Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates
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All Block 1's have been upgraded to Block II's. You will still see Block 1 serials, but the key to look for is the changes to strengthen the wings which was a Block II change.
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It is a good idea to attack pandit mandirs if India attacks religious seminaries.
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If you said this before russian ukraininian war i would agree 100% in order to cling on western financial system completely, nower days i am not sure if it is wise decision.
Once you expose your wealth/assets you are not in control of it, if you want stringed economic growth dictated by west then you should do so as you said.
What is more important for you is ability of the state to reach into pockets of wealthy people and lay off burden of the poor ones, i would start from there.
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I listened to the chat with AM Amir Masood. I think the key thing (known even before this interview) is that there is no tactical/kinetic situation in which India has an overmatch advantage over Pakistan and perhaps in some cases, we have an overmatch of a capability. The reversal of the course by INS Vikrant is an example of this because they realized the carrier would be a sitting duck with its air arm not able to hold off PAF's VLAAM capability which eventually could lead to AshM hits on the carrier itself.
The talk about a month long war (which can happen) is diminished because it would not be in India's interest to lower the nuclear threshold for Pakistan (and the reality is that neither side has the stamina to keep up a very high tempo conflict at scale raging for a long time. This was seen in 1965, 1971 etc.).
For those that may be interested, check out Praveen Swami's interview with Lt Gen Panag where the latter said that this will be a tit for tat affair because Pakistan will respond to any or everything we throw at them. Thus the point about raising the cost for Pakistan can perhaps be understood in the following manner:
India's military planners, who I am sure have communicated this to Modi/Godi et-al, know Pakistan will respond with equal and perhaps more ferocity to their attack, so they have built into their calculations, Pakistan's military response. So what outcome will they get out of this?
In my mind, they want it to be a big enough inconvenience for Pakistan and raise the cost in terms of the run up/prep for hostilities but not go across IB etc. Second, they would want to have verifiable evidence of Pakistani blood being shed to placate the frothing at the mouth revenge/war hysteria at home. Any civilian or military deaths in Pakistan would evoke a very strong response so this part of their action would lead the two to go up the rungs on the escalation ladder, but the idea on the Indian side is they need to shed Pakistan blood (as if they haven't already been shedding Pakistani blood through their proxies). But this is the demand of the brainwashed masses in India which they may come to regret.
Above aside, firing across LoC, raids, the usual escalations at the tactical level etc. would be heated up. They may also use stand-off/ALCM etc. on select targets but what needs to be seen is what targets they choose. If they hit Pakistani military targets beyond the positions on the LoC, like brigade/formation HQs, ammunition, logistics facilities then this will be a far more serious escalation and Pakistan's response will put them in a very tight situation as they will be forced into yet another reaction cycle and this is the escalation ladder that neither side can control.
India would consider it an episodic win if they can raise the cost for this build-up on the Pakistan side along with some claims of having drawn blood on our/AK side to placate local audience. In response, they expect to be hit, and the most significant issue is that they CANNOT control the escalation ladder once that happens. So this is a pretty big gamble.
The talk about a month long war (which can happen) is diminished because it would not be in India's interest to lower the nuclear threshold for Pakistan (and the reality is that neither side has the stamina to keep up a very high tempo conflict at scale raging for a long time. This was seen in 1965, 1971 etc.).
For those that may be interested, check out Praveen Swami's interview with Lt Gen Panag where the latter said that this will be a tit for tat affair because Pakistan will respond to any or everything we throw at them. Thus the point about raising the cost for Pakistan can perhaps be understood in the following manner:
India's military planners, who I am sure have communicated this to Modi/Godi et-al, know Pakistan will respond with equal and perhaps more ferocity to their attack, so they have built into their calculations, Pakistan's military response. So what outcome will they get out of this?
In my mind, they want it to be a big enough inconvenience for Pakistan and raise the cost in terms of the run up/prep for hostilities but not go across IB etc. Second, they would want to have verifiable evidence of Pakistani blood being shed to placate the frothing at the mouth revenge/war hysteria at home. Any civilian or military deaths in Pakistan would evoke a very strong response so this part of their action would lead the two to go up the rungs on the escalation ladder, but the idea on the Indian side is they need to shed Pakistan blood (as if they haven't already been shedding Pakistani blood through their proxies). But this is the demand of the brainwashed masses in India which they may come to regret.
Above aside, firing across LoC, raids, the usual escalations at the tactical level etc. would be heated up. They may also use stand-off/ALCM etc. on select targets but what needs to be seen is what targets they choose. If they hit Pakistani military targets beyond the positions on the LoC, like brigade/formation HQs, ammunition, logistics facilities then this will be a far more serious escalation and Pakistan's response will put them in a very tight situation as they will be forced into yet another reaction cycle and this is the escalation ladder that neither side can control.
India would consider it an episodic win if they can raise the cost for this build-up on the Pakistan side along with some claims of having drawn blood on our/AK side to placate local audience. In response, they expect to be hit, and the most significant issue is that they CANNOT control the escalation ladder once that happens. So this is a pretty big gamble.
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Hmm and your Chinese munitions will now take measurements with proper similar holes like some carpenter does before cutting something.... maybe possible as they are Chinese munitions after all with some hidden dragon technology.....
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The Indians are truly kidding themselves. For decades, India Pakistan relations have been frozen and literally non-existent. These measures don't mean a thing.
On the contrary, Pakistan banning Indian airlines from its airspace has a serious impact. Both in cost and travel time.
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