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wrong , first when you can't provide the food, water or job you have no business of increasing the population
I originally answered your "Demographic become older is not bad".
Without an population increase it matters little if provide all that is beneficial in life. What are you doing it for if your population is declining? Just look at the Asian societies of Japan and South Korea, not to mention almost all of Europe.
Societal betterment those not take precedent over population increase. This is a fallacy propagated by the zionist West to their own detriment.
when you retire the people between 45-50 then you have no business complaining about shortage of work force.
when you can't provide the level of education guaranteed in your constitution then you have no business saying the gdp will be reduce if the population reduce.
Your views are conflicting. Retiring at 45-50 is a sigh of a society supporting population welfare. If you believe that engaging in wage labour until in your late sixties is a sign of progress then that's on you.
Iranians are some of the most educated people's on the planet. Your argument holds no merit. Your logic is flawed. You wish to sacrifice the future for the temporary benefit of those in the present.
aging population is byproduct if increase in living standards and modern medicine not population not increase .
You're once again contradicting yourself. Iranians are apparently relatively well off enough for population decline to set in. Living standards, education and health is relatively good for people to feel secure enough about life without having to rely on the future generations.
what is necessary is who reach replacement threshold . population must sustainable , we don't produce enough basic necessities such as foods, water , food, electricity, education opportunities and new jobs to make our population twice in 10-15 years .
This is utter nonsense! When your population increases so does the most productive segment of the labour force. The negative aspect of productivity will eventually be offset by the increased activity of a youthful population. This is inevitable.
and no sheer population is not power look at how many time Arab countries get beaten by Israel , how our war with Iraq become an stalemate and .....
Sheer population is a metric of power. The sheer size of a population matters even if they the country is relatively poorer in per capita comparison.
Stop conflating this is issue with the zionist occupying regime. The situation is different but even there the occupying entity is facing the same demographic issues. The occupation has no chance against the demographic replacement rate of the Palestinians. It is doomed to be replaced no matter what it does by the sheer number of future Palestinians. That is why the zionist West is hellbent on ethnic cleansing.

and sadly the gist of your post is shown in last sentence , w e need more population because rather than making our armed forces more efficient and modern we rather have more cannon fodder in case of war

If you believe this then you haven't read anything I wrote. Nowhere did I postulate such a thing. These are your views but since you brought it up let me please provide by arguments.

Technology doesn't win wars. This is a prevalent misconception. If this was the case then Germany and Japan would've won all the major wars they were engaged in during the last century. Doesn't matter how advanced your systems are if you lack the youthful population to fight your wars. I not against the technological advancement of Iran, on the contrary, but believing in only technology is to ones detriment. Wars are fought with boots on the ground no matter how advanced the adversary. Go check out the conflict in Ukraine.
 
it is easier to fix those things than to fix a declining population
Yes it is but remember that material comfort without a societal embrace of a purpose of propagation is doom to failure no matter what. Go ask the Europeans. Finland has gone so far that it is considering payments of 30 000 euros for every child born by women under the age of 30. And Finland is a paragon of everything @Hack-Hook is arguing for.
 
it is easier to fix those things than to fix a declining population
it's easier , OK show evidence that those problems are even acknowledged
and here the problem is not declining population.
the problem is that some people want rapid increase in population
 
I originally answered your "Demographic become older is not bad".
Without an population increase it matters little if provide all that is beneficial in life. What are you doing it for if your population is declining? Just look at the Asian societies of Japan and South Korea, not to mention almost all of Europe.
Societal betterment those not take precedent over population increase. This is a fallacy propagated by the zionist West to their own detriment.
south Korea problem is not keeping population at same level m the are below the replacement threshold that is the problem. its fertility rate is 0.75 which is way below 2.1 that is needed to replace population. for japan its 1.14

