Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Based on OSINT, Walton has LY-80 battery. It could be a big loss in terms of area defence and could leave Lahore region without sufficient AD cover.
 
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It will act as a consolation prize for the Indians, while the Pakistanis can take pride in having downed five Indian jets. a win-win situation for both countries.

Meanwhile, the Chinese will emerge as the biggest beneficiaries of this conflict, with Pakistan having finally given their fighter jets the credibility they lacked for decades. Now, China can market them globally and thank Pakistan for this boost in reputation.

Someone said it correctly about a month ago, China's reputation is at stake with Pakistan so Pakistan do well in this fight. It will boost or damage China's defence industry.

This must end now as both countries don't want to see full scale war (except the fantasies of Modi and his blind followers)
 
The failure of the IAF caused terrible optics for India

Pakistans insistence on response has resulted in India being in a corner
You dont know the ground political mileage and optics of this incident in india.
 
there is a possibility that atleast a few would have found their targets and done some meaningful damage.

So the question now is ... why did india attack mainland Pakistani cities? To dismantle alleged terrorist infrastructure? The immediate official indian justification from india.

If that was the case then what is the need to drone attack random places in Pakistan? Is india and indians after their perceived terrorists or they wanted to attack Pakistani innocent civilians from the start?

It seems to that attacking and killing innocent Pakistani civilians was the goal from the start, the intent has always been to kill Pakistani citizens and to hide behind false flag attacks in india, generate false narratives and deceive the already ignorant indian masses (who basically are by virtue of their ideology and false beliefs ignorant extremists by the way).
 
I have no idea. Only the top leaders must be privy to it.

In any case no one is expected to spell out the exact plan and course of action openly. The cards are kept close to the chest and would unfold as other side makes it moves.

Now it would depend on what Paksiatn does.
Still, doesn't it bother you, attacking a sovereign nation over a false pretext, and expecting not to get a reply and releasing the statement that we will not escalate further and still doing so.

something fishy.
 
India doesn't want to wait for Pakistan to build up a big response

Especially after the IAFs humiliation
Humiliation is never of an entity or a section of a country but the entire nation.
India engaged targets (as claimed) 100s of kilometres inside paksiatn and paksiatn shot down Indian aircraft (as claimed).

What is bigger humiliation? I don’t know, because they can’t be weighed against each other in terms of Kgs or a quantity.

If Paksiatn is happy with this humiliation of the IAF then it is good for the region.
 
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Yar do we have drones to replicate Indian move....send them to near by Indian cities....replicate the action.

It appears that Indians sent one way suicide drones against our large cities housing military targets to add insult to injury. They are also trying to keep us on toes and playing quite effective mind games
 
There is still time before india launch full fledged war. Take me to china. Let me talk to ccp directly. I will negotiate some kind of deal. We can still save this country. Our government and people in armed forces aren’t capable to persuade Chinese to send their soldiers etc. let me talk to them. I sensed danger. Who will stop full fledged war? Remember Indian army doctrine. Either get ready to lose parts of pakistan or let someone talk to ccp directly. I think only china can save us now. Deal will include zero cooperation to United States in near future and giving parts of our Kashmir to china for 5 to 10 years just like we gifted Kashgsr valley etc. it will not be a permanent transfer, temporary just for our own safety so that our army can concentrate on punjab and sindh. India can’t do anything if we do this deal. Come on! Send helicopter or something. Let me help my country.

With this pathetic mindset, we can’t save pakistan. I don’t want to live under Indian controlled karachi. Try to understand. I am educated. I can speak English. You need right people right now. All
These diplomats officers they are totally useless. Even shah mehmood qureshi is an excellent negotiator but he is in jail.
Stop being a drama queen, your flooding the forum with your pathetic quivering cowardice. Watch and wait, show some bravery
 
Gun camera is just one thing.
AA missiles does have 2 way data link to transmit image of the target. Can you get some ?
Problem is the distance between the crash site and the incident side. PAF jet needs to enter Indian space to shoot the jet. So far no one has claimed this.
PL15E missiles have cameras? LOLOLOL. Do you know how BVR missiles work? They can shoot to kill IAF planes without even entering India.
 
Please share details
Dear there's also a lot of disinformation being spread around by disgruntled elements, one video I came across showing fire an explosion claiming as some drone strike but it turned out to be an old footage of some gas cylinder incident.
 

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