Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

How are TT members assessing the ceasefire?

IMO it appears premature, Pakistan needs the water issue to be resolved and should use this opportunity to liberate Poonch, Uri, and Kupwara at the very least.

Damage India more while having the advantage.

India’s real posture has been exposed, they are afraid, they literally ran to the US to get a ceasefire.
 
US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio says,

I am pleased to announce the Governments of India and Pakistan have agreed to an immediate ceasefire and to start talks on a broad set of issues at a neutral site.

Plz reread highlighted ..

That statement is a long shot.
I am not going to believe in the purpose and outcome of talks if it is done at the cost of lives and internal politics. We should not let war hysteria to play us.

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China must plant a false flag at Siachen/Ladakh, and engage India there.
Nothing will happen - the calculus has been settled. The onus is now on Pakistani leadership and Pakistanis to either realize what they need to truly fix(society, economy, industry) or wait for the next one which may not go this well for you.
 
Not really.

Everyone knows very well that Paksiatn is not Hamas or Palestine. It is a nation with credible defence forces. In terms of force multipliers like AWACS etc, it has a clear edge and was well known.
Even a juvenile would have known that an attack would elicit a strong response.

So no one is likely to be shocked or surprised.

I say again, the sane minds know what a protracted conflict can do to nations.

Chest thumping can continue for personal satisfaction but it is good to see that both sides have come to the table.
 
LOC duals will continue as usual brothers we all know this....
This ceasefire is for everything else, the drones stuff is people just saying things.
Why the hell should we accept this from Indians?? Why should we let them manipulate this ceasefire to their liking?? Are people in Kashmir any lesser that they don't deserve a break?? A ceasefire after such hard fought battle,should be complete and throughout the spectrum, or nothing...
 
Exactly the ceasefire does nothing for Pakistan.... india escalated... and stopped at a point where Pakistan has nothing tangible.
For one, Water isn't secured!

Is this the way of making facts on the ground... encroach, found out ... bail out and stop with unilateral gains?

This is totally unacceptable.
Either they walk back a month or a few years when they unilaterally changed established norms. Since than Pakistan has acquiesced EVERY SINGLE TIME!

THIS WILL BE ANOTHER LOSS ON THE TABLE WHAT GROUND COULDN'T OFFER!!!
That is for you government to announce officially that any work on stopping water will be casus beli, so far you proved that you mean bussiness, you can not drain everything from one limited conflict.
 
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Nothing will happen - the calculus has been settled. The onus is now on Pakistani leadership and Pakistanis to either realize what they need to truly fix(society, economy, industry) or wait for the next one which may not go this well for you.
But until then?
 

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