Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[the vicious kind]

Ignoring the ongoing trash talks from both sides

Guys listen closely .. The region is headed towards a medium scale military conflict (like 1965) at the very least ( i will explain why in the next post)

1. Both India and Pakistan have fired their opening shots
– Suspending treaties, removing diplomatic staff, airspace closures. Your usual pre-war posturing.

2. Next up:
– Suspension of the cease-fire agreement and the resumption of border skirmishes (likely in the next 2 days).

3. Escalation continues:
– Targeted cross-border raids and artillery duels along the Line of Control (LoC) (3–6 days).

4. Patial Mobilization :
– Forward troop movement, limited airspace violations, and tactical drone deployments.
– Naval assets begin silent posturing in the Arabian Sea.

5. Strike exchange begins:
– Coordinated airstrikes, missile launches on logistics hubs, command centers, and radar installations.
– Short of total war, but both sides will flex precision strike capabilities

6. International players intervene:
– US, China, Russia, and GCC push for urgent de-escalation. But unless both sides see an exit ramp, the momentum will continue. Pakistan might fold most likely, if India resumes IWC in exchange for Hafiz Saeed.

7. Stalemate or spiral:
-If intervention fails, Full mobilzation and intense military engagement like 1965, 71 wars. This could lead to either Ukraine-Russia type scenerio or escalate to limited nuclear conflict.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

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[That_Guy]

Technical details aside, what is bottom line if events go in direction you advocate for, pakistan will become full slave of india, they are chipping away one piece of your county political corner stones at the time and you go always with that attitude "decades ahead of potential" damage, those will pass fast and future generations will curse you why did you bring them in such position.
Sometimes you have to draw line no matter of consequences.

I didn't advocate for any particular solution.

I don't know why you're making an argument based upon something I never said, or did.

Your solution would lead to the deaths of tens of thousands of Pakistanis and Indian civilians due to flooding, and THEN would lead to war.

And what will you do then? As it is, India is far better suited to fighting a long term war than Pakistan, and they will absolutely turn it into a long term conflict.

China would save you.

The US won't save you.

What will you do?

Its easy to be jingoistic behind a computer screen, but are you actually willing to take a bullet to the head of a war you know could have been avoided with no real losses?

As it is, my stance is that after things calm down, things will go back to status quo.

Nothing will happen, that is my stance.

 

[the vicious kind]

Ignoring the ongoing trash talks from both sides

Guys listen closely .. The region is headed towards a medium scale military conflict (like 1965) at the very least ( i will explain why in the next post)

1. Both India and Pakistan have fired their opening shots
– Suspending treaties, removing diplomatic staff, airspace closures. Your usual pre-war posturing.

2. Next up:
– Suspension of the cease-fire agreement and the resumption of border skirmishes (likely in the next 2 days).

3. Escalation continues:
– Targeted cross-border raids and artillery duels along the Line of Control (LoC) (3–6 days).

4. Patial Mobilization :
– Forward troop movement, limited airspace violations, and tactical drone deployments.
– Naval assets begin silent posturing in the Arabian Sea.

5. Strike exchange begins:
– Coordinated airstrikes, missile launches on logistics hubs, command centers, and radar installations.
– Short of total war, but both sides will flex precision strike capabilities

6. International players intervene:
– US, China, Russia, and GCC push for urgent de-escalation. But unless both sides see an exit ramp, the momentum will continue. Pakistan might fold most likely, if India resumes IWC in exchange for Hafiz Saeed.

7. Stalemate or spiral:
-If intervention fails, Full mobilzation and intense military engagement like 1965, 71 wars. This could lead to either Ukraine-Russia type scenerio or escalate to limited nuclear conflict.

India knows that a 2019-style surgical strike won't achieve much — it won’t ease domestic pressure or satisfy the public demand for a strong response. This time around, they’re not blaming a non-state actor like LeJ — they’re pointing fingers directly at the Pakistan Army and the COAS.

Unlike before, India understands that limited strikes won't change the equation. While they don’t hold a significant qualitative edge over Pakistan in terms of airpower, they do have a numerical advantage across multiple domains — air, artillery, and manpower.

Given the public narrative, internal political climate, and military calculations, India is more likely to opt for a broader, more sustained conflict, rather than a quick, symbolic strike.

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

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I didn’t have the energy listen to him ….. hopefully someone can!

I dont know whats more nauseating listen to this idiot, or the screeching attention whores over the border

 

[That_Guy]

Ignoring the ongoing trash talks from both sides

Guys listen closely .. The region is headed towards a medium scale military conflict (like 1965) at the very least ( i will explain why in the next post)

1. Both India and Pakistan have fired their opening shots
– Suspending treaties, removing diplomatic staff, airspace closures. Your usual pre-war posturing.

2. Next up:
– Suspension of the cease-fire agreement and the resumption of border skirmishes (likely in the next 2 days).

3. Escalation continues:
– Targeted cross-border raids and artillery duels along the Line of Control (LoC) (3–6 days).

4. Patial Mobilization :
– Forward troop movement, limited airspace violations, and tactical drone deployments.
– Naval assets begin silent posturing in the Arabian Sea.

