies as "waqf".

The bill also proposes the induction of two non-Muslim members on the waqf boards which oversee these properties. Critics have opposed this provision, arguing that most religious institutions run by non-Muslims do not permit followers of other faiths in their administration.
If you want to know who was behind this apparently political move, just keep following who gets the waqf land in coming years. It's Muslim heritage properties and these were made waqf. But now as Muslims are under attack globally, so are these properties.
 
This amendment to the Waqf Act is long overdue. It was crazy that the Waqf Board could just declare any land as Waqf property, and the actual owner had to fight for years to prove otherwise. There are real cases where entire Hindu villages were marked as Waqf land, and once that happened, the owners couldn’t sell or even use their land.

The change brings some sanity, now such disputes go to court, not decided by religious boards. Property rights should be handled by the legal system, not any religious authority. This is about fairness and rule of law, not targeting any community.
 
Again, I am saying, You don't know about how it works in India.

If you don't know, supporting blindly is not a smart choice.
Yet again targeting Muslims - targeting their places of worship - target their finances - target what they eat.
Don’t sugar coat it. We both know what this is about.
 
So what about it? The waqf system continues to exist, it hasn't been abolished. The bill only seeks to reform certain aspects of governance and dispute resolution, which have long been plagued by opacity and misuse. Tweaking the legal framework to bring more accountability and transparency is not an attack on faith, it's just good governance.

My dude,, we know EXACTLY why the hindutva state is doing this

Trying to get Hindu spies as board members to spy on a Muslim property board, they have been after Indian Muslims since partition

If it's not waqf, it's history, it's emperor's, it hijab or dress, or Eid and prayer

I hate you on behalf of Indian Muslims and even Indian Muslims are going WTF
 
My dude,, we know EXACTLY why the hindutva state is doing this

Trying to get Hindu spies as board members to spy on a Muslim property board, they have been after Indian Muslims since partition

If it's not waqf, it's history, it's emperor's, it hijab or dress, or Eid and prayer

I hate you on behalf of Indian Muslims and even Indian Muslims are going WTF
Check this out, sanghis being cruel and mean as always.

I'm a Modi voter and somewhat moderate supporter but stuff like this just fuels more hatred.

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Vid is in Hindi, understandable to most here who would be interested, I imagine, but there are subtitles available.
 
Waqf Board had started claiming Red fort, Parliament house and Delhi High Court as Waqf ki milkiyat

But when last year, they started claiming Ambani House Antilia as there property, we knew something will happened.

No action taken when Waqf illegally claimed entire Hindu villages in Kerala,

But the moment they laid claim to Neeta Ambani's House, then Mota bhai called Narendra Bhai , and then all hell broke loose , with Modi Government pushing the bill through in 2 days.
 
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