Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[925boy]

Iran praises Türkiye’s stance on nuclear talks with US

Iran's top diplomat, Abbas Araghchi, hailed what he called Türkiye’s 'constructive stance” regarding indirect Oman-mediated nuclear talks between...

www.dailysabah.com

Turkey stands with Iran

I dont think that statement carries much weight today. respectfully.

 

[Lulldapull]

Don't even know who they are. I don't watch Youtube podcasts.

Sizing up the two protagonists (Iran and Israel)........man!!!!!........come on now.

It ain't even a contest no? Iraans yuge no? controlling all these colored semites? Iraans floating on oil n gas/ young educated people/ an actual military industrial complex?

Lotta good people out there hoping today that Iran spares Israel down da road and let em fukkin live.....so as long as they behave.

Irans not a bully by any stretch of the imagination. This is why prez Trumps talking to em.

Otherwise why bother no?......rest of da muzlims just a buncha chumps totally under IMF/ WB/ ECB control.

Theys can't challenge the global order. Too weak.......

 

[925boy]

Trump rejected Israel’s plan to attack Iran – NYT

US President Donald Trump has reportedly refused to endorse an Israeli plan to attack nuclear facilities in Iran

www.rt.com

Looks like Trump stopped Netanyahu’s evil plan.

I doubt Trump stopped Israel's war plans, he probably just advised Israel against it, and he still agreed to ship bombs to Israel in case it "takes that route" against Iran (as long as Israel doesn't expect US to openly and directly support it in a possible strike against Iran).

 

[Lulldapull]

Check out the extreme Fox propaganda.......

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This right here is just retarded!

 

[925boy]

MBS in Tehran next according to reports

Saudis are doing this EITHER because they are afraid of what Iran (or its allies or proxies) will do to KSA, or what Israel may do to them- one or the other IMO. The timing is suspicious because Saudis didnt just pick now to be "friends with the Iranians" (JMO).

 

[FUB]

I doubt Trump stopped Israel's war plans, he probably just advised Israel against it, and he still agreed to ship bombs to Israel in case it "takes that route" against Iran (as long as Israel doesn't expect US to openly and directly support it in a possible strike against Iran).

It is all psyops for the stupid goys on the right who have woken up and realized that their entire government is beholden to a foreign state. This is all an act to show that AIPAC does not control US foreign policy in the Middle East. Anyone with half a brain knows that the Zionist elected DJT. Israelis understand that Iran is the only country standing in their way of complete hegemony in the Middle East. They want to control all trade routes and want everyone to be subservient to them.
The US took out Saddam, Libya, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Lebanon, Houthis, etc.. They either destroyed them with a civil war or kinetic warfare. They want Iran smashed to pieces.

The idiots in the Iranian establishment can not be that stupid.If Iran has nukes, there can be no more threats and no regime change. Netanyahu wants the Iranian leadership sodomized live-streamed online.

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[Lulldapull]

Saudis are doing this EITHER because they are afraid of what Iran (or its allies or proxies) will do to KSA, or what Israel may do to them- one or the other IMO. The timing is suspicious because Saudis didnt just pick now to be "friends with the Iranians" (JMO).

I believe Irans told da sawdi's dat look......we're happy to give you nukes cuz yous ain't goin get jack shit otherwise. Not in today's world. No chance in hell.......lets get real......

Lets get rid of the Zionists no? ........wes ain't got no drama between each other........

 

[925boy]

Your points are correct, unless there underground agents such as those with jund ullah, ja ish al adl, BLA, and other local traitors who are collaborating with the Zionists and will be part of this commando group.

and what will Iran's armed forces (Army + IRGC + Basij) of 900K-1M people be doing while at most 2-5K "commandos"insert themselves in Iran and go and "destroy" Iran's nuclear facilities? This sounds so much like a video game.

Mind you, US is still VERY cautious about deploying 1 soldier in the ground to fight Iran or its AoR forces.

 

[925boy]

That professor Mearsheimer has analyzed that NYT article forensically.

He said it on his podcast that Israel can’t pull it off alone. Without the US, shetanyahu don’t got the goods and can’t deliver.

Israel can pull it off alone, Israel just can't pull it off alone successfully.

 

[ShapurII]

and what will Iran's armed forces (Army + IRGC + Basij) of 900K-1M people be doing while at most 2-5K "commandos"insert themselves in Iran and go and "destroy" Iran's nuclear facilities? This sounds so much like a video game.

Mind you, US is still VERY cautious about deploying 1 soldier in the ground to fight Iran or its AoR forces.

I believe their first mission would be to keep the operation secret by completely disconnecting Fordow from the outside world before entering it. They would probably do that through cyber warfare and by disconnecting all communication lines to Fordow. After all, Fordow is tens of meters under the ground.

It's a plan that is hard to imagine to be feasible.

 

[tsunset]

I believe their first mission would be to keep the operation secret by completely disconnecting Fordow from the outside world before entering it. They would probably do that through cyber warfare and by disconnecting all communication lines to Fordow. After all, Fordow is tens of meters under the ground.

It's a plan that is hard to imagine to be feasible.

