Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

I believe Fatah rockets are good cheaper alternatives to cruise missiles in the opening salvo against not so distant targets. It was a good decision not break the bank outright

That, faster, you can carpet an area with them, and they were enough. We don't know that CMs were not used, either. Regardless, weapons are used as per the need, not based on some childish understanding of one-upmanship.

Because these two forces are very professional Air Force and navy. But I highly doubt our army because the present activities they've been doing which are not related to their field of expertise.

Who's been fighting a war for the past 20 odd years?
 
That, faster, you can carpet an area with them, and they were enough. We don't know that CMs were not used, either. Regardless, weapons are used as per the need, not based on some childish understanding of one-upmanship.



Who's been fighting a war for the past 20 odd years?
80,000 people lost. Is that the success we are facing brother? You must know what's the disease you have then you can fix it. Many part of our countries are burning
 
Bro you lost it who will defend your border in case of invasion? Only armed forces and people like you who are politically motivated and following a cult like religion not even worthy to debate with.

We are in state of war still cult followers not forget to poke with their venomous propaganda but be assured cult leader will rot in jail forever and will die their.
What we saw yesterday we have to learn modern warfare is changed. There is no invasion. look at Russia. They could not occupy ukrainians look at the Israelis They cannot control Gaza fully. We have stupid people. They follow wrong people like God s and they are not ready to accept the mistake and flaws in society
 
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Armenian social media pages have completely taken the side of India, sharing developments only through the lense of Indians. If you read them, you would get the impression that India stomped Pakistan, and Pakistan did absolutely nothing.

Check this out:


Know your friends and enemies.
 
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@Panzerkiel hope the right departments have started taking notes on this.

Air launched cruise missiles with range exceeding 500km & proper kamikaze drones, not the Turkish stick drone.
Turkish stick drones are meant for armour, which by nature is close to front. We dont have an equivalent of penetrating loitering munition, that gap needs to be filled if we want to continue to fight the tit-for-tush war.

If however we want to fight a real war we need, point defence with low cost per shot, more Jf-17s, and J-10s for sustained ops, deeper magazine depth for our latest munitions across the board (HQ-9s, Fatahs, CM-400). Pl-15 is the one munition we might have enough of already.

Finally, the troops on the front need to be re-kitted, but that will be whole new topic.
 
Armenian social media pages have completely taken the side of India, sharing developments only through the lense of Indians. If you read them, you would get the impression that India stomped Pakistan, and Pakistan did absolutely nothing.

Check this out:


Know your friends and enemies.


Not enemies


You have to understand that turkey and Armenian hatred is deep, maybe deeper

Look at the role Pakistan played with turkey and vice versa plus Indian military investment

For sure keep eyes open, adversary not enemy
 
No we need to stop.
Recalibrate our shortcomings. Induct 8 submarine
Work on supersonic cruise missiles and Fatah
Work on inducting more Jf 17 block 3 and j10s
Induct j35.

Indian fired brahmos on our military based and we couldn't intercept them. Nor did we fire any cruise missiles into their territory. I think we don't really have a high trust in our cruise missiles idk.

Work on the economy like batshit crazy. Escalation will suite India.
Agreed, this is what I also slightly felt. We did not use our high end missiles a lot. I don't know. Yes Fatah did a hell of a damage to their forward bases but we could have gone deeper. Maybe we were just keeping the more high end stuff for later, if things escalated.

Though mind you, India was far more disappointing when it came to whatever they were shouting about in the past
  • Rafales were pretty much target practice for Pakistan and disappeared after the 7th
  • Indian Navy never came close to Pakistan
  • From all accounts, 30 + Brahmos Missiles were fired on the 9th, but only 4 of them hit their targets.
  • S400 pretty much failed against Fatah Missiles

I think when it comes to war, nothing is as heroic as every country shows in their military videos to their public. But yes, Pakistan does need to develop hypersonic weapons as fast as we can.

Also, we were severely lacking in public training and information. Air Raid sirens need to be more widespread to rural and outer areas, our Mosques alone can be used for the Ramadan type sirens too. People need to be trained and given information on how to react to emergency situations too. There was almost no training and most people were relying on whatsapp shares on how to deal with warlike scenarios.
 
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Not enemies


You have to understand that turkey and Armenian hatred is deep, maybe deeper

Look at the role Pakistan played with turkey and vice versa plus Indian military investment

For sure keep eyes open, adversary not enemy

They are cut from the same cloth as Hindutva that deliberately bombed mosques.
 
80,000 people lost. Is that the success we are facing brother? You must know what's the disease you have then you can fix it. Many part of our countries are burning

How many of them were in uniform? Look around. Do you look like Yemen, Iraq, Syria, or Afghanistan?

Your areas are burning because we have been eating away at the country like termites, including the army, of course. Not all issues have a military solution.
 
Yes like the idiots having no concept of opsec, taking photos of missile and equipment control units and posting it.. Education level of army personnel needs to enhanced so they can handle modern warfare concepts and equipment better.. drones usage should be taught for and for at section/platoon level..
Fanboy spotted I don't want to go into fight because it's not the right time. Society without critics cannot improve. Learn before you type
 
Somehow (and it’s a miracle in itself). Their narrative is not being taken by the international community.


It's because india and indians embarrass their western and russian backers with their incompetence and inferiority. indians have seriously downgraded the values of the rafale and s400. That will not go unnoticed by the west and russia.

For context:
india is MORE than 7× bigger than Pakistan, has the full backing of america, the west, russia and israel. Full access to their weapons and resources yet STILL can't beat Pakistan. Let that sink in. Yet still india needs it's media to spout propaganda against Pakistan............. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:............shows just how inferior the indian race is...........:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:.........What Pakistan did to india was BEYOND humiliation.
 

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