USA Deportations news
- Thread starter Davey Crockett
- Start date
Sharma Ji
Elite Member
oh please.
I've heard the 20+ million illegals (mostly Mexicans etc) number for years now on Fox etc.
also, you're African, right ? .. because all our ancestors are Africans ?
j_hungary
Professional
well in 3 posts, you gave me 3 different number, and they are millions apart. So which is it? 11 million? 20+ million or 30+ millionsoh please.
I've heard the 20+ million illegals (mostly Mexicans etc) number for years now on Fox etc.
also, you're African, right ? .. because all our ancestors are Africans ?
Sharma Ji
Elite Member
around, or close to, or between 20 - 30 is what I have noticed them say ?
I don't live there, no idea.
j_hungary
Professional
dude, you are talking about 10 million people different in 3 answer.s I was a cop and if I put out a call about a suspect about 5 foot 1 inch tall, or 6 foot 1 inch tall or 7 foot 1 inch tall, that's discrepancy is a lot.
And if you have no idea, then maybe keep it to yourself?
Sharma Ji
Elite Member
Allow me to repeat it yet again for you.
I have, for years now (say around 10) heard on Fox news and some other US news, that there are 20 - 30 million illegals in the US.
and that's about it.. not claiming it to be the truth or anything.
comprende ?
j_hungary
Professional
Que bien, no hay alguna palabar, comprende?
Again, as I said, if you don't know, maybe keep the number to yourself? That's because it may not be the truth or anything.
Sharma Ji
Elite Member
Go ask Fox and Breitbart and others to "keep it to themselves"
How am I to know ? just a rando who reads..
Anyway, what do you think is the real number of illegals there, guessing you have some good sources there, do share them please.
I'm mostly interested coz this immigration (legal and otherwise) thing, maybe more than anything else, it what sent Trump to the white house, twice.
Clearly, it is an issue.
j_hungary
Professional
I don't need to tell fox and Breitbart to keep it t themselves, they cater to their audience ON THEIR medium, this is not Fox nor Breitbart though, that's the different.
Immigration is not what send trump into the white house twice, it's ALWAYS the economics. And there weren't hardly any "illegal" back before Bill Clinton as president because people who come to the US illegally would leave after the seasonal work they had done.
Watch this video, this explain the current issue with immigration well, there are information beside Fox and Breitbart exist.
Last edited:
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
So, about the time Obama was sworn into office, it was being reported there were between 10-12M illegals then. Perhaps more. By the end of Obama's tenure and the start of Trump 1.0, the numbers were being estimated as high as 30M. This in spite of the number of deportations that occurred over those 8 years.
Then, almost miraculously, during the 2020 election cycle, the number of illegals estimated to be in the US was again at 11M. During Biden's time in the White House, many sources have confirmed the number of illegals that entered this country was between 12M-14M. In 4 years. That would put the number of illegals in this country at easily 22-25M. Some sources claim much higher; 36M-42M.
Now, there is no way, no way in hell, that more illegals left the US voluntarily or were deported by Biden than were admitted through the various schemes his administration employed. No way.
I still have friends who are AD BP and they are adamant the numbers are easily 25M.
Yes, this is a problem and needs to be addressed. Hard. Amnesty is NOT the answer. It will only encourage others as has been demonstrated since 1965 and again under the Reagan Administration with Simpson-Mazzoli.
The fact that the government has colluded with NGOs to advise / instruct illegals on what to say when they encounter BP agents is in itself sickening. Over 85% of "asylum" claims have been found to be without merit. Further, the numbers of illegals skipping their immigration hearings is increasing.
VCheng
THINK TANK: CONSULTANT
Fair enough, but the problem arises when lawful visitors showing up at a port of entry are simply not aware of the what the law says, or in violation unbeknownst to them, and thus there has to be a certain level of discretion involved quite often in such adjudications.
In such instances, misunderstandings can arise based on what one side views as reasonable or unreasonable, depending on their perspectives. Add to this a combination of prevailing political winds and social echochamber inflammation, and add a pinch of spice - and voila! A perfect recipe for playing to one's own preferred peanut gallery.
Of course, illegal entry is a whole another matter entirely.
Nan Yang
Registered Member
Southeast Asians in L.A. region are being detained, deported at routine ICE check-ins
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in Los Angeles detain an immigrant in 2022 who was deemed a threat to national security.
(Damian Dovarganes / Associated Press)
By Melissa GomezStaff Writer
April 22, 2025 3 AM PT
A growing number of Southeast Asian immigrants in Los Angeles and Orange counties whose deportation orders have been on indefinite hold for years are being detained, and in some cases, deported after showing up for routine check-ins at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement offices, according to immigrant attorneys and advocacy groups.
