Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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Pakistan has credible intelligence, they should preempt and attack indian command and control structures to throw off their plans
We won't give them a chance to paint us as the bad guys. They want that to happen....
 
bhai muttor dale hai Samosay mai , Bina Aaloo ki Biryani nai de rahe, han ager bina aalo ki Biryani hoti tu " Ghuari chala do ", nai chaiye yeh duniya aur esi Biryani.
Yaar being a lahori, my favorite is biryani master (don’t judge me guys) aur yahan I tried this Hyderabadi biryani which apparently is the best, it is NOT, it’s all elaichi no spice no aloo and no umami.
 
Problem with this will be that if Pakistan couldn't t take back IOK than the azaab of Indian forces will be on Kashmiri's, they will burn the valley to the ground, the only way Pakistan can win the IOK front is if the Kashmiri's themselves stand up, look at Afghan war for example, despite American training, weapons, everything Afghan soldiers have shot many Americans, and run away with their guns. Only Pakistan can't take back Kashmir, they have to do something a bloody civil war because only then the world will take their side.

But Modi's actions of revoking Articles 370 and 35A have indeed alienated Kashmiris like never before; had it not been the case then India wouldn't still need hundreds of thousands of security personnel in IoK.
Kashmiris will have to win their freedom but with substantial Pakistani help. If Pakistan doesn't take IoK or create a deterrence to prevent India from using water as weapon then Pakistan would remain a perpetual target of Indian blackmails.
 
Poor SC bahi having to inject some sense in the thread amongst all our S***posting.

Sorry @The SC brother, this is how Pakistanis deal with crisis, we laugh about it until the time comes to pick up our shovels and pitchforks.
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Let me get back on war mode, serious War face put on...
 
Update......Commander of Indian forces in IOK LT Gen MVS Kumar terminated and arrested, He raise doubts on false flag operation and refuse to use forces under his command to attack Azad Kashmir.

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it means a divided command. It'll have damning ramification across the officers' corps. It's a recipe for a disaster....

In the subcontinental context the most of the folks in the army are the main breadwinners in their families. They definitely are worried and confused with tons of doubts in their minds for they know what's at stake in their lives to fight to uphold the inflated ego of the super rich RSS Hindutva leaders and their stooges....
 
But Modi's actions of revoking Articles 370 and 35A have indeed alienated Kashmiris like never before; had it not been the case then India wouldn't still need hundreds of thousands of security personnel in IoK.
Kashmiris will have to win their freedom but with substantial Pakistani help. If Pakistan doesn't take IoK or create a deterrence to prevent India from using water as weapon then Pakistan would remain a perpetual target of Indian blackmails.
That is exactly my point, with IWT the game is changed forever, and Kashmiri's should take heed, look at what Modi is doing with Muslims in Indian states other than Kashmir, sooner or later they will try to change the demography of Kashmir, now we also need some Insaan ke bache and strong leadership in Pakistan, this conflict will change a lot of things for sure, and also determine the nature of future conflicts between the two nations.
 
Poor SC bahi having to inject some sense in the thread amongst all our S***posting.

Sorry @The SC brother, this is how Pakistanis deal with crisis, we laugh about it until the time comes to pick up our shovels and pitchforks.
And when that time comes sir, we say to them in our fashion ‘nawan aya sohniya?’ Lol
 
Update......Commander of Indian forces in IOK LT Gen MVS Kumar terminated and arrested, He raise doubts on false flag operation and refuse to use forces under his command to attack Azad Kashmir.

@RescueRanger
His entire core refused to fight. They ordered two brigades from South instead.
 
Israel has supplied heavy duty jammers and ESM sensors for Indian military. Don't be surprised if gsm/gps dies on either side.
I am pretty sure the PAF side has got big toys too! Just as an academic curiosity, are the pilots trained well in the old-style WVR regime in the midst of extremely jammed EM environment?
 
Israel has supplied heavy duty jammers and ESM sensors for Indian military. Don't be surprised if gsm/gps dies on either side.

It wouldn't surprise me one bit and is quite worrying. Pakistan can deal with India but Israel brings an array of technologies, intelligence info AND American resources to this conflict.
But I hope Israel is not too deep in it: Pakistan generally stayed out of the Israel-Gaza conflict except for diplomatic statements and some aid sent to the Palestinians.

Pakistanis have been always aware of the deep dependence on the Americans and their allies for Pakistan's economy AND of the threat to Pakistan's east which would be amplified if Israel gets too involved; even without Israeli involvement, Pakistan's low resources are to defend Pakistan against India. Those are the two main reasons for Pakistan to not get too involved in the Middle East events and I had tried to convey those in the Israel-Gaza conflict thread for the last 18 months on this forum.
 
His entire core refused to fight. They ordered two brigades from South instead.
It surmounts to a mutiny! If it ramifies further it means the end of a professional force!! All the good work of the British has gone down the drain. Modi hai to Mumkin hai....
 
In case of war. What is Pakistan goal here?
Only defend with offensive attacks? Not a single discussion of taking kashmir this time.

I know it's hard and almost impossible to even takeover a mountain rather than region and cities but still.

Do we think Pakistan will try to liberate kashmir?
We will now simply slaughter as many Indians as possible. There is no other objective. India had the opportunity to facilitate consideration of alternative war objectives for us, but that window has now passed. Does India understand what it has done?
 
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