Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

So Khamenei will sign a deal with Shaheed Soleimani's murderer and block Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons "forever." Undoubtedly one of, if not the worst leader Iran has ever had.

He ruined the best years of 3 generations of our people (and really turned the lives of all Iranians into hell for 15-20 years straight) to finally give up everything in a matter of 2 years.

 

[FUB]

He ruined the best years of 3 generations of our people (and really turned the lives of all Iranians into hell for 15-20 years straight) to finally give up everything in a matter of 2 years.

That is not even the worst of it; according to the NY Times, he plans to hand over the enrichment process to the US ( oversight) and sell enriched uranium to, Saudi Arabia, and UAE , which will never happen. It sounds like this regime at this pace to top the Gajar Dynasty but the truth may be something else.
Saudis, UAE, and Qatar just paid a one trillion dollar bribe to the US for Tech and Weapons that they will never use, and Iran gives away the nuclear technology.

Here is the reality after 45 years. There is no way to know where Iran would be had it not been through major war, regional wars, sanctions, and rampant corruption.
According to CHatGPT

Here's a side-by-side comparison of Iran's economic and quality-of-life indicators between 1978 and 2024, adjusted for inflation where applicable:

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Iran: 1978 vs. 2024 – Economic and Social Indicators​

Indicator	1978	2024
GDP (Current US$)	~$90 billion (nominal)	$401.5 billion
GDP per Capita	$2,166.89	Data not specified
Total Exports	Data not specified	$114.99 billion
Inflation Rate	11.72%	31.7%
Unemployment Rate	Data not specified	7.6%
Life Expectancy	56.04 years	77.65 years
Adult Literacy Rate	36.52%	88.96%

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Key Takeaways​

• Economic Growth: Iran's nominal GDP has increased significantly from 1978 to 2024.
• Exports: Export values have grown, reflecting changes in trade dynamics.Wikipedia+18GTI+18Reuters+18
• Inflation: Inflation remains a challenge, with rates higher in 2024 compared to 1978.
• Unemployment: Current unemployment rates are moderate, but historical data for 1978 is unavailable for comparison.
• Life Expectancy: There has been a substantial increase in life expectancy, indicating improvements in healthcare and living conditions.
• Literacy: Adult literacy rates have more than doubled, showcasing advancements in education.Macrotrends+1countryeconomy.com+1

Iran Proposes Novel Path to Nuclear Deal With U.S.​

Iranian officials said their foreign minister had proposed a joint nuclear-enrichment venture, involving Arab countries and American investment.

Iran has proposed the creation of a joint nuclear-enrichment venture involving regional Arab countries and American investments as an alternative to Washington’s demand that it dismantle its nuclear program, according to four Iranian officials familiar with the plan.
Iran’s proposal entails the establishment of a three-country nuclear consortium in which Iran would enrich uranium to a low grade, beneath that needed for nuclear weapons, and then ship it to other Arab countries for civilian use, according to the four Iranian officials and news reports.

A deal that would allow Iran to enrich uranium to 3.67 percent would bear similarity to the 2015 nuclear agreement between Iran and world powers. But a major difference would be the on-the-ground presence of representatives from other countries — perhaps even the United States — to provide an extra layer of oversight and involvement.

The four Iranian officials said that unlike the 2015 nuclear deal, which had a 15-year expiration date, the joint venture plan would be permanent. That would allow Mr. Trump, who pulled the United States out of that deal, to argue that he had obtained significantly more from Iran than President Barack Obama did.

 

[ShapurII]

That is not even the worst of it; according to the NY Times, he plans to hand over the enrichment process to the US ( oversight) and sell enriched uranium to, Saudi Arabia, and UAE , which will never happen. It sounds like this regime at this pace to top the Gajar Dynasty but the truth may be something else.
Saudis, UAE, and Qatar just paid a one trillion dollar bribe to the US for Tech and Weapons that they will never use, and Iran gives away the nuclear technology.