In recent months, a number of Cambodian, Laotian and Vietnamese immigrants whose orders had been stayed — in some cases for decades — have been told that they will be enforced as the Trump administration seeks to increase the number of deportations.
The immigrants being targeted are generally people who were convicted of a crime after arriving in the U.S., making them eligible for deportation after their release from jail or prison. In most cases, ICE never followed through with the deportations because the immigrants had lived in the U.S. long enough that their home countries no longer recognized them as citizens, or as is the case with Laos, the home country does not readily issue repatriation documents.
Instead, under longstanding policies, these immigrants have been allowed to remain in the U.S. with the condition that they checked in with ICE agents regularly to show they were working and staying out of trouble. The check-ins generally start out monthly, but over time become an annual visit.
According to the Asian Law Caucus, as of 2024 there were roughly 15,100 Cambodians, Laotians and Vietnamese nationals living in this situation across the U.S.
“People are very worried about their check-ins. They are dedicated to complying with their reporting requirements and want to continue to comply as they have been doing for years, but they are also afraid to report based on what they have seen on the news,” said Lee Ann Felder-Heim, a staff attorney at the Asian Law Caucus.
Connie Chung Joe, the chief executive of Asian Americans Advancing Justice Southern California, said that in the last month her organization has been made aware of at least 17 community members in Los Angeles and Orange counties who have gone in for scheduled check-ins, only to be detained or deported.
“These are folks who’ve been here for decades,” Chung Joe said. “It just breaks the community and their families apart.”
Orange County is home to the largest diaspora of Vietnamese outside of their home country, many of them refugees who fled the fall of Saigon. The county’s Little Saigon is home to more than 100,000 Vietnamese Americans. In addition, tens of thousands of Cambodians and Laotians have settled in the Los Angeles area, according to the Pew Research Center.
Many Southeast Asian refugees were brought over as children, and not all got adequate support as they coped with the upheaval, said Laura Urias, program director at Immigrant Defenders Law Center. Some fell in with gangs as they struggled to assimilate, and that’s when they got caught up in the criminal system.
Although they may have gotten in trouble as youths, Urias said, many served their time and went on to get jobs and put down roots.
In one instance, a Cambodian immigrant went in for his ICE check-in and came out with an order to produce a plane ticket to Cambodia within 60 days, she said. Urias said none of the center’s clients have been deported at this point, but that she has heard about people without legal representation who were deported after a check-in.
“It’s definitely something that we haven’t really seen before,” Urias said. “It aligns with the overall message that this administration came in with — threatening to deport as many people as possible.”
The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE, did not respond to a list of questions from The Times about the reasons behind the policy shift and whether the immigrants’ home countries will accept them.
Urias said she suspects that the Trump administration’s looming tariff threats have made some countries more willing to cooperate and accept deportees.
Richard Wilner said his firm, Wilner & O’Reilly, in Orange, has seen an uptick in requests for consultations from the families of immigrants who have been detained. His firm does not take on clients who have been convicted of serious crimes such as sexual offenses and murder.
“In the past two weeks, I’ve gotten more phone calls than I have in the past 15 years or longer, because people are getting arrested,” he said.
He added that he hasn’t been able to figure out why some immigrants with delayed deportation orders are being targeted for removal and not others.
“These are people with outstanding orders of deportation, some of whom have gone on to lead remarkable lives, started families, businesses, good folks. Others have gone on to re-offend,” he said. “I don’t know what the parameters are, because not everyone is getting snatched up at check-in.”
Melissa Gomez
Melissa Gomez is an enterprise reporter on the State Team who joined the Los Angeles Times in 2018. She reports on a range of news and issues, with a special focus on the Central Valley. She previously covered education and the 2020 presidential campaign at The Times. A native Floridian, she graduated from the University of Florida.
Davey Crockett
Elite Member
- Thread starter
- #703
Davey Crockett
Elite Member
- Thread starter
- #704
"He added that he hasn’t been able to figure out why some immigrants with delayed deportation orders are being targeted for removal and not others."Southeast Asians in L.A. region are being detained, deported at routine ICE check-ins
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents in Los Angeles detain an immigrant in 2022 who was deemed a threat to national security.
(Damian Dovarganes / Associated Press)
By Melissa GomezStaff Writer
April 22, 2025 3 AM PT
A growing number of Southeast Asian immigrants in Los Angeles and Orange counties whose deportation orders have been on indefinite hold for years are being detained, and in some cases, deported after showing up for routine check-ins at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement offices, according to immigrant attorneys and advocacy groups.
