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Musk: China's rare earth export controls affect Tesla Optimus robot production




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Elon Musk, CEO of US electric car giant Tesla, said that the production of the company's "Optimus" humanoid robot has been affected by China's rare earth export controls.

Musk said in an earnings call on Tuesday (April 22) that China wants guarantees that its rare earth magnets are not used for military purposes, Reuters reported. Tesla is working with Beijing to obtain an export license for the use of rare earth magnets.

Musk previously predicted that Tesla would produce thousands of Optimus Prime robots this year.

According to the Securities Times, high-performance neodymium iron boron permanent magnet material is the core material of robot servo motors. Public data shows that a single humanoid robot usually requires more than 40 servo motors, each of which requires 50 to 100 grams of neodymium iron boron material, with a total amount of up to 2 to 4 kilograms. Taking Tesla's "Corey" as an example, a single robot requires about 3.5 kilograms of high-performance neodymium iron boron.

China's Ministry of Commerce and General Administration of Customs jointly issued an announcement in early April, announcing the implementation of export controls on some medium and heavy rare earth-related items. According to the announcement, this export control involves seven types of medium and heavy rare earth related items, including samarium, gadolinium, zirconium, dysprosium, lutetium, scandium, and yttrium. Neodymium iron boron permanent magnet materials containing zirconium and dysprosium are also listed as relevant controlled items.

Reuters reported that exporters must now apply for licenses from China's Ministry of Commerce, a relatively opaque process that can take from six to seven weeks to several months.



Why should China give special exemption to Musk's company ? It's an American company and he works for Trump's US gov.
 
Why should China give special exemption to Musk's company ? It's an American company and he works for Trump's US gov.
Both of Musk's mothers have settled in Shanghai. In a few years maybe Musk even switched to Chinese citizenship.
 
Both of Musk's mothers have settled in Shanghai. In a few years maybe Musk even switched to Chinese citizenship.
All his business are in US except a factory in Shanghai. I think he is a white supremacist.
 
Whats the difference between 145% and 200%? They are increasing the price, not us. It can be 1000% beyond a certain number it is meaningless. How is Vietnam licking going on? Lol
Trump recently puts 3,500% on solar panels.
I think you are right licking azz is not helpful.
Instead, we need a big stick.


Vietnam Tells China It’s Open to Joining BRICS
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Vietnam's communist party general secretary To Lam (R) and Chinese President Xi Jinping (L) attend a meeting at the Office of the Party Central Committee in Hanoi on April 14, 2025. (Photo by NHAC NGUYEN / POOL / AFP)
One of the interesting little nuggets buried deep in the 6,000+ word joint statement issued by China and Vietnam at the end of President Xi Jinping’s visit to Hanoi on Tuesday was a passing reference to Hanoi’s willingness to begin talks to join the BRICS group.
 
Why you are not asking countries such as Malaysia, Indonesia, South Korea and Japan in Asia why they have significant trade surpluses with China for many years ? First, countries have to produce products that Chinese consumers want.
you really think these countries have producing goods that Chinese consumers want. It is more like components and raw materials China needs to export other products
 
China is really smart to organize the global community to keep the existing global order of free trade to the benefit of developing nations along with China and Europe.
 
Now that US bond rates have risen to close to 5%, countries including Japan and the UK are dumping US debt, and China hasn't even begun to do so yet.
Sorry to say hits to the treasury yields could be short term, the Federal Reserve has a history of purchasing trillions in US debt to manipulate the bond market.

The real resistance is the gold and precious metals markets, the commodity markets, the currency forex trades. You want the dollar weakened. You want precious metals to out perform bitcoin and the dollar to new gold highs. You want stagflation for the US economy with higher commodity prices. Don't got 100% into gold, do steady buying to new highs and be ready to buy massive dips. When gold is going up a lot, buy silver to new highs.
 
'traditionally' Chinese Products are considered 'cheap' as compared to Western one, in case of price and quality both🙂
Indian industries would be encouraged to better cheap imported Asian products 👍
Lol, really, why you don't buy from the west instead of buying from China like there's no tomorrow?
 
you really think these countries have producing goods that Chinese consumers want. It is more like components and raw materials China needs to export other products

Yup correct, more on raw material, components


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Some example

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The Division of Plants, through the Turbine Components Plant in Cilegon, again exported power generation components.

This time, PT Barata Indonesia (Persero) exported the components of the Silo Combustion Chamber to Zhoushan, China.

The silo Combustion Chamber is from Zhejiang Petrochemical Co. Ltd to be used in the Zhoushan GT 20 project.

For 2021, Barata Indonesia has bagged several power generation component projects. Previously, Barata Indonesia also participated in the “Smart Energy Center” power plant project owned by the South Korean company, SK Hynix located in Cheongju.

 
How the Trump administration has played this is truly unfathomably idiotic.

Start a trade war with the entire world.

Put massive tariffs on critical goods from China. Create an economic crisis at home.

China predictably fights back and cuts off critical supplies of rare earths which will destroy America's supply chain.

Get a financial crisis in the stock and treasury markets.

China won't pick up the phone.

Unilaterally remove tariffs on China.