Here is the reality after 45 years. There is no way to know where Iran would be had it not been through major war, regional wars, sanctions, and rampant corruption.
According to CHatGPT

Here's a side-by-side comparison of Iran's economic and quality-of-life indicators between 1978 and 2024, adjusted for inflation where applicable:

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Iran: 1978 vs. 2024 – Economic and Social Indicators​

Indicator	1978	2024
GDP (Current US$)	~$90 billion (nominal)	$401.5 billion
GDP per Capita	$2,166.89	Data not specified
Total Exports	Data not specified	$114.99 billion
Inflation Rate	11.72%	31.7%
Unemployment Rate	Data not specified	7.6%
Life Expectancy	56.04 years	77.65 years
Adult Literacy Rate	36.52%	88.96%

---

Key Takeaways​

• Economic Growth: Iran's nominal GDP has increased significantly from 1978 to 2024.
• Exports: Export values have grown, reflecting changes in trade dynamics.Wikipedia+18GTI+18Reuters+18
• Inflation: Inflation remains a challenge, with rates higher in 2024 compared to 1978.
• Unemployment: Current unemployment rates are moderate, but historical data for 1978 is unavailable for comparison.
• Life Expectancy: There has been a substantial increase in life expectancy, indicating improvements in healthcare and living conditions.
• Literacy: Adult literacy rates have more than doubled, showcasing advancements in education.Macrotrends+1countryeconomy.com+1

Iran Proposes Novel Path to Nuclear Deal With U.S.​

Iranian officials said their foreign minister had proposed a joint nuclear-enrichment venture, involving Arab countries and American investment.

Iran has proposed the creation of a joint nuclear-enrichment venture involving regional Arab countries and American investments as an alternative to Washington’s demand that it dismantle its nuclear program, according to four Iranian officials familiar with the plan.
Iran’s proposal entails the establishment of a three-country nuclear consortium in which Iran would enrich uranium to a low grade, beneath that needed for nuclear weapons, and then ship it to other Arab countries for civilian use, according to the four Iranian officials and news reports.

A deal that would allow Iran to enrich uranium to 3.67 percent would bear similarity to the 2015 nuclear agreement between Iran and world powers. But a major difference would be the on-the-ground presence of representatives from other countries — perhaps even the United States — to provide an extra layer of oversight and involvement.

The four Iranian officials said that unlike the 2015 nuclear deal, which had a 15-year expiration date, the joint venture plan would be permanent. That would allow Mr. Trump, who pulled the United States out of that deal, to argue that he had obtained significantly more from Iran than President Barack Obama did.

The joint venture is a genius idea, actually. This is the best possible solution for Iran's civilian program. We don't have enough uranium reserves to sustain a civilian program for a long time and the international powers, including China and Russia, will never allow Iran to have a civilian program as it requires an enrichment capacity of well over 500,000 SWU U/year.
This joint venture gives Iran access to natural uranium, money and technology. It gives us a valid reason to finally use Natanz and Fordow to their full capacity and reach over 1 million SWU U/year. But the problem is that Iran endured the world's harshest sanctions for nearly 20 years to finally reach this place where it's retreating from its positions one after another.

Look at any other example that went through the same process. China, Pakistan, India, even North Korea, they all finally went nuclear and eased tensions with the US and the world through a stronger position, the position of a nuclear nation. Only Iran didn't go nuclear and decided to reset its program once in 2015 and soon in 2025. And considering that Iran was absolutely betrayed by all signing parties in 2015, one wonders why the regime thinks this time is different when they have the same cards, and maybe even one fewer card to play (IR-40 reactor).

Some of the obligations that Iran has accepted under JCPOA are forever. For example, Iran is never able to reprocess plutonium, for any purpose, in the future. This was in JCPOA. And now they're going to accept the same thing for uranium enrichment beyond 3.67% in 2025.

I think it's unfair to compare this corrupt regime with the Qajars. The Qajars had been severely weakened after fighting with the Tsarist Russia and they had to deal with an ambitious British empire in the east and the south who saw weakening Iran in their favor, as well as an archfoe called the Ottomans. The Tsarist Russia was the world's leading military power at the time. They fought 4 rounds, each lasting several years. Had this regime fought with the US for even one month, it would've collapsed. Also, let's not forget that it was the Ayatollahs that worked the Qajars to fight the Russians in the first place.