5. Strike exchange begins:
– Coordinated airstrikes, missile launches on logistics hubs, command centers, and radar installations.
– Short of total war, but both sides will flex precision strike capabilities

6. International players intervene:
– US, China, Russia, and GCC push for urgent de-escalation. But unless both sides see an exit ramp, the momentum will continue. Pakistan might fold most likely, if India resumes IWC in exchange for Hafiz Saeed.

7. Stalemate or spiral:
-If intervention fails, Full mobilzation and intense military engagement like 1965, 71 wars. This could lead to either Ukraine-Russia type scenerio or escalate to limited nuclear conflict.

Nothing is going to happen.

Military planners on both sides know this won't end well for either side.

You're fear mongering.

There is going to be a period of nationalistic ferver, leading to major back door diplomatic efforts, and finally off ramping of tensions.

There is going to be no short, medium, or long term wars, because neither side can afford it.

Modi for all his bluster doesn't actually want a war because it would destroy India's economy.

Shahbaz Sharif and Asim Munir for all their incompetence know that Pakistan cannot afford a war for the same reason.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Quite interesting analysis on the Pak Chief by MI6. He is a folk who's gonna retaliate with a singularity of purpose.....

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[RAJPUT]

Is this your method or way of debating respectfully? Why lower yourself to this level?
Debate with respect or I will remove you.
Message not just to you…….
Times are sensitive and tempers are running high.
Don’t let patriotism and anger take over common sense - try to refrain from posting nonsense or abuse. I don’t want to ban so please all - calm down….

Noted. I will delete my message.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

Muzhe kyu bol re o ?

I'm predicting kuch ni karna ae, in terms of cross border action in Pak vs either the Pak fauj directly, or against any groups.

Actually with Pakistan on this one, these were radicalized locals, and that their network within our slice of Kashmir must be dismantled.

Airstrikes or any direct action inside Pak will be counterproductive.

No such thing as radicalised locals, you oppress them and they lash out in defiance. Indians are infamous for cowardly attacks like raping and killing children as a weapon of war against a defenceless population.

 

[Whirling_dervesh]

Jingoism aside, i really hope the rank and file of the armed forces are ready for full scale engagement.

My worry is the senior generals and establishment were so embroiled in their political machinations over the last few years that they took their eye of the battlefield. Any progressive nations army should be in the barracks and their only

The Airforce being the exception. The Army should know their job is war not politics.

Galvanising the whole nation is imperative on a national security and existential threat.

but the generals should know you cannot hunt with the hounds and run with the hares at the same time.

 

[That_Guy]

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I dont mean the already built dams but if India builds more dams on our rivers, we should destroy them before they're built as this will starve us from water, ofcourse this will lead to all out war. Or Pakistan can just continue to complain and let India control the narrative. We are being cornered. From the map it looks the destroyed dam will also flood Indian occupied Kashmir.

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The Indians don't care if a bunch of Kashmiri Muslims die.

Also, destroying those dams would directly lead to war. There won't be "increasing tensions" and then India backing off. India will literally launch a full scale war, and do you honestly think Pakistan will be able to win against those human waves that India will throw at Pakistan?

 

[r3alist]

As it is, my stance is that after things calm down, things will go back to status quo.

Nothing will happen, that is my stance.

We can all have our stance, but some are more real than others ....India can dry Pakistan out.....THAT has happened

How on earth do you imagine previous status quo when the one thing that has been status quo is no longer there

That one thing, ivt, is existential to Pakistan and India happens to be in a murderous rage

Honestly you may as well give up now and ask for better terms

 

[Baadil]

The plot thickens...

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I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this is pretty damning.

Does it not look AI generated to you?

 

[That_Guy]

Quite interesting analysis on the Pak Chief by MI6. He is a folk who's gonna retaliate with a singularity of purpose.....

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I have doubts.

Can't find any source on this claim.

 

[the vicious kind]

Nothing is going to happen.

Military planners on both sides know this won't end well for either side.

You're fear mongering.

There is going to be a period of nationalistic ferver, leading to major back door diplomatic efforts, and finally off ramping of tensions.

There is going to be no short, medium, or long term wars, because neither side can afford it.

Modi for all his bluster doesn't actually want a war because it would destroy India's economy.

Shahbaz Sharif and Asim Munir for all their incompetence know that Pakistan cannot afford a war for the same reason.

I am not fear-mongering. My opinion is grounded in the reality that a 2019-style surgical strike won’t achieve much for India — it won’t ease internal pressure or satisfy public demand for a decisive response. This time, their approach feels more calculated and agenda-driven, unlike the impulsive, knee-jerk reaction we saw back in 2019.

Just take a hard look at where we stand today as a country. We’re in a far worse position than we were back then. The GCC no longer has our back, and China is openly furious over the repeated failures to protect their engineers and investments on our soil.

Our armed forces are stretched thin — deployed on multiple fronts externally, and internally bogged down in KPK and Balochistan. From India’s perspective, the timing couldn’t be more ideal. The stars have aligned for them to strike when we’re most vulnerable.