Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

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@Meengla sb,

what kind of support Pakistan, Turkey, China and whatnot can provide to Bangladesh

Fine about Pak, Turkey and China. All of you guys are genuine martial races and surely can give us a bloody nose if you fight in an alliance. As far as BDs go, they have a lot of virtues but let's face it, fighting is not one of them. We know what 90K of your Pushtoon and Punjabi bravehearts would have done to them had we not intervened.

Regards
Is this the best provocation you can make?
The behavior of yourselves is the only reason of the anti indian alliance around you.
 
I have a business degree from my understanding I guess they will sell them more because they know India will be a regular client (they keep buying more because they cant control themselves crashing and making the poor equiptments and brands humble)

Of course, they will become the only option for India.

And they gonna milk it dry.
 

State Dept ‘supports’ Pakistan’s call for neutral probe into Pahalgam


Anwar Iqbal
May 9, 2025

WASHINGTON: The US has called upon both Pakistan and India to hold “direct talks” to bring down tensions and said it will support any effort, including a neutral probe, to ensure the perpetrators of the Pahalgam attack are brought to justice.

In a press briefing on Thursday, Tammy Bruce, the State Department spokesperson, said the US was aware of Pakistan’s offer for a neutral investigation into the attack.

“Pakistan wants an independent investigation … and [the US] want the perpetrators to be held accountable, and we are supportive of any efforts to that end,” she added.

When asked if the two neighbours have offered any commitments,
A little bit too late…
 
Rat-zilla, digging up a mountain to unveil a tiny mouse
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The intial reports did suggest up to 14 Rafael were locked and on menu to be shot but approval was granted for only 3-5

What is new is that Sukhoi incident was in different location based on map image shared above

This makes my blood boil. They will never ever learn. The Americans, Russians, British, Israelis etc would have never let the other targets go. They are truly ruthless in battle. There is no holding back. What difference would it have made to the "escalation ladder?" - nothing.

If anything it would have created the sort of fear in the Indian armed forces where pilots would have been scared to take off again.
 
No need to waste precious ammo to target RSS: Firstly, they are everywhere in India. Secondly, that would mean killing women, babies, old people etc etc.
The targets for Pakistan are right in front on a very long border from the Rann of Kutch to the Siachen Glacier.
But if you mean 'sabotage', then, yes, target Indian infra like electricity, communications etc.

Agree . I don’t think they should target RSS sites in this round but I do think that Pakistan should formally declare RSS a terrorist organisation..
 
"Financial, Diplomatic, Internal Security, ... ... blah blah" are just excuses to hide cowardice.

DO your remember 1st day of Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddique's (R.A.) Caliphate?
People were sorrow, Byzantine was at gates & all that was compounded by 2 civil wars - no zakat & false prophets.
Some People advised Caliph: "Our economy is not great. Numbers are less. Population in rebelling against us. We can't fight a superpower (Byzantine) in this position. Call of Usama's army expedition & 1st focus on Economy. ... ..."
Caliph replied: "I can't hold back Usama's expedition as it's ordered by Prophet PBUH. His expedition will go as ordered. I'll simultaneously fight against those who don't give Zakat as paying Zakat is Allah's order. Also I will fight against false prophets. ... ..." Historians wrote all Muslim Men went to these 3 battles including Caliph. Only women remained in Madina.
Now tell me, is Pak's economic or internal security situation is more worse than 1st day of Khilafat-e-Raashda?

As Iqbal has stated in Jwab-e-Shikwa - one reason of downfall is excuses/maslehat

کون ہے تارکِ آئینِ رسُولِ مختارؐ؟
مصلحت وقت کی ہے کس کے عمل کا معیار؟
کس کی آنکھوں میں سمایا ہے شعارِ اغیار؟
ہوگئی کس کی نِگہ طرزِ سلَف سے بیزار؟
قلب میں سوز نہیں، رُوح میں احساس نہیں
کچھ بھی پیغامِ محمّدؐ کا تمھیں پاس نہیں
Comparing those people to yourself or our current leadership and people incharge is just ######.

Do they have even an iota of their moral or ethical values?
How would you compare Khalid bin Waleed's life style with any of your generals?

When Iqbal talks about all these things he is first and foremost telling you to make yourself like those people. And for your kind info it was told that even a martyr went to hell bcz he stole from bait Ul maal.
How many of the people you know fulfill their all financial obligations to the state?
 
This makes my blood boil. They will never ever learn. The Americans, Russians, British, Israelis etc would have never let the other targets go. They are truly ruthless in battle. There is no holding back. What difference would it have made to the "escalation ladder?" - nothing.

If anything it would have created the sort of fear in the Indian armed forces where pilots would have been scared to take off again.

No real gain , beyond 5 plane kill point was made from a defensive position

They responded with 30 drones as well
 
The French Rafale fighter was Considered the best 4.5 Gen in the current market. And the way JC10 jet easily shot it down and mauled it in the live field .
You don't know the conditions yet. Plus we're talking about the Air Force that has the worst record in accidents and crashes. I've been stressing it for 3 days,aren't you reading? It's like you don't know Indians.

If tomorrow the Indians shoot down a J-10C,what will you say? "Oh lucky shot" ? I've been telling some of you guys to calm down. You're acting as if you took Delhi and are marching to Kolkatta.

The most important thing is the conditions the aircraft were shot down and how many were actually shot down. Wait until objective information comes out.
 
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Does that guy know what the words "completely intact" means? The Israelis design these loitering munitions so the most sensitive part is always destroyed- even if it malfunctions.
1746806590749.pngThis is the brains. The rest is composite materials and a Wankel engine that anyone can produce.
 
You don't know the conditions yet. Plus we're talking about the Air Force that has the worst record in accidents and crashes. I've been stressing it for 3 days,aren't you reading? It's like you don't know Indians.

If tomorrow the Indians shoot down a J-10C,what will you say? "Oh lucky shot" ? I've been telling some of you guys to calm down. You're acting as if you took Delhi and are marching to Kolkatta.

The most important thing is the conditions the aircraft were shot down and how many were actually shot down. Wait until objective information comes out.

Conditions were simple , we pressed the button and rafale went down
 

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