Your views are conflicting. Retiring at 45-50 is a sigh of a society supporting population welfare. If you believe that engaging in wage labour until in your late sixties is a sign of progress then that's on you.
no its sign that you wont produce enough job so you have to retire the work forces that gained invaluable experience at their prime to hide the fact you cant provide enough job.
You're once again contradicting yourself. Iranians are apparently relatively well off enough for population decline to set in. Living standards, education and health is relatively good for people to feel secure enough about life without having to rely on the future generations.
different think m don't under estimate the value of modern medicine in increase the life expectancy, it have no relation to how fulfilling your life is
This is utter nonsense! When your population increases so does the most productive segment of the labour force. The negative aspect of productivity will eventually be offset by the increased activity of a youthful population. This is inevitable.
expect it wont because you don't produce enough job in production sector and they had to resort to fake jobs


by the way how productive and utopian are the countries with higher fertility rate
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let see some people vision for the future of iran
 
south Korea problem is not keeping population at same level m the are below the replacement threshold that is the problem. its fertility rate is 0.75 which is way below 2.1 that is needed to replace population. for japan its 1.14
I'm really sorry but you're not arguing none of the points here. Please understand the basis of the differing viewpoints.
Your initial statement made it clear that you saw no negative effects of a declining population. You're stating the obvious here. Inability to sustain the minimum replacement level fertility is a declining population. This is what we're talking about. You deem this to be beneficial and I stated otherwise. I provided the examples of Japan and South Korea but you decide to say the same thing I've been saying? Both thees countries are in demographic difficulties despite their very high societal levels of technology and automation. Did you not understand the point I'm making?
no its sign that you wont produce enough job so you have to retire the work forces that gained invaluable experience at their prime to hide the fact you cant provide enough job.
This makes no sense. People are not forced to retire. If your statement held any value then there would not be any unemployment because you could always retire the elderly and replace them with those from younger generation.
different think m don't under estimate the value of modern medicine in increase the life expectancy, it have no relation to how fulfilling your life is
"aging population is byproduct if increase in living standards and modern medicine not population not increase ."

You're once again contradicting yourself. Iranians are apparently relatively well off enough for population decline to set in. Living standards, education and health is relatively good for people to feel secure enough about life without having to rely on the future generations.

Please read what I write. Your responses are unrelated to what I write.
I am not arguing against medicine or the again of the population. I'm arguing against your claims that it is beneficial.
expect it wont because you don't produce enough job in production sector and they had to resort to fake jobs.
So now your arguments is to resort to calling certain occupations as fake jobs? And you're doing so to argue against what exactly? What is the point you're trying to make in relation to your initial statement?
by the way how productive and utopian are the countries with higher fertility rate
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let see some people vision for the future of iran
You're truly unaware of migration patterns. The majority of the countries in blue are suffering from the consequences of what I been stating. The negative effects are only offset by migration from countries with higher fertility rates. This is despite these societies very high technological levels. Despite the fact that they can to a certain degree of counteract the negative effects with technology they still active encourage migratory flows to their countries. The US being the prime example. Their populations and some populist politicians are unwilling to accept this basic fact.
 
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Iranian who acted as senior informant and spy for Mossad within Iran was captured and executed this morning
 
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These campaigns will not work while corrupt elite/top officials are safe. The Chinese execute corrupt officials, in Iran they are safe or get promoted. Poverty and corruption opens the doors to enemy to infiltration.
 
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Iran Police: Major counter-terrorism operation by police Anti-Terrorism Unit dismantled an ISIS suicide/terror network in Tehran, Isfahan, Qom & Alborz provinces. 13 members incl. the leader of the team & attackers arrested; suicide gear seized. Foiled plot for recent ceremonies
 
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Iran Police: Major counter-terrorism operation by police Anti-Terrorism Unit dismantled an ISIS suicide/terror network in Tehran, Isfahan, Qom & Alborz provinces. 13 members incl. the leader of the team & attackers arrested; suicide gear seized. Foiled plot for recent ceremonies

A big shame on their religion/sect and their holy figures who gave example to their followers how to Kill, steal, rape.
They should execute them in front of the Tomb of Shah Ismail (R.A) (located in Ardebil).
 
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I think we can probably close this thread...
 
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PJAK attacked government forces


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