 

[Watandar]

So Khamenei will sign a deal with Shaheed Soleimani's murderer and block Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons "forever." Undoubtedly one of, if not the worst leader Iran has ever had.

Its called realpolitik. Khamenei is joining the list of deals that Israel is against and which will enable Iran to improve its economy and people's standard of living. Isn't that the main complaint Iranians have these days ? Everything is very expensive and economy sucks ?

 

[BigMela2onin]

Its called realpolitik. Khamenei is joining the list of deals that Israel is against and which will enable Iran to improve its economy and people's standard of living. Isn't that the main complaint Iranians have these days ? Everything is very expensive and economy sucks ?

Iran has been sanctioned for decades for a nuclear program that is going to result in no nuclear weapons, no enrichment, and a economic situation that will take years to decades to fix for no other reason than the cowardice of its leaders. We could have had nukes in the 90s but now it's the 2020s and we have nothing. "Israel" might as well strike those nuclear sites, they serve no purpose anymore.

 

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[Persian Gulf]

Trump: Iran is lucky to have the Emir of Qatar. He has been very vocal in defending them and has asked me not to bomb Iran so hard. He told me you can make a deal with the Iranians. I mean it. Iran should thank the Emir of Qatar for defending them.

 

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[Abid123]

We could have had nukes in the 90s but now it's the 2020s and we have nothing.

Well, you never know for sure... Not everything is revealed in the open.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

So Khamenei will sign a deal with Shaheed Soleimani's murderer and block Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons "forever." Undoubtedly one of, if not the worst leader Iran has ever had.

It's very suspicious as it comes out of the mouth of the corrupt gangster Shamkhani (who has a lot of interests in muzlim-zionist states like UAE, Azerbayjan).

 

[vmro]

Trump: Iran is lucky to have the Emir of Qatar. He has been very vocal in defending them and has asked me not to bomb Iran so hard. He told me you can make a deal with the Iranians. I mean it. Iran should thank the Emir of Qatar for defending them.

Actually he is genius in this gambit, long-term plan of racketeering the richest Arabian states with zillions petro-dollars guaranteed for hyper-expensive military 'modernization'...

I am sure that cunning Qatari leader was honest with Trump that without Iran, Saudis will achieve already attempted plan of isolation and dependency on Qatar... Plan was disastrous failure with simple Iranian corridor to Turkey for Qatar, so Iran has valuable tool for regional geopolitical dynamics, usa has valuable military markets, and Arabs have record of waisted money for most useless military forces ever...

Plan now is worthy a hundreds of billions dollars just for new weapons, so maybe Saudis in few decades finally match Yemen on the battlefield...


Trump after insults on Bibi in WH with ironic "we are giving 4 billions gift every year... congratulations on such success", with taxation to Israel and avoiding Tell Aviv In this regional tourney is very clear that business is ultimate priority, and deal with Iran has plenty of business opportunities, on short-term and long-term goals...

 

[chinasun]

A Chinese woman has been placed on a wanted list with a15 million reward for allegedly violating Iran sanctions.This is reminiscent of the case where Meng Wanzhou,an executive director of China’s Huawei,was arrested in Canada.In contrast,no Chinese individual has been wanted for violating Russian sanctions.

The United States is well aware that Iran has found a viable path for a religious state to achieve industrialization,emerging as a beacon for Shiite organizations.Lifting sanctions on Iran would also quickly alter the existing order in the Middle East region.Sunni countries also perceive that lifting sanctions on Iran by the United States would effectively acknowledge Iran’s status as a regional power.

Negotiations between the United States and Iran are seen as nothing more than a sham.Trump has achieved his goal,with Middle Eastern countries spending money to purchase American weapons.Trump will likely boast about it as another example of the“art of the deal.”

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Persian Gulf]

Trump says Iranian drones are 'very good, fast, and deadly', and he wants drones like that

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[AZ_HighCountry]

They will kill Trump.

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These people seem to forget that President Carter pushed for peace in the region as did President Clinton.