Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[tsunset]

Trump leaked Israel/Bibi war games and reveals he rejected Israel's plans

Israel's plans relied heavily on the US and involved sending commando teams to destroy underground nuclear sites (Natanz)

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Sending a foot commando group into nuclear facilities underground? With teleporting abilities or some magic?

Did they not learn from past mistakes? Unless the commando have the ability to teleport themselves underground unseen, i don't see how that plan would be successful, we're not in abandoned Syria or Iraq

This is a Hollywood plan, even after very heavy bombing, this would never work, they really think they are the "superior race with better IQ"

 

[Tijani]

Trump leaked Israel/Bibi war games and reveals he rejected Israel's plans

Israel's plans relied heavily on the US and involved sending commando teams to destroy underground nuclear sites (Natanz)

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Wallahi l for one would really really love to see that happen! Just imagine 20 odd US special forces paraded in front of Iranian state TV. Oh the joy! The joy such a thing would bring to my old heart. They have apparently forgotten this.

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[SaadH]

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"Wazir Difa Arbistan", interesting...refusing to call it "Wazir Difa Saudi Arab"

 

[Tijani]

"Wazir Difa Arbistan", interesting...refusing to call it "Wazir Difa Saudi Arab"

Had to check. You're right. Wonder why? Official name is عربستان سعودی which is arabestâne so’udi.

 

[SaadH]

Isn't the official name for Saudi Arabia in Iran, Aribistan?

Don't know, why would it be Arabistan when the official name is Saudi Arabia, it's as if other countries referring to Islamic Republic of Iran as Parthia or Sassanid.

 

[Tijani]

Don't know, why would it be Arabistan when the official name is Saudi Arabia, it's as if other countries referring to Islamic Republic of Iran as Parthia or Sassanid.

Had to check and changed my post accordingly.

 

[Wingzero30]

Yeah. Good luck with that. lol

We have seen how their so called 'commando forces' fared against Palestinian fighters lol.

 

[Kyussis]

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Quite unusual for a defense minister to have meetings with the President let alone the Leader!

 

[ShapurII]

"Wazir Difa Arbistan", interesting...refusing to call it "Wazir Difa Saudi Arab"

Saudi Arabia is called Arabistan in Iran.
And Islamic Republic of Iran is called Iran in most countries.
We also call Islamic Republic of Pakistan just Pakistan.
Or the Democratic Republic of Korea is called North Korea.

Nothing new here. Meanwhile, that's just a random guy on twitter. Not a newspaper or something.

 

[Lulldapull]

So now that trumps backed out of the Iran attack drama, and the plan flopped due to poor leadership/ planning, how were these super secret James Bond style teams supposed to have infiltrated all of Irans secret military facilities?

Stealth bin laden black hawks? Transporting Al-Gurdish terrorists? Mongolian nato Turks aiding the west? Or Afghani sold out mercenaries doing terrorism?

Which one?

 

[ShapurII]

I think we need a topic for this. Probably a sticky topic.
This is currently the most important development about Iran on local and international media.

From what we know in news outlets, Iran has offered the US a three-step deal.

1. In the first stage, Iran agrees to limit its uranium enrichment to 3.67% for a period of time, while requesting the United States to grant access to its frozen financial resources on one hand and allow oil sales on the other.

2. In the second stage, Iran wants the US to persuade the European troika not to activate the snapback mechanism and to lift some sanctions at this stage. In return, Iran agrees to completely halt high-level uranium enrichment, restore the International Atomic Energy Agency's inspections to JCPOA conditions, and implement the Additional Protocol.

3. In the third stage, if the comprehensive agreement with Iran is ratified by the U.S. Congress and primary and secondary sanctions against Iran are lifted by the U.S., Iran will agree to transfer its surplus enriched uranium stockpile to a third country.

I think this is a good proposal for Iran. The only problem is the third one. I think Iran should seal our enriched uranium at a disclosed location under the supervision of IAEA and American inspectors. If we move our stockpile outside of Iran, there is no guarantee that the US would honor their end of the bargain.

@Persian Gulf @Hack-Hook

 

[ParthianLord]

That's what they want you to believe. It's the same 'bad police' vs. 'good police' nonsense.
Believe me, if the US or Israel thought they could destroy Iran's nuclear program, or even stop it for one year, without serious repercussions for Israel or US assets in the region, they wouldn't wait for even one week.

We all know its bullshit,

even the Israelis themselves know its bullshit and Netanyahu chickened out in confronting Iran for decades now.

Their only option ever was the US attacking Iran.

 

[Eşbah]

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Who believes this propaganda? They will do nothing without US support.

 

[ShapurII]

We all know its bullshit,

even the Israelis themselves know its bullshit and Netanyahu chickened out in confronting Iran for decades now. It will be Gameover for them.

Their only option was the US attacking Iran.

Don't underestimate Netanyahu's stupidity. He's been emboldened because Iran didn't respond to their attack and he might try stupid things. But the whole idea of destroying a place like Fordow with underground commandos is hilarious.

 

[Garcia Sea]

Rather, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump and Netanyahu, on the contrary, suspected that it was a trap for the Iranian government to be so easily deceived by the false negotiations.
There is a deadline called the sunset clause in October 2025.
Neither the US, the EU, nor Israel have any intention of accepting the implementation of the sunset clause.
Unless Iran completely surrenders, starting a war by October, triggering the snapback, and placing it under a complete blockade is a given course of action.
Trump and his team must be surprised at how easily the Iranian government has completely lost its will to fight, and is not preparing for war or planning any counterattacks, just by staging talks and leaking a little information through the media.