Try to tell the entire world to backstab China while you are down.

Tell China you want to be nice and to get that knife off your throat.

Given that the Trump administration has put itself in a corner while making it clear once it gets out of that corner, it will come for China's throat, what incentive does China even have to help him? This is truly stupid to an unfathomable level.
 
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And China is dependent upon exports to keep its economy running. It doesn't have the option of not exporting.

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Why India can only grin and bear Trump’s tantrums while China roars back​

Prasanna Mohanty
11 Apr 2025 7:37 PM (Updated:12 Apr 2025 10:38 AM)

Modi Trump Xi, India China US

Donald Trump says countries are “dying to make a deal” with America. China, clearly, is not on the list.

Do you know why China is aggressively hitting back at the US with counter-tariffs (“fight till the end”) and is responding in kind to Trump’s latest salvo of 125 per cent tariff, unlike any other major economy, including India, or group of nations like the EU?

The EU has proposed a counter-tariff of 25 per cent against the US but is likely to back off after Trump hit a 90-day pause and lowered reciprocal tariff to 10 per cent for all, except China. It is a different matter that Trump told investors that “this is a great time to buy” — hours before he put the pause button that led stock markets to soar.

China can fight back because it has built itself into a powerhouse of manufacturing, technology and exports.

Bloomberg’s David Fickling writes, “The world’s biggest manufacturer has spent decades building an economy that’s already largely war-proofed against blowback from its own trade practices”, particularly after Trump 1.0 launched the first trade war against it in 2018.

China’s share of US imports has gone up by 4 percentage points to 18.5 per cent since then, while the US share of exports to China slipped by 6.6 percentage points to 17.2 per cent.

Fickling further writes that China dominates US imports in all categories — from smartphones and computers to games consoles to furniture to toys and clothing — while the US is relatively a minor supplier to China, except for jet engines and, to a limited extent, soya.

Higher tariffs against China will, therefore, hit American consumers who have seen four years of high inflation and two-decade-long high interest rates; China’s retaliatory tariff will hit American producers going through the third year of producer price deflation.

Meanwhile, Fickling notes, China has built ties with other trading nations to broaden and diversify its markets for exports, unlike the US.

Others have noted that China, a major buyer of US agricultural produce, diversified imports from Brazil and increased its domestic production of soya, corn, beef, pork, wheat, sorghum, etc., to reduce its dependence on the US.

US data shows that its trade deficit with China may have fallen from $375 billion in 2017 and $418 billion in 2018, but at $295 billion in 2024, it is still very high.

China also leads the biggest trading bloc — the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP), including the 10 ASEAN members and its free trade agreement (FTA) partners like Japan, Korea, Australia, and New Zealand. This bloc has a global share of 28.8 per cent in trade and 30 per cent in GDP.

After 2018, it set up manufacturing bases in Mexico and other Latin American countries to access the US market, and in Turkiye, Nigeria, and Morocco to access the European markets to beat both trade barriers and the China+1 strategy (Economic Survey 2023-24).

It is now doing so in Vietnam to access the Indian market, and signed nine economic and technical agreements with Bangladesh last month. No wonder, India is worried about the dumping of Chinese goods as a big fallout of Trump’s tariff war.

Ironically, China and India began their economic reform journey together, in the 1980s. The two started at virtually the same levels in size, per-capita income, and inequality.

But today, China is the number one in

(a) manufacturing (global share of 28.8 per cent against India’s 2.8 per cent in 2023

(b) exports of goods (global share of 14 per cent against India’s 1.8 per cent in 2023)

(c) emerging high-tech (leads the world in 37 of 44 technologies in defence, space, robotics, semiconductors, renewable energy, biotechnology, AI, quantum technology, etc.) and science

China’s GDP, at $17.75 trillion, is five times India’s $3.57 trillion (current USD) in 2023. Despite additional (recent) sops such as corporate tax cut and PLI subsidies, India's manufacturing remains flat at 17.2 per cent of GVA in FY25, as it was in FY14. Goods exports fell to 17 per cent of GDP in FY23 (up to which NAS data is available), from 17 per cent in FY14.

India has shunned all mega trading blocs — both the US-led CPTPP (the US walked out of it in 2017), which was formed to isolate China, and China’s counter to it, the RCEP. Now, China is trying to join the CPTPP.

Meanwhile, the US started the Indo-Pacific Economic Framework for Prosperity (IPEF) in 2022. India signed up, but stayed out of its trade pillar. The Economic Survey of 2023-24 argued that India must join the RCEP to boost manufacturing, develop global value chains (GVCs), check trade and tech deficits and check “potential supply disruptions” and “risk of economic coercion…for political leverage” by China. But the government ignored it.

India is renegotiating all its bilateral FTAs, managing to conclude only four during 2021-24 — Mauritius, Australia, the UAE, and the Trade and Economic Partnership Agreement (TEPA) signed with the European Free Trade Association (EFTA). A World Bank report of 2024 said the impact for the first three “remains to be determined” and dismissed the fourth as “relatively limited in scope”.

