Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

From ISPR press conference...

"“It should also be noted that the Pakistan Armed Forces could have shot at even more than 10 of their aircraft but we exercised restraint,” the DG ISPR added"

... Never give up this puddu mentality. Why the **** are you exercising restraint. Motherfuckers even attack out water infrastructure and these donkeys want to exercise restraint. What did restraint gain you in 2019?!
 
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These conversaion from Mr Pingle in the thread "Deals for 26 Rafale-M Jets" is aging like red wine, initially I thought after years and multi billion dollars of investment, IAF is capable after adding Rafale and S-400 plus upgrading systems in EW domain, J-35 is needed for PAF to achieved total air domination like last night but well....lol.

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The export version of the S-400 has about 60 to 80% Chinese electronics. Just like with the Su-MKI the Russians sold the Indians a sub-par product. But it is very foolish to underestimate one's enemy. So Pakistan must assume that the S-400 is as dangerous as it is supposed to be.

Once the war breaks out and the Indians begin using the S400, unlease your response and leave these cowardly rats stunned and dumbfounded!
 
Bhai we are fighting and taking risk for what? the history proves that any 2 nations find peace after major wars, so if our respond force India to start a full scale war so be it, its not like Pakistan will break into pieces, Ukraine is holding up good against Russia, Plus from a purely strategic view If India invade Pakistan they need to have 3:1 ratio, plus their losses will be double, Pakistan can easily halt their advance and than launch their own offensive, but it won't even come to that as big powers and UN will stop the war, when both countries will sit in UNSC and explain their side of stories, we can negotiate IWT, India's role in Balochistan, etc but if we do nothing than India will claim victory, there won't be any normalization between Pakistan/India, plus more Attacks will surely happen in Kashmir and in years if not months we will be discussing the exact same thing over again.
IWT can only be negotiated when you start blowing up their dams. Short of that and India will ignore all Pakistani or International demands. The moment it sees billions of dollars in the free flowing river, it will definitely ask UNSC to help negotiate a new deal.
 
I wonder what will happen if another militant attack happens in India, today or tomorrow. Celebrations will quickly turn into mourning and anger. What will India do then. It has already lost deterrence after losing 5 planes. Modi is trapped.
It has not lost deterrence, it made around 20 hits, some deep in Pak.. via GLBM, ALBM and drones… unless Pak retaliates deep inside India, a new precedent has been set which will be used again in future..
Next time maybe they may use ground launched and drone based missiles only to avoid embarrassing aircraft losses..
 
India has struck a total of 21 sites inside Pakistan (India showed some images). An F-16 of the PAF downed a Rafale of the IAF during aerial clashes (not officially confirmed). This tweet was debunked though.
More likely F16 get downed if it ever encountered a Rafale. Old and obsolete because Pak's F16s were older batch. No AESA, no BVR missiles, no IRST when Rafale has all these.
 
This. This is a diplomatic win for Pakistan that US is agreeing we were never involved in that attack. Never been so happy. Alhamdulillah.
this also opens the gate for Pakistan to respond militarily in a manner that will still not escalate to full war. An opportunity we should not miss imo.
 

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