Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

This makes my blood boil. They will never ever learn. The Americans, Russians, British, Israelis etc would have never let the other targets go. They are truly ruthless in battle. There is no holding back. What difference would it have made to the "escalation ladder?" - nothing.

If anything it would have created the sort of fear in the Indian armed forces where pilots would have been scared to take off again.
Ridiculous.. if half their rafale shot down.. they would have come to their senses. PAF reputation would have gone more sky high than Israelis..
 
This makes my blood boil. They will never ever learn. The Americans, Russians, British, Israelis etc would have never let the other targets go. They are truly ruthless in battle. There is no holding back. What difference would it have made to the "escalation ladder?" - nothing.

If anything it would have created the sort of fear in the Indian armed forces where pilots would have been scared to take off again.

Exactly 100% agree. I don’t understand this connect of ladders and restraint in the middle of a shooting battle. Would the IAF been restrained if they had the advantage. This whole concept of restraint and ladders for a mission like that puts the people of Pakistan and Pakistan itself at risk.
 
Waziristan! Balochistan!
Terrorism issue can be resolved.

Do you know who turned them against us? Who turned IEA against us?
It's not those poor Pashtuns or Balochs.
It's the result of bad decisions of our military and civilian leadership.

We told them in 1980s fighting infidels (Soviets) is Jihad. 20years later, we told them fighting infidels (US) is now Haram! They turned against us for supporting infidels.

They can be turned into our useful allies once again if we have competent leadership. Even Russia is normalizing relations & reaching deals with IEA. Why can't we? Because we fear IMF/FATF/US pressure!
Now you’re shifting goalposts because your argument is failing and bringing irrelevant aspects in.

You want all out war without consequences and brought in the Quran and Iqbal for it - please go and act on it today.
What USA, Israel, Russia, your leaders whom you tolerate passively did or did not do is just excuses.

You’re ok with fuel at Rs 500 a liter - go for it.
Go straight to constitution avenue - or the next issb or wherever you feel you will have an impact.
 
Waziristan! Balochistan!
Terrorism issue can be resolved.

Do you know who turned them against us? Who turned IEA against us?
It's not those poor Pashtuns or Balochs.
It's the result of bad decisions of our military and civilian leadership.

We told them in 1980s fighting infidels (Soviets) is Jihad. 20years later, we told them fighting infidels (US) is now Haram! They turned against us for supporting infidels.

They can be turned into our useful allies once again if we have competent leadership. Even Russia is normalizing relations & reaching deals with IEA. Why can't we? Because we fear IMF/FATF/US pressure!

They are haramis, they have always been the enemies of Pakistan and are as bad as the Hindus

We need to shred them as soon as finish with india
 
Line of the press conference!

"Dont worry, You're so fond (of the idea) of Pakistan firing at you, We'll fulfill your demand -- at the time, place and means of our choosing"

-DG ISPR commenting on the False Indian stories of Pakistan striking India​

This is one of the reasons India wants de-escalation — they have taken as much damage as they can explain to their public. Losing five aircraft, including Rafale and Sukhoi, inside their own territory will haunt the IAF for decades

Never to underestimate your enemy, especially the one with such a large economy and military and with Western backing, but I've got to say this: India looks like a wet little puppy right now and maybe told of that by the Western powers, the Arabs, the Iranians and subtly by the Chinese.
Pride comes before the fall.
 
This is one of the reasons India wants de-escalation — they have taken as much damage as they can explain to their public. Losing five aircraft, including Rafale and Sukhoi, inside their own territory will haunt the IAF for decades
This is also why the Indians have gone mad with their propaganda to the point that even their gullible population is starting to question the Indian narrative as they quiver in fear of PAF thundering over Delhi, Calcutta and Mumbai.
 
reporting live from the ruins of Karachi ... bhai mai su kar utha tu pata chala kai Karachi tabah hu giya hai ....

can anyone update me on what's been happening in past few hours, did PAF did any presser to show evidence?
Bhai Nine Zero k khandrat pr Altoph Bhoi ne bulaya hai sub ko.

Gujrat mn gaye ki khal, bhattay, aur target killing ka scene ban rha hai.
 
I hope our airforce is not used at all in retaliation. I for myself cannot fathom hearing one of our birds go down

A few ground based SOW and ultra long range MLRS at some targets and call it quits is what I think they should do.
 

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