Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Rollno21]

This imagined loophole was not used through wars, nuclear testing and other volatile scenarios


Given the immediate, abrupt and unilateral ending of the ivt from Indias side any loophole point is an irrelevant arguement

India did not even formally bother to argue the loophole, they just ended the treaty

If you believed in the "loophole" you could have argued it first


That would leave India looking much better, state your case.

Common sir, we have being asking Pakistan for iwt renegotiation for over a year and Pakistan refused to respond. You cannot blame us for that, we tried

 

[Developereo]

PTI Vs army.....

This whole PTI v/s Army debate should be left out of this discussion.

 

[vasanthm]

India cannot simply violate the IWT without facing potential legal, diplomatic, and reputational consequences. The treaty has specific mechanisms for addressing concerns and disputes, and unilateral action goes against the principles of international law governing treaties. The recent announcement by India to hold the treaty in abeyance is a significant development that remains to be seen how it will unfold within the framework of the IWT and international relations between the two countries.

You are in no position to violate an internationally brokered and signed agreement. This isn't mallu masala evening where you can just decide whatever you like.

we are ok the face the 'consequences'

 

[r3alist]

What sense are you guys (Pakistani and Indian) are getting over there? Is there a sense that some conflict is going to start and escalate or a nothing burger more likely?

It cannot be a nothing burger after ivt ending

There are some people here who think because missiles are not flying now and water is still flowing all is fine

 

[NA71]

Pakistan now wants to blame ISIS for the terror attack. Probably feeling too much heat.

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No heat at all, brother. We have no interest in the media, and nobody even tries to watch it for information and updates ...."when it comes....dekh lein gay phir".

 

[Rollno21]

The right of down stream countries over the river water is not linked to any conditions, terrorism, or national security. It is the basic right of all humans, populations, and nations without requiring any justification. If India breaks the treaty or even tries to blackmail Pakistan, we have the will, resources, and power to cripple India as a state and forcefully get our water. There is no compromise on our lifeline. If Indians have any doubts about it, they can happily try and test their stupidity even now by cancelling this treaty.

There is no point arguing what you have not have, iwt like 370 is done deal. India cannot stop water flowing to Pakistan completely. You will get your fare share of water. And in future you cannot blame us for global warming as you know the drinking water availability is reducing every year.

 

[NA71]

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No surprise ...we all know that ...war is the best business for USA

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Quite realistic reasons behind Bharat's recent false flag ops, which she has been doing since time immemorial......

Bharat, thy name is the false flag ops. And, every intelligence service in the world is well versed in Bharat's false flag ops against her neighbors....

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[r3alist]

Common sir, we have being asking Pakistan for iwt renegotiation for over a year and Pakistan refused to respond. You cannot blame us for that, we tried

That's not the same as a loophole position

You are saying you want to amend the ivt right now , the other is saying it's ok to walk away from it as there is a loophole, two different things



Ultimately the manner of the ending is in a completely hostile context matched with appalling rhetoric, if there was a loophole you would of course just cite it. But this was done as a measure to punish Pakistan, this was in response to an attack

In the taxonomy of arguments the existential one comes out on top and makes it simple

A water treaty was ended to punish the other nation.

If you backtrack now you guys are losing your balls already as you come down from your sugar rush.

 

[Dalit]

What sense are you guys (Pakistani and Indian) are getting over there? Is there a sense that some conflict is going to start and escalate or a nothing burger more likely?

How do you connect the dots?

 

[Dalit]

You do what you got to do ..then we will do what we have to.

Lets see who survives.

Don't you worry. We will do whatever is necessary. Even if that means going to war and beyond.

 

[Rollno21]

That's not the same as a loophole position

You are saying you want to amend the ivt right now , the other is saying it's ok to walk away from it as there is a loophole, two different things



Ultimately the manner of the ending is in a completely hostile context matched with appalling rhetoric, if there was a loophole you would of course just cite it. But this was done as a measure to punish Pakistan, this was in response to an attack

In the taxonomy of arguments the existential one comes out on top and makes it simple

A water treaty was ended to punish the other nation.

If you backtrack now you guys are losing your balls already as you come down from your sugar rush.

No sir, you said you wrote "India did not even formally bother to argue the loophole, they just ended the treaty".

For the above part is for which I replied. When you don't respond to previous requests. You cannot blame us saying you could have requested again this time as it's for different situation.

 

[Dalit]

we are ok the face the 'consequences'

No you are not. JD Vance and Usha left in a hurry. You didn't impress them.

 

[Rollno21]

Don't you worry. We will do whatever is necessary. Even if that means going to war and beyond.

What ever you, even by war, iwt is done and dusted. You will get what is your fair share of water even with out treaty.

 

[gamaji]

There is no point arguing what you have not have, iwt like 370 is done deal. India cannot stop water flowing to Pakistan completely. You will get your fare share of water. And in future you cannot blame us for global warming as you know the drinking water availability is reducing every year.

No Pakistani cares about 370 thingy. We never accepted it at all. Indian governments keep playing with people of India. Neither the people of J&K nor Pak people accepted 370 or even that fake document of accession. UN resolutions were passed and Indian promises were made much later, effectively overriding all previous bogus documents and illegal accession.
As for the water treaty, we are not begging for anything from India. Indians cannot divert any, I mean any, water from the three rivers that we got under that treaty. India can have limited storage capacity purely for electricity generation and that's all. If India steals any of our water, we will not allow that at any cost. Who cares if you get a veto member in world bank. We have our own veto power at least in this region.