Faced with imminent US tariff threats, India woke up in 2025 to resume bilateral FTA renegotiations — with the EU after eight years, with the UK after eight months, with New Zealand after 10 years, and with the US, the first bilateral trade talk (BTA) began a few days ago.

These bilateral FTA talks have become far more complicated after the “reciprocal” tariffs. For example, like the US, the EU demands zero tariff on cars. The EU has an old score to settle, too, along with Japan and Taiwan — as India lost its case in the WTO in May 2023 over erecting tariff barriers (of 7.5–20 per cent on ICT products, while the WTO mandated 0 per cent).

That India erected trade and non-trade barriers (license-permit raj for laptops/PCs, wheat, rice, sugar, pulses, gold, steel, etc., and also quality-control orders) are known — prompting Trump to call India “tariff king” and “big abuser” of trade ties and attracting the USTR’s ire.

India is not sure whether it wants trade in local currencies with non-US countries or not — as a safeguard against USD dominance. First, it committed to this for BRICS nations in 2024, then backtracked when Trump threatened retaliation — only to revive it in the BIMSTEC talk on April 5.

Trade in local currency among BRICS makes sense — India, China, Russia, Brazil, the UAE and other members constitute 37.3 per cent of global GDP (more than double of EU’s 14.5 per cent) and 40 per cent of global exports and crude oil production. Not so much for BIMSTEC, a minor grouping of Bangladesh, India, Myanmar, Sri Lanka and Thailand.

All the above are relevant to any discussion on India’s trade vulnerabilities or future direction.

Trump 2.0 has made global trade unpredictable and chaotic, through unilateral decisions and flip-flops. India can’t breathe easy, as the US threatened higher tariff on other “bad actors” while hitting the pause button in which India was clubbed with Vietnam, Japan, and Korea.

Then, the White House said “more than 75 countries” had called in to negotiate tariffs. Trump said countries were “dying to make a deal”. A US trade representative said India was among 50 countries willing to lower tariffs. The White House warned against retaliatory tariffs by posting on X on April 9: “Do not retaliate and you will be rewarded.”

What the above indicates is that there could be many like India willing to sweeten the deals by buying American oil, gas, and weapons like F-35 or give a free pass to Trump’s ally Elon Musk. Some are already offering to buy US agricultural produce — which would be hit after China, its biggest market, pulls out. This is to be expected because the US is the most powerful economic and political entity.

Global value chains also come into the picture. These can neither be built, dismantled or rearranged overnight to establish new global trading routes or markets. Here also, India is on weak ground because its presence is very low, even in the Asia-Pacific region.

All the above factors would determine whether India can find alternative markets for its US-bound exports for future stability and predictability — counter-intuitive as it may sound from its own unpredictable, unstable trade policies.

The Federal reached out to three eminent trade experts to find alternative markets for Indian exports bound for the US. All were unequivocal in their response: None.

That probably explains why no expert or trade think tank has prepared any such list yet.

Ajay Srivastava, founder of the Global Trade Research Initiative (GTRI), said: “Had there been alternatives, we would have already exported more, not waited.” For him, the major hurdle in the top export categories to the US — electrical, telecom and electronics in first place and jewellery in third — is “low value addition”. The US has held off reciprocal tariff for pharmaceuticals, which is in second.

The GTRI’s February 2025 report listed the low-value-addition items such as iPhones, solar panels, diamonds, and petrochemicals, and said that “after accounting for PLI incentives and other concessions, the real earnings are close to zero”. Low value addition means little gain from exports.

Biswajit Dhar, former director of EXIM Bank and member of the GOI’s Board of Trade, said: “Nobody can give you that (alternative) on a platter; solution will have to be found on a case-to-case basis or tailor-made.”

His lament is that India doesn’t have a Plan B or initiative; it didn’t take forward its ‘Look East’ and ‘South-South Cooperation’ initiatives or engage with Africa (no bilateral FTA or negotiations with the African Union). On the other hand, businesses are hanging on to the government’s coat-tail.

A former top India trade negotiator, requesting anonymity, told The Federal that all countries were equally anxious over the US’s tariffs and its changing contours for any clarity to emerge anytime soon. The only new market he could foresee for the future is (neglected) Africa.

Perhaps the only leeway that India could have is by re-routing, re-distribution, or diversion of goods though countries with a favourable trade deal with the US. But this has been nixed by the Commerce and Industry Ministry. On April 9, ministry officials cautioned exporters against it to avoid retaliatory US action.

Trade experts point out that China adopted this strategy after the US’s first trade war of 2018, using Vietnam and Mexico for re-routing.

Given all the chaos Trump 2.0 has spread, it is easier to understand Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Chandrababu Naidu’s predicament. The only chief minister who has taken up the cause of his state’s exporters, he has asked the Centre to get the US to exempt shrimp exports. Andhra Pradesh contributes a bulk of such export and Trump’s tariff has jolted the shrimp farmers, with harvesting halted, purchases frozen, and prices plummeting.

But that (exemption) would be possible only when the BTA negotiations are concluded — expected in autumn (September-October) — and may involve opening up the Indian market for US farm produce. That is sure to spark strong protests from farmers.

Source:
https://thefederal.com/the-federal-...trumps-tantrums-while-china-roars-back-181226
 

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