Russia and China wont let Iran use their GPS systems for Iran's missiles. Russia has good relations with israel and Israel sells military tech(sometimes American tech) to China. So neither wants to harm relations with israel for Iran's sake. If China or Russia lended GlONASS or Beidou TP2 would have been far deadlier for Israel.
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Russia and China wont let Iran use their GPS systems for Iran's missiles. Russia has good relations with israel and Israel sells military tech(sometimes American tech) to China. So neither wants to harm relations with israel for Iran's sake. If China or Russia lended GlONASS or Beidou TP2 would have been far deadlier for Israel.
Khorasan Black Flags
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Immortals
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That’s not how it works. You cannot “selectively” choose which device you want or dont want to ping your network. There are billions of devices connecting to GPS everyday.
But that’s civilian grade level (which generally is not recommended for military grade operations due to margin of error). So iran can connect its missiles to GPs/gLONASS/Beidou and get CIVILIAN GRADE accuracy. But military grade is an entire another story.
If Iran couldn’t reliable access Civilian grade global positioning systems, then Israel wouldn’t have GPS jammed its entire airspace prior to attacks.
ShapurII
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I believe he was talking about GLONASS and Beidou for military purposes.
And why not? their signals are encrypted. They can refuse to give Iran the receivers that have built-in codes for decryption.
I was referring to military purposes
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Civilian GPS is intentionally degraded in accuracy. This is why GPS on smartphones and other devices relies on additional methods for correction.
However, for high-speed objects like missiles, such correction is impossible. Moreover, civilian GPS signals are deliberately designed to be vulnerable to jamming, to disable an enemy’s GPS use in times of conflict.
Therefore, Iran cannot effectively utilize either GPS or GLONASS.
Likely, Iran’s MRBMs achieved an accuracy of tens of meters in a situation where GPS was entirely useless. This is close to the limit of rocket engineering, and unfortunately, further improvement is not expected.
On the other hand, Israel, with access to military-grade GPS signals, can strike Iranian factories, radars, and bases with an accuracy of within one meter.
Naturally, military GPS is also extremely difficult to jam.
Unfortunately, this is a battle that was never meant to be won from the start.
However, for high-speed objects like missiles, such correction is impossible. Moreover, civilian GPS signals are deliberately designed to be vulnerable to jamming, to disable an enemy’s GPS use in times of conflict.
Therefore, Iran cannot effectively utilize either GPS or GLONASS.
Likely, Iran’s MRBMs achieved an accuracy of tens of meters in a situation where GPS was entirely useless. This is close to the limit of rocket engineering, and unfortunately, further improvement is not expected.
On the other hand, Israel, with access to military-grade GPS signals, can strike Iranian factories, radars, and bases with an accuracy of within one meter.
Naturally, military GPS is also extremely difficult to jam.
Unfortunately, this is a battle that was never meant to be won from the start.
Immortals
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Who told you this? Whoever told you this malarkey is misleading you.
EM waves especially those in the microwave band (like GPS) can be distorted, disrupted, and jammed. EVERYTHING answers to the laws of physics including American and Zionist weaponry.
Russia has been jamming GPS signals in throughout Ukraine war rendering US precision strike weapons ineffective (even admitted by Pentagon)
US-made weapons in Ukraine struggle against Russian jamming
U.S.-made satellite-guided munitions in Ukraine have failed to withstand Russian jamming technology, leading Kyiv to cease using certain Western-provided armaments after effectiveness rates dropped sharply, according to The Washington Post. Russia's jamming of the guidance systems of modern...
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“The success rate for U.S.-designed Excalibur shells, for example, fell to less than 10 percent hitting their targets before Ukraine’s military abandoned them last year, the assessments revealed. The reports highlighted that the Excalibur technology in its current versions had lost its potential, debunking its reputation as a “one shot, one target” weapon.”
And Iran has been testing jamming GPS for years around Tehran as airline pilots have admitted to dealing with. The question is how much equipment has Iran developed to protect critical zones and sites. Iran is much more vast in size than tiny Israel, so equipment production numbers matter much more not the “difficulty” of jamming.
Lulldapull
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What? GPS jamming over Israel goes without saying no?
Same thing over Iran thats why the Israeli attack on Iran also largely failed no?
And what relations?.......western agencies are now openly saying that China is funding Hamas and Hezb and Ansarallah no?
Please update yourself as per todays news.
Thank you.
Nuffle
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Basically the aircraft ends up being the first stage of an ALBM with all its advantages.
Nuffle
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In May 2000, the US government decided to remove the S/A (“Selective Availability”) signal from GPS transmissions. This signal was originally designed to introduce an error in the information generated by satellites intended for the general public, degrading the accuracy of position and time measurements.
In this way, the Americans thought they were protecting themselves from the possible use of GPS for weapon guidance by non-allied countries (US policy treats GPS as a critical defense resource, as well as a commercial and scientific resource). However, pressure from the civilian community, which began to use GPS for a wide range of applications and wanted a system that was as accurate as possible, managed to get the DoD to agree to deactivate the S/A.
With this decision, the Standard Positioning Service (SPS), for civilian use, now has a precision very close to that obtained by the Precise Positioning Service (PPS), for exclusive military use.
I have seen reports of some results obtained and they show that the average positioning error generated by GPS is between 24.72 and 25.54 meters with S/A and 4.27 and 7.09 meters without S/A, with a confidence level of 95%.
In addition, the positioning errors without S/A have a small stationary variance (between 0.16 and 0.36 meters), unlike the positioning errors with S/A (variance between 17.37 and 38.91 meters).
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Tijani
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Just the word "malarkey" made the post for me!
Shags101
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All those underground missile cities you would think they would make room to build them there out of view
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you can do that during war time
for now it's easier to continue 'in open' them move the trucks to underground bases when ready
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