SkippedPath
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I got bit concerned because the paindu Shahbaz in a clip said Shaheed Asim Muneer. Didn't have to patience to browse 50 pages to get answer so i asked.
Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion
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PAKISTANFOREVER
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These guys are not normal. They are different and separate to the rest of humanity.
Cesur
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Khuzdar in Balochistan would be quite ideal but the insurgency is another headache. Therefore, we should make tunnels and underground infrastructure if we are going to do it
I*R*A
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Did they hold back that juggernaut simply by fighting with axes, knives and 12 bore bandooq?
Please do not shy away from the fact and history that Pakistanis have always fought for them and with them. Pakistan gave them refuge in cities like Islamabad, or else who knows they may have had sons daughter grandsons ending with the names "ov".
Who wants an alliance, we want them to stop the namak harami only.
Bilal
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Empty Koh e Sulaiman and make tunnels.
Aggregate
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Found this as a top comment on an Indian paper, which gives an indication of how the common Indians are feeling after this. Never have I seen Indians questioning the Indian Govt so openly. The comment still has a bias based on misinformation being fed to the Indians but the sense of defeat is completely apparent. Point # 2 also shows that their public agrees to losing at least 1 Rafale
krash
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I had similar jasba when I was young but it took many years after shedding all delusions I became little useful to my society ..
SkippedPath
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If paf gets these than it is likely India will go for stealth fighter jets, F35.
m52k85
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Yar Pakistanio ney had kardi, ab Jibran bhi India ki bajara hai. Indians dont know what favour they have done us.
abdulbarijan
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- No noise from our side, i suppose that its the same cycle of damage assessment as well as collection of proof for the claims we'll be making in the conclusion to this round of hostilities followed up by a press conference.
- While the last missile strike did cause damage on our side, something I guess is the only face saving India has as of right now, it would be quite interesting to see how they spin this:
(a) Initial airstrike by India while it caused damage on the ground (civilians & mosques) - the damage done by the PAF of 5 aircrafts including rafale & SU-30MKI, is irreparable. Consider all the time spent on selling these weapons to the Indian public, the aura of invincibility cultivated around it, and all it took was "Chinese Junk Fighter-10" to blow it out of the sky, in a situation where IAF had numerical advantage as well as the element of surprise and time to throughly plan. Spin it anyway you want, the fact remains after the initial air confrontation, no such air battle happened in this entire escalation. Was that by coincidence or design?
(b) The UAV/drone strikes, majority of them were intercepted. Normally, you'd find nations where the citizens have fear in their eyes, afterall those were kamikaze drones and many landed on civilian infrastructure with reports of injuries as well, and the normal citizens of Pakistan, leading up to this confrontation were busy trolling the Indian side with memes, and when these attacks happened, were busy creating humor around this, I mean, we've all seen the claims of the guys actually busy picking up the wreckage of these drones and selling them to the Kabari bazars. You've had visuals of normal everyday Pakistanis rolling up on their CD-70's an AK-47 in hand and trying to shoot down drones along side the army. You'd think a major escalation would inspire a semblance of fear in your opponent except the biggest "screw you" came from the Pakistani awam with the morale being extremely high even under continuous UAV threats from the Indian side.
(c) The Indian missile attacks (including brahmos) do seem to have caused damage on the Pakistani side, however the Pakistani side launched similar strikes in India from the IOK to Gujrat. So basically, Pakistan more or less ended up with a proportional response to the Indian side whilst destroying the myth of the Indian equipment, something that they were building up from decades, and the mere fact that it was India that was seeking a cease fire as reported by CNN should tell you exactly what was happening on the ground. Add in the fact that Pakistan in terms of numerical, financial and technological strength is many times smaller vis-a-vis India, its actually quite easy to see who had the upper hand.
Side Note: The coverage by the Indian media should tell you all about how accurate they are whilst reporting. Those who taunt about "Pakistani books" should go and see the videos of Indian claims regarding Gen. Asim, "Lahore port", "Destruction of Karachi port" etc. We have social media now which empowers the individual to go through information to determine if its true and misinformation. A lot of content creators from the Indian side indeed took notice and criticized their own side. Now just Imagine what they would have been doing in the earlier conflicts knowing there was no one to fact check them.
- While the last missile strike did cause damage on our side, something I guess is the only face saving India has as of right now, it would be quite interesting to see how they spin this:
(a) Initial airstrike by India while it caused damage on the ground (civilians & mosques) - the damage done by the PAF of 5 aircrafts including rafale & SU-30MKI, is irreparable. Consider all the time spent on selling these weapons to the Indian public, the aura of invincibility cultivated around it, and all it took was "Chinese Junk Fighter-10" to blow it out of the sky, in a situation where IAF had numerical advantage as well as the element of surprise and time to throughly plan. Spin it anyway you want, the fact remains after the initial air confrontation, no such air battle happened in this entire escalation. Was that by coincidence or design?
(b) The UAV/drone strikes, majority of them were intercepted. Normally, you'd find nations where the citizens have fear in their eyes, afterall those were kamikaze drones and many landed on civilian infrastructure with reports of injuries as well, and the normal citizens of Pakistan, leading up to this confrontation were busy trolling the Indian side with memes, and when these attacks happened, were busy creating humor around this, I mean, we've all seen the claims of the guys actually busy picking up the wreckage of these drones and selling them to the Kabari bazars. You've had visuals of normal everyday Pakistanis rolling up on their CD-70's an AK-47 in hand and trying to shoot down drones along side the army. You'd think a major escalation would inspire a semblance of fear in your opponent except the biggest "screw you" came from the Pakistani awam with the morale being extremely high even under continuous UAV threats from the Indian side.
(c) The Indian missile attacks (including brahmos) do seem to have caused damage on the Pakistani side, however the Pakistani side launched similar strikes in India from the IOK to Gujrat. So basically, Pakistan more or less ended up with a proportional response to the Indian side whilst destroying the myth of the Indian equipment, something that they were building up from decades, and the mere fact that it was India that was seeking a cease fire as reported by CNN should tell you exactly what was happening on the ground. Add in the fact that Pakistan in terms of numerical, financial and technological strength is many times smaller vis-a-vis India, its actually quite easy to see who had the upper hand.
Side Note: The coverage by the Indian media should tell you all about how accurate they are whilst reporting. Those who taunt about "Pakistani books" should go and see the videos of Indian claims regarding Gen. Asim, "Lahore port", "Destruction of Karachi port" etc. We have social media now which empowers the individual to go through information to determine if its true and misinformation. A lot of content creators from the Indian side indeed took notice and criticized their own side. Now just Imagine what they would have been doing in the earlier conflicts knowing there was no one to fact check them.
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White Privilege
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I believe Fatah rockets are good cheaper alternatives to cruise missiles in the opening salvo against not so distant targets. It was a good decision not break the bank outright
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