Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

This is a huge topic. It's 4:26am local time right now so I won't write too much.

Sticking to the current theme, China's BVR technology has been proven to be astonishingly successful in recent events. This is an area the West always claimed absolute superiority against. MBDA's Meteor was the best medium-range AAM field by the Western world. More capable than any Amraam variant currently fielded. But Indian failed at achieving air supremacy. PAF J-10s came out superior

J-10s are the lowest-tier fighters in the PLAAF. J-15s, J-16s, which have enormously more powerful radars and sensors will be an even bigger of a nightmare for Indians. Non-the-less, the J-10s and JF-17s performed exceptionally against a much larger force. So did its datalink system, and synergy with the rest of Pakistani Chinese supplied systems in the battlefield.

AIr to air missiles is a field China definitely has a lead over the US currently. When the US finally fields a next gen AAM to replace their aging AMRAAM's, China will move onto something else. It'll be too late.

China's R&D resources and talents dwafs the US.
no point in locking horns abt airforce, instead focus on hyper sonic envelope
 
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he knew how to tall to them. Indians only understand or listen one language... talk to them with force and from a position of strength and they wud wag their tails... u pat them they become rabid dogs
 
This is a huge topic. It's 4:26am local time right now so I won't write too much.

Sticking to the current theme, China's BVR technology has been proven to be astonishingly successful in recent events. This is an area the West always claimed absolute superiority against. MBDA's Meteor was the best medium-range AAM field by the Western world. More capable than any Amraam variant currently fielded. But Indian failed at achieving air supremacy. PAF J-10s came out superior

J-10s are the lowest-tier fighters in the PLAAF. J-15s, J-16s, which have enormously more powerful radars and sensors will be an even bigger of a nightmare for Indians. Non-the-less, the J-10s and JF-17s performed exceptionally against a much larger force. So did its datalink system, and synergy with the rest of Pakistani Chinese supplied systems in the battlefield.

AIr to air missiles is a field China definitely has a lead over the US currently. When the US finally fields a next gen AAM to replace their aging AMRAAM's, China will move onto something else. It'll be too late.

China's R&D resources and talents dwafs the US.

Highly disagree with the last part. The rest I’m with you that the west constantly belittles China for them to prove them wrong and I told you China is excelling well past that.

I just don’t think militarily they are close to the US.
 
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Absolute bastard nation to our east of the highest degree. Actually adopting Israeli child killing methodologies. Do not touch the remnants of drones people!!
 
No, there were many many steps before it could even remotely get nuclear, infantry and armour didn't even engage. We could have exacted a more costly price.

Next step was nuclear. IAF was grounded. Indian army was sitting duck. But India continued to fire missiles from safe positions protected by AD.

See Pakistan doesn't have as many conventional missiles as India to play that game.
 
Idk why you’re name calling. I’ve been pretty respectful despite you claim that one J-36 can take on a fleet of F-35s

I’m even willing to change my opinion if you provide some technical details.

You are the one who is fighting on a losing argument which is the world consensus.

China's new era 3 swordmen like J-36/J-50/H-20 can easily smoke the whole Yankee air force.

That's why the dem party is so against Trump, not because they are pro-China, but afraid that deadbeat like Trump and MAGA gonna keep poking the tiger, but being ended up eating alive by the enraged tiger.
 
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India "activated" almost all air bases of a nuclear adversary who went on a rampage on its airbases and other military assets.

Anyways, one thing Pakistan cannot fix is the VR headset Indians are wearing.
 
Next step was nuclear. IAF was grounded. Indian army was sitting duck. But India continued to fire missiles from safe positions protected by AD.

See Pakistan doesn't have as many conventional missiles as India to play that game.

Also people don’t seem to understand nuclear is useless if your logistics and supply line is destroyed. You have to act early if you wanna go that route
 
Should be studied and presented in Pakistani universities and schools.
The universities which host Javed Akhtar as some sage? That's optimistic.
When you’ve been a slave all your existence, it’s hard .

Funny thing is with India’s economy they really can move on beyond us and focus on their nation and taking it to the next level

But ghulam ghulam rehta hai. They still wanna get one over us their rulers. And…….. they still can’t do it!

If it was purely ethnic hatred, it would be easily understood but this is beyond any other level seen in societies.
 
Bhutto split this country in half due to his own hubris. Name 4 positive things he’s done? I’m not necessary fan of Zia either but why does Bhutto keep getting mentioned

Just because he was educated and could give speeches ?

I am talking about capabilities n we not appreciating them. What Musharraf did was nothing short of undermining entire Pakistan security plan. Lucky Taliban came in if Northern Alliance had been in power n they defeated Taliban after America left than you would need another 700k at this moment on Afghanistan border.

They all did sh*t to each other and made decisions that harmed Pakistan n Muslims but they were in their core patriots n cared for Pakistan n the awaam. The paindus we have now have more vested interest with Modi and outside of Pakistan than in Pakistan.
 

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