What you said is possible if they directly teleport inside Fordow

Fordow losing contact to outside world will be seen as very suspicious and backup would immediately check what's happening, this is a critical infrastructure, any doubts or suspicious event, they will send hundreds of backup in not even five minutes

The big no is how will they get to Fordow or close to it without using teleportation/invisible caps

I very hardly imagine an helicopter making even 10km inside Iran without being detected by multiple radars from very far away

You can't jump from F-22/35 or B-2, unless they are willing to scotch paratroopers with duct tape inside the internal weapons bay of B-2

 

[925boy]

I believe their first mission would be to keep the operation secret by completely disconnecting Fordow from the outside world before entering it.

Ok. Disconnecting Fordow would most likely trigger strong suspicions and military deployments by Iranian military units near/around Fordow.

They would probably do that through cyber warfare and by disconnecting all communication lines to Fordow. After all, Fordow is tens of meters under the ground.

Most likely wont work (as you probably already know, because Iran has used previous cyber attacks from US and Israel to harden its internal networks and connected sites from outside attacks. Israel's cyber attack would probably only work for a few hrs or days.

It's a plan that is hard to imagine to be feasible.

Boom. I mean, it can only be PDF logic to see Israel lose 5-20K soldiers from fighting small militias like Hamas and Hezbollah and not destroying them, which led to 30%+ of IDF soldiers not showing up for deployment orders, and to conclude from that that Israel is so ready to attack Iranian nuclear sites.

Even 1 Israeli attack on an Iranian nuclear site will give Iran ALL authorizations and justifications to attack anywhere in Israel, because after all, TP1 and TP2 were still restrained operations.

 

[ShapurII]

What you said is possible if they directly teleport inside Fordow

Fordow losing contact to outside world will be seen as very suspicious and backup would immediately check what's happening, this is a critical infrastructure, any doubts or suspicious event, they will send hundreds of backup in not even five minutes

The big no is how will they get to Fordow or close to it without using teleportation/invisible caps

I very hardly imagine an helicopter making even 10km inside Iran without being detected by multiple radars from very far away

You can't jump from F-22/35 or B-2, unless they are willing to scotch paratroopers with duct tape inside the internal weapons bay of B-2

Backup is different from the entire Iranian military. The Americans wanted to pull off a similar plan for saving the US diplomats. It didn't end well for them though, but it failed because of a sand storm, not because we stopped them.

Dude, 5 million illegal Afghans have crossed the border in 2 years. Do you think Israel can't send a few thousand commandos inside Iran in plain clothes? This is probably why Israel claims they need time to prepare for this plan. Obviously, they don't intend to heliboard them to Isfahan or Qom.

They don't even have to enter together at once. They can enter from different borders (and God knows we have plenty of border with neighboring countries, most of them are US-infested, extremely insecure and unguarded by us and we know for sure that the US and Israel are present there, particularly in Erbil, Republic of Azerbaijan, the UAE, Qatar, even Afghanistan and Turkmenistan).

They assembled a quadcopter that crashed into a military facility near Natanz a few years ago. They assassinated Ismail Haiyeh in the middle of Tehran. They assassinated our top nuclear expert with a satellite-controlled machine gun in Damavand (near Tehran). They killed and injured 6 of our nuclear scientists in the middle of Tehran with magnet bombs. So, it's not like Mossad has no presence in Iran and they haven't done similar things before.

It's still a stupid plan though.

 

[Lulldapull]

Backup is different from the entire Iranian military. The Americans wanted to pull off a similar plan for saving the US diplomats. It didn't end well for them though, but it failed because of a sand storm, not because we stopped them.

Dude, 5 million illegal Afghans have crossed the border in 2 years. Do you think Israel can't send a few thousand commandos inside Iran in plain clothes? This is probably why Israel claims they need time to prepare for this plan. Obviously, they don't intend to heliboard them to Isfahan or Qom.

They don't even have to enter together at once. They can enter from different borders (and we have plenty of border with neighboring countries, most of them are extremely insecure and unguarded and we know for sure that the US and Israel are present there, particularly in Erbil, Republic of Azerbaijan, the UAE, Qatar, even Afghanistan and Turkmenistan).

They assembled a quadcopter that crashed into a military facility near Natanz a few years ago. They assassinated Ismail Haiyeh in the middle of Tehran. They assassinated our top nuclear expert with a satellite-controlled machine gun in Damavand. They killed and injured 6 of our nuclear scientists in the middle of Tehran with magnet bombs. So, it's not like Mossad has no presence in Iran and they haven't done similar things before.

It's still a stupid plan though.

In other words, those 'commandos' are already in place no? And like Shetanyahu quipped that he needs until Oct to be fully ready.

Dubai/ Erbil/ Baqu......used for logistics and comms intel/ forward operating bases for operations/ command center.

 

[ShapurII]

In other words, those 'commandos' are already in place no? And like Shetanyahu quipped that he needs until Oct to be fully ready.

Dubai/ Erbil/ Baqu......used for logistics and comms intel/ forward operating bases for operations/ command center.

Could be. And they can enter more agents through our widely open borders. If bare-footed illegal Afghans can do that with $500, why can't Mossad?

However, I don't think this plan (even if it exists) would ever materialize. I mean it was a stupid "plan" to begin with, but now that it has been exposed to the public (even if it's part of their "bad police" vs. "good police" or only as a negotiation tactic, it raises alertness in our intelligence community), it's even harder to carry this out now.

The hardest part of this operation is to execute it in total silence, or create enough chaos for their agents to get away after their missions. So, they either need to orchestrate something really big as a distraction (like a series of huge explosions in Tehran near important locations like the House of the Leader or the residence of the President for distraction), or do all of this in complete silence.