Israel’s Genocide in Gaza | 2023- till present

[VCheng]

This is how one side conducts itself with impunity and it’s not the Palestinians. There might be two sides but only one side that is actively stealing more land, killing with impunity, and playing victim as it seeks to colonize a people.

Actually, that is indeed true.

But war is war, and each side fights it as best as they can, using any and all means at their disposal. If there is no aceptable solution, then whichever side fights the war better will win, whoever it might be.

This does not mean the victor was right, or that the defeated were wrong, but that the outcome is decided on the basis of better strategy and never morality.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Actually, that is indeed true.

But war is war, and each side fights it as best as they can, using any and all means at their disposal. If there is no aceptable solution, then whichever side fights the war better will win, whoever it might be.

This does not mean the victor was right, or that the defeated were wrong, but that the outcome is decided on the basis of better strategy and never morality.

War might be war but let’s not ignore the realities on the ground that have been happening long before October 7. Israel wants all of Palestine and they will not stop till they achieve it even if there was or wasn’t an October 7.

That is the reality.

 

[VCheng]

That is the reality.

As I said, war is war.

Each side fights it as best as they can, using any and all means at their disposal.

If there is no aceptable solution, then whichever side fights the war better will win, whoever it might be.

This does not mean the victor was right, or that the defeated were wrong, but that the outcome is decided on the basis of better strategy and never morality.

So who has the better strategy here? That remains to be seen.

 

[Unknowntruth]

As I said, war is war.

Each side fights it as best as they can, using any and all means at their disposal.

If there is no aceptable solution, then whichever side fights the war better will win, whoever it might be.

This does not mean the victor was right, or that the defeated were wrong, but that the outcome is decided on the basis of better strategy and never morality.

So who has the better strategy here? That remains to be seen.

What can be acceptable about this criminal entity that wants all of Palestine without the Palestinians that they will do whatever it takes to achieve it?

The only solution Israel wants is Palestinians to leave their land and homes? Do you find that acceptable or realistic?

 

[VCheng]

What can be acceptable about this criminal entity that wants all of Palestine without the Palestinians that they will do whatever it takes to achieve it?

The only solution Israel wants is Palestinians to leave their land and homes? Do you find that acceptable or realistic?

What I personally find to be acceptable or realistic has nothing to do with reality.

If the Palestinians want to win, then merely being moral or justified will not suffice. Better strategy and use of whatever resources are available are all that matter on the ground.

Just be aware that the other side will do the same: use the best strategy and use all of their resources.

That is the reality of war, for as long as it continues. That is why it is always better to resolve matters if at all possible.

If it is not possible, then what I have already stated will remain true.

 

[Mobius]

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[Unknowntruth]

What I personally find to be acceptable or realistic has nothing to do with reality.

If the Palestinians want to win, then merely being moral or justified will not suffice. Better strategy and use of whatever resources are available are all that matter on the ground.

Just be aware that the other side will do the same: use the best strategy and use all of their resources.

That is the reality of war, for as long as it continues. That is why it is always better to resolve matters if at all possible.

If it is not possible, then what I have already stated will remain true.

You keep saying both will use all their resources. No one is disputing that.

The reality is that Palestinians have little to no resources at their disposal and are only waiting to be slaughtered when their time comes unless urgent action is taken by Muslims or international community.

We just can’t pretend that Israel wants a solution to coexist with Palestinians when the solution is for Palestinians to disappear.

 

[VCheng]

The reality is that Palestinians have little to no resources at their disposal and are only waiting to be slaughtered when their time comes unless urgent action is taken by Muslims or international community.

Well you said it. The Palestinians have a big problem that is for them to resolve, it seems to me.

Waiting for others to resolve one's problems usually does not work out very well.

 

[Unknowntruth]

Well you said it. The Palestinians have a big problem that is for them to resolve, it seems to me.

Waiting for others to resolve one's problems usually does not work out very well.

And how can Palestinian solve their own ethnic cleansing when they don’t have the means at their disposal?

 

[Khansaheeb]

Actually, that is indeed true.

But war is war, and each side fights it as best as they can, using any and all means at their disposal. If there is no aceptable solution, then whichever side fights the war better will win, whoever it might be.

This does not mean the victor was right, or that the defeated were wrong, but that the outcome is decided on the basis of better strategy and never morality.

An attack on prisoners is not war and nothing to boast or chest beat about. The Palestinians have been under colonial occupation since the Ottomans , the British and then the international network of racist criminal colonialists.

 

[PakFactor]

And how can someone you regard as the "house negro" ever hope to give you a logical answer that you would actually like instead of the emotional crutches and endless self-pitying so many other here provide you with?

After all, the utterly biased and incompetent Int Mod (and sometimes even the Admin) plaguing this forum has showed its pleasure at such choices of words for me many times.

Thanks for asking, but no, thanks, I will stop here.

I'm just going to chime in here, but VCheng, you've been at it for over a year, but you never once provided a road map of sorts or at least attempted to provide one.

 

[VCheng]

I'm just going to chime in here, but VCheng, you've been at it for over a year, but you never once provided a road map of sorts or at least attempted to provide one.

Chime in all you want, but do you really think what I could say as a solution would be understood here? I have been at nothing for a long time here since I scaled back my participation given its futility by my own choice.

On topic, I still do feel for the innocents caught up in this senselass war of attrition that continues unabated.

 

[PakFactor]

Chime in all you want, but do you really think what I could say as a solution would be understood here? I have been at nothing for a long time here since I scaled back my participation given its futility by my own choice.

On topic, I still do feel for the innocents caught up in this senselass war of attrition that continues unabated.

You could offer a solution, but you never did, or at least attempted to. I may know why, but your attempt to carve a neutral path doesn't hold promises either. In a conflict, a side often has to be chosen.

We all do feel for the civilians. It's a hand they were dealt, but again, solutions.

 

[VCheng]

You could offer a solution, but you never did, or at least attempted to. I may know why, but your attempt to carve a neutral path doesn't hold promises either. In a conflict, a side often has to be chosen.

We all do feel for the civilians. It's a hand they were dealt, but again, solutions.

The wisdom of my approach here is borne out by the self-defeating paradox buried within your own words above:

If one must choose a side in a conflict, then by definition any solution that one may propose will simply not be acceptable or even implementable for the other side due to its inherent bias.

Hence, anyone who retains the sanity and rationality necessary to remain logical and realistic cannot hope to present any solution in a forum that has clearly chosen (and enforces) their own preferred side in the conflict.

Thus, my decision to stop at this point is absolutely correct in this environment.

Just look at all the insults and rage thrown (and indeed encouraged) against me simply for daring to remain logical instead of emotional, and realistic instead of pie-in-the-sky idealistic, if you wish to reinforce my points further.

 

[LeGenD]

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