In recent months, a number of Cambodian, Laotian and Vietnamese immigrants whose orders had been stayed — in some cases for decades — have been told that they will be enforced as the Trump administration seeks to increase the number of deportations.
The immigrants being targeted are generally people who were convicted of a crime after arriving in the U.S., making them eligible for deportation after their release from jail or prison. In most cases, ICE never followed through with the deportations because the immigrants had lived in the U.S. long enough that their home countries no longer recognized them as citizens, or as is the case with Laos, the home country does not readily issue repatriation documents.
Instead, under longstanding policies, these immigrants have been allowed to remain in the U.S. with the condition that they checked in with ICE agents regularly to show they were working and staying out of trouble. The check-ins generally start out monthly, but over time become an annual visit.
According to the Asian Law Caucus, as of 2024 there were roughly 15,100 Cambodians, Laotians and Vietnamese nationals living in this situation across the U.S.
“People are very worried about their check-ins. They are dedicated to complying with their reporting requirements and want to continue to comply as they have been doing for years, but they are also afraid to report based on what they have seen on the news,” said Lee Ann Felder-Heim, a staff attorney at the Asian Law Caucus.
Connie Chung Joe, the chief executive of Asian Americans Advancing Justice Southern California, said that in the last month her organization has been made aware of at least 17 community members in Los Angeles and Orange counties who have gone in for scheduled check-ins, only to be detained or deported.
“These are folks who’ve been here for decades,” Chung Joe said. “It just breaks the community and their families apart.”
Orange County is home to the largest diaspora of Vietnamese outside of their home country, many of them refugees who fled the fall of Saigon. The county’s Little Saigon is home to more than 100,000 Vietnamese Americans. In addition, tens of thousands of Cambodians and Laotians have settled in the Los Angeles area, according to the Pew Research Center.
Many Southeast Asian refugees were brought over as children, and not all got adequate support as they coped with the upheaval, said Laura Urias, program director at Immigrant Defenders Law Center. Some fell in with gangs as they struggled to assimilate, and that’s when they got caught up in the criminal system.
Although they may have gotten in trouble as youths, Urias said, many served their time and went on to get jobs and put down roots.
In one instance, a Cambodian immigrant went in for his ICE check-in and came out with an order to produce a plane ticket to Cambodia within 60 days, she said. Urias said none of the center’s clients have been deported at this point, but that she has heard about people without legal representation who were deported after a check-in.
“It’s definitely something that we haven’t really seen before,” Urias said. “It aligns with the overall message that this administration came in with — threatening to deport as many people as possible.”
The Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE, did not respond to a list of questions from The Times about the reasons behind the policy shift and whether the immigrants’ home countries will accept them.
Urias said she suspects that the Trump administration’s looming tariff threats have made some countries more willing to cooperate and accept deportees.
Richard Wilner said his firm, Wilner & O’Reilly, in Orange, has seen an uptick in requests for consultations from the families of immigrants who have been detained. His firm does not take on clients who have been convicted of serious crimes such as sexual offenses and murder.
“In the past two weeks, I’ve gotten more phone calls than I have in the past 15 years or longer, because people are getting arrested,” he said.
He added that he hasn’t been able to figure out why some immigrants with delayed deportation orders are being targeted for removal and not others.
“These are people with outstanding orders of deportation, some of whom have gone on to lead remarkable lives, started families, businesses, good folks. Others have gone on to re-offend,” he said. “I don’t know what the parameters are, because not everyone is getting snatched up at check-in.”
Melissa Gomez
Melissa Gomez is an enterprise reporter on the State Team who joined the Los Angeles Times in 2018. She reports on a range of news and issues, with a special focus on the Central Valley. She previously covered education and the 2020 presidential campaign at The Times. A native Floridian, she graduated from the University of Florida.
There may be a direct correlation between tarrif wars and targeting certain immigrants.
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Absolutely disgusting:
www.foxnews.com
Illegal from Mexico. MULTIPLE FELONIES!
Was deported and reentered the US illegally:
No excuse for this. None whatsoever. A prime example that this individual needs to be dealt with harshly.
Illegal immigrant convicted of killing teens in high-speed crash to be released early: 'It's disgusting'
The families of the victims of an Orange County, Calif., high-speed car crash are sending letters to the state to keep an illegal immigrant convicted felon behind bars.
www.foxnews.com
Illegal from Mexico. MULTIPLE FELONIES!
Was deported and reentered the US illegally:
No excuse for this. None whatsoever. A prime example that this individual needs to be dealt with harshly.
