PAF J-10CE News, Updates and Discussion

[hussain0216]

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I'm assuming now in 2025 we currently have 36 J10C's?

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

How come there are two different color schemes?

One for air superiority and one for ground attack/CAS role

And not a color scheme but a camouflage which blend J10C to its missions perspective

 

[Yommie]

I'm assuming now in 2025 we currently have 36 J10C's?

Probably need about 100 J-10C by 2035. The F-16 A and B models need to be phased out ASAP.

 

[Yommie]

One for air superiority and one for ground attack/CAS role

And not a color scheme but a camouflage which blend J10C to its missions perspective

Personally, I'm not in favor of using J-10C for ground attack / CAS. It's very expensive. Drones should be used for that role.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Personally, I'm not in favor of using J-10C for ground attack / CAS. It's very expensive. Drones should be used for that role.

Drones can't able carry of payloads comparable to fighter jets

 

[hussain0216]

Probably need about 100 J-10C by 2035. The F-16 A and B models need to be phased out ASAP.

I think initially that may have been the plan, and it may still turn out that that we order more J10Cs

But I think PAF sees J10Cs and F16s as the same thing in terms of how they want to use the platform backed up by JF17s block 3s

So until they F16s are retired, PAF may be happy with adding more JF17 block threes slowly and just saving up for the J35

 

[Yommie]

Drones can't able carry of payloads comparable to fighter jets

Twin engined drones can carry a large payload.

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[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Twin engined drones can carry a large payload.

Still not comparable to fighter jets, at best twin engine drones can 1500 lbs of payloads whereas fighter jets can carry thousands of kilograms of payloads

 

[Yommie]

Still not comparable to fighter jets, at best twin engine drones can 1500 lbs of payloads whereas fighter jets can carry thousands of kilograms of payloads

Drones are better for the ground attack / CAS role. They have more flight time and range. Payload is not that big a deal. Modern armies don't have a lot of tanks. Even if Russia Ukraine war there are only a few hundred tanks compared to tens of thousands of tanks in WW2.

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[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Drones are better for the ground attack / CAS role. They have more flight time and range. Payload is not that big a deal. Modern armies don't have a lot of tanks. Even if Russia Ukraine war there are only a few hundred tanks compared to tens of thousands of tanks in WW2.

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Drones are more vulnerable to defend itself can't able to carry stand off weapons comparable to fighter jets

 

[Yommie]

Drones are more vulnerable to defend itself can't able to carry stand off weapons comparable to fighter jets

Drones are better for attacking ground targets. They are slower, making it easier for the operator to track and aim ground targets.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

Drones are better for attacking ground targets. They are slower, making it easier for the operator to track and aim ground targets.

Stick to the topic pleasse this not a drone or UCAVs thread, This is J-10C thread, and your logic is absurd and ridiculous today's targeting Pods are specifically design to match the speed of fighter jets, its slowdown and even freezes the target in subsonic even in supersonic flight regime, and this is old 50/60s era technology, lol do research before you post nonsense and crap

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Stick to the topic pleasse this not a drone or UCAVs thread, This is J-10C thread, and your logic is absurd and ridiculous today's targeting Pods are specifically design to match the speed of fighter jets, its slowdown and even freezes the target in subsonic even in supersonic flight regime, and this is old 50/60s era technology, lol do research before you post nonsense and crap

It's all about the post count, man. The post count!

 

[Michael]

@Yommie @NGAD IS THE BEST
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Please handle it with Administrators and MODS!

In essence, for UAVs and manned aircraft of the same size, the payload of UAVs is definitely greater than that of manned aircraft. The weight and volume of the UAV control system are much smaller than the survival support system of manned aircraft. It has more space to carry payloads.

The core problem is that under current technical conditions, the emergency response speed of UAVs is too slow and cannot be compared with manned aircraft at all. There are currently legal (moral and ethical) and technical barriers to AI technology in military technology. It can only be used in a small range and cannot replace humans.

At present.
All military UAVs are auxiliary aircraft. They do not have decision-making power themselves. Every action of them requires authorization or pre-planning from the control center. When manned aircraft are performing missions, they have independent emergency decision-making authority. Pilots can make their own decisions in emergency situations without asking the control center. Unmanned wingmen can only respond to emergencies in a timely manner under the control of manned fighters.

Because UAVs have a slow emergency response speed, they are usually positioned as war consumables. Therefore, the manufacturing cost of UAVs used for attack is the core factor. Based on cost considerations, such UAVs are usually small in size and have a low payload. Only UAVs used for high-altitude reconnaissance are usually large in size because they fly high enough to be difficult to be shot down.

The US military has an unmanned version of the F-16, and China has an unmanned version of the J-6/J-7. If the PLAAF deems it necessary, they can convert the J-10C into an unmanned version, or develop an unmanned fighter based on the J-10C alone. These unmanned fighters have a greater payload capacity than manned versions.

 

[Yommie]

Stick to the topic pleasse this not a drone or UCAVs thread, This is J-10C thread, and your logic is absurd and ridiculous today's targeting Pods are specifically design to match the speed of fighter jets, its slowdown and even freezes the target in subsonic even in supersonic flight regime, and this is old 50/60s era technology, lol do research before you post nonsense and crap

J-10C is never used for ground attack. You don't use a 50 million dollar machine for something that can done with a 1 million dollar machine. Simple economics.