Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

The information I got is that the United States has banned Pakistani F16s from attacking Indian fighter jets within Indian territory and they can only be used for national air defense.
My friend, the US can ban anything but that would not stop us from using "our" assets. When we go into a fight, we are ready to use EVERYTHING. Americans can ban spares but Pakistan will use every tool in our toolkit to damage the other side.
 
This is the same old “terror camp vs innocent madrasa/masjid” line. If every site hit was purely civilian, are we seriously claiming Pakistan has zero terror training camps and India just fabricates intel to bomb random buildings? That’s hard to buy.

Anyway, as far as India is concerned, these were terror camps. And let’s be honest, no amount of evidence or dossiers over decades has ever led to a single credible action from Pakistan’s side. That’s the real context behind these strikes.

Again the old Indian tactic of derailing conversation and not owning up.

Whether or not Pakistan has “terror” camps or not is irrelevant. Even if India has terror camps well khulbashan yadav is trained I can’t attack Delhi civilian area

Secondly you have to prove the link with pehelgam. You can’t go on a hunch and say “well they’ve probably done it” and just bombard civilians.

Why not have one press conference that shows proof?

why don’t you just admit the reality. India has been doing well economically and building their army so they need an excuse to knock out Pakistan.

They tried. They failed. Again.
 
which means we need stable politics, economy, diplomacy, narrative etc so the moment India goes crazy after some attack, we can have all those behind our kinetic attack.
That is why we need to work on stabilizing Baluchistan as our Chinese friends have pointed out earlier in this thread; IMHO, a lot more carrot and keep the stick handy and strong for the BLA. Also we need to get our politicians to stand on platforms not just personalities. The country needs a change to rebuild trust to rebuild investment. People thinks every Tom Dick and Harry are embezzling funds anyone invests in Pakistan. We need vision. A 25-50 year plan, because we can’t fix 50 years of mistakes in less than 25-50 years.
 
For some people who prefer to accept the enemy narrative - watch this for a few seconds.

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[Indian Air Marshal AK Bharti's response when pressed on losses - listen to his response].

aqal ke nakhun lo... Don't comment on things beyond your remit. There is a reason there is a chain of command and an authority who sanitise and present information.
 
Their whole ideology had changed recently to ask for rights not independence.
Many of us ordinary. People. And non Baloch like me were interacting with them online and we did argue with them a lot.

These were the Actual Baloch based in UAE or Pakistan.

But those accounts run by Shankar lal Tiwari Baloch can say what they want on twitter.
Now all these proxyies will double their actions
 
I've seen posts/rumors/comments on Twitter from the same CNN journalistic group that the shocking intel was in fact that India is going to bomb Chaklala and other bases.

No idea if true or not.


Shocking intelligence wa sthe introduction of SSM targeting Dehli and Bombay which would have opened huggge front
 
This is the same old “terror camp vs innocent madrasa/masjid” line. If every site hit was purely civilian, are we seriously claiming Pakistan has zero terror training camps and India just fabricates intel to bomb random buildings? That’s hard to buy.

Anyway, as far as India is concerned, these were terror camps. And let’s be honest, no amount of evidence or dossiers over decades has ever led to a single credible action from Pakistan’s side. That’s the real context behind these strikes.
We have dead bodies of our kids that we buried with our own hands. The hell with your "as far as India is concerned" propaganda.
 
Can anyone tell me more about the Fatah missiles we used that brought them in panic mode?

Are these indigenous ?
Chinese Taian TAS5450 eight-wheel drive chassis.

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problem with india is that they want themselves considered among the nations who are being looked up. they want hegemony and power over neighboring states.
they think they are superior, smart and a super power.
their mental upbringing is so deceitful fed by Modi regime over the years and not by taking some efforts to rise as a great nation.
with same attitude, this woman is narrating her point.
some years back on this forum i said, i would love to see Modi stay for long as premier of India.
what else we need when we have someone fool, arrogant and presumptuous in our neighbors.
Mental problem In our area we called " Nou Dolatiyia" means someone who git newly wealth not from heritance just like a dog who can'y digest ghee same like with them ,......but don't worry we have plenty of hajmola to let them newly got ghee to set these kuttay k bachey on line.
 
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Sorry bro this not MRLs these are missiles.
 
we seriously claiming Pakistan has zero terror training camps and India just fabricates intel to bomb random buildings?
Yes! Otherwise you have to give undeniable proofs.

Think about this scenario, a suicide attack happens in Pakistan and Pakistan says that India is behind that.. and then bombs a BJP political office, or a mandir and starts yelling that the handlers were sitting in the mandir or in that political office.. what would you and the world do?

That's exactly what has happened this time with India. The world has had enough of listening to your cries all the time. You have a problem in Kashmir where majority of people don't want to live with you, and your forces kill them with impunity. Those guys hit you back when they get a chance. It will continue for another 100 years if you don't solve this problem. The only solution is giving the Kashmiris the right of self determination. Whether they want to join Pakistan, or India, or want to live independently, it's their right to decide.

KASHMIR BELONGS TO KASHMIRIS, NOT PAKISTAN OR INDIA.
 
This is the same old “terror camp vs innocent madrasa/masjid” line. If every site hit was purely civilian, are we seriously claiming Pakistan has zero terror training camps and India just fabricates intel to bomb random buildings? That’s hard to buy.

Anyway, as far as India is concerned, these were terror camps. And let’s be honest, no amount of evidence or dossiers over decades has ever led to a single credible action from Pakistan’s side. That’s the real context behind these strikes.
Yes, all is fabricated to be used for political gains. You look at the visuals, do you spot any weapons or training equipment in the rubble, just simple masjids. All this terror hoax is just an excuse to not normalise with Pakistan and avpid the Kashmir issue talks like a plague. However you guyz are begging to solve territorial issues with China, and even willing to give your precious Bharat mata land to the Chinese only if they signed a map. Where does the 56 inch go then?? The only difference here, you hate us and don't want to treat us on equal terms.
 
I hear you, and I don’t doubt that civilian areas may have been affected, warzones are messy, and mistakes do happen. But here’s the real question: could all this have been avoided if there were a genuine, transparent mechanism to act on groups involved in terror activities regardless of which side of the border they operate on?

It’s not like Pakistan has gained anything from these groups either. Decades of internal instability and global isolation show they’re a long-term liability. The truth is, unless Pakistan truly sees these groups as a problem, rather than a strategic asset, nothing will change.
with millions or army personnel deployed and almost 24/7 surveillance, high tech. equipment etc etc. How is that possible, that, inusrgents are consistently finding to 'attack' openly army and tourists. If you would say, they have local support, I would argue, YOU LOST THE REASON TO OCCUPY THAT LAND in the first place!!!!
 

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