Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Trump praises Pakistanis as 'brilliant', touts trade as peace tool again​


"The N-word was dangerously close," US president says his diplomacy stopped a nuclear war between India, Pakistan.

News Desk
May 17, 2025

us president donald trump attends the saudi u s investment forum in riyadh saudi arabia may 13 2025 reuters


US President Donald Trump attends the Saudi-U.S. Investment Forum, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, May 13, 2025.

United States President Donald Trump has described Pakistanis as “brilliant people” and expressed a strong desire to expand bilateral trade, while claiming credit for averting what he called a near-nuclear conflict between Pakistan and India.

Speaking in an interview with Fox News, Trump said his intervention helped bring the two nuclear-armed neighbours back from the brink of war following a period of intense military escalation.

“That was going to be a nuclear war, I think, or close… And now everyone’s happy,” Trump said, referring to tensions between the South Asian rivals. “Missiles were being fired, retaliation was underway, and both sides were escalating rapidly.”

Trump credited his administration’s behind-the-scenes diplomacy for halting the crisis and said that engaging both sides through trade was part of his peace-building strategy.

“I told my people, call them up—let’s start trading immediately,” he said.

The president said he had "great conversations" with Pakistani leadership, expressing optimism about future cooperation. “They would love to trade. They are brilliant people and make incredible products. We don’t do much trading with them,” Trump said.

He noted that despite positive relations, trade between the US and Pakistan remains limited. “We can’t forget them because it does take two rectangle,” he added, in what appeared to be a slip of the tongue while attempting to stress the importance of cooperation.

Trump used the opportunity to criticise India’s economic policies, calling it “the country with the highest tariffs in the world.” However, he acknowledged that India had shown readiness to reduce tariffs in its trade dealings with Washington.

“India… they make it almost impossible to do business,” Trump said. “Do you know that they’re willing to cut 100% of their tariffs for the United States?”

Trump went on to characterise his diplomatic efforts as one of the most significant achievements of his presidency.

“A bigger success than I’ll ever be given credit for,” he said. “Those are major nuclear powers. Those are not just little powers and they were angry.”

Reflecting on the danger of the standoff, Trump described the escalation as dangerously close to a nuclear exchange.

“It was tit for tat. It was getting deeper – more missiles. Everyone was saying ‘stronger, stronger,’ to a point where the next one’s going to be, you know what? The N word,” he said.

“It’s the N word. That’s a very nasty word, right? In a lot of ways. The N word used in a nuclear sense—that’s the worst thing that can happen,” he continued. “And I think they were very close. The hatred was great.”

Trump framed the episode as a case where diplomacy, combined with economic engagement, prevented a global catastrophe.

“I’m using trade to settle scores and to make peace,” he said.

Concluding the interview, Trump portrayed himself as a president who delivers results. “We worked not only for world peace, but also for economic progress,” he said. “Trade is a tool for peace.”

The latest escalation between Pakistan and India began on April 22, when an attack in the IIOJK resort town of Pahalgam killed 26 people. India immediately blamed Pakistan for the incident, despite providing no public evidence.

In response, India undertook a series of hostile actions the next day on April 23, including suspending the 65-year-old Indus Waters Treaty (IWT), cancelling visas for Pakistani citizens, closing the Wagah-Attari border crossing, ordering the shutdown of the Pakistan High Commission in New Delhi, and reducing diplomatic staff at each other's embassies.

Pakistan strongly rejected the accusation, calling it unsubstantiated, but took reciprocal measures through its National Security Committee (NSC). These included halting trade with India, closing Pakistani airspace to Indian aircraft, and other countersteps.

Tensions further escalated in the early hours of May 7, when missile strikes hit six cities in Punjab and Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK), destroying a mosque and killing dozens of civilians, including women, children, and the elderly.

In a swift military response, Pakistan’s armed forces shot down Indian warplanes, including three Rafale jets, widely regarded as a key asset of the Indian Air Force. Over the following two days, India launched waves of Israeli-made drones, which were also neutralised by Pakistan's military.

The confrontation intensified again in the early hours of May 10, when India targeted several Pakistani airbases with missile strikes. In retaliation, Pakistan launched Operation Bunyan-un-Marsoos, damaging Indian military installations, including missile storage sites, airbases, and other strategic targets.

By Saturday evening, US President Donald Trump announced that a ceasefire had been reached following intense diplomatic efforts overnight. Minutes later, the agreement was confirmed separately by Pakistan’s Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar and the Indian foreign secretary.

But despite the military ceasefire the war of narratives has waged on.

While Pakistan publicly credited US President Donald Trump — along with China and Gulf states — for playing a vital role in defusing tensions, India downplayed foreign involvement.

Indian officials insisted the truce was the result of direct bilateral talks, with Foreign Ministry spokesperson Randhir Jaiswal clarifying that trade was never part of discussions with US officials.

Trump, however, reiterated at the US-Saudi Investment Forum that his administration had brokered the ceasefire using trade as leverage. “Let’s not trade nuclear missiles, let’s trade the things you make so beautifully,” he said, casting himself as the key peacemaker between the nuclear-armed rivals.
 
dude! China had the S300/S400 SAM system since ages! its now there 2nd tier SAM systems.

what do you think how we were able to defang it?

we knew about Rafale since 2016 upclose and personal. RBE2 Radar, Spectra EW all were compromised well before same goes for the Su-30s

People who have there task have performed it with honor and flying colors if you understand.
I know we have operational knowledge of S400 and have actively run against it.

I was having a convo with someone else a few weeks back about strange geo politics and realpolitik/recalibration in regards to Syria. How the rug was pulled from under Assad regime and its impact on Hezbullah/Iran. The guy brought up oh btw, Turk S400 might be sold back to Russia on the sidelines of Rus/Ukie peace talks in ankara and then shipped to India. This was before this whole kerfeffule.

That person's contention was that the turk S400 is as we say in Pakistan 0 meter/ panni pack just sitting in warehouse and has not been turned on. Take it with a grain of salt
 

COAS reaches Rawalpindi Stadium to watch HBL PSL X match​


Before the match began, moment of silence was observed to honour the martyrs of the nation

News Desk
May 17, 2025

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Chief of Army Staff General Asim Munir reached the Rawalpindi Cricket Stadium to watch the HBL Pakistan Super League (PSL) X match on Saturday, as the tournament resumed following a brief pause due to the confrontation with India.

Players and officials paid strong tribute to the Pakistan Armed Forces before the match began between Karachi Kings and Peshawar Zalmi. A moment of silence was also observed to honour the martyrs of the nation, followed by the national anthem.

The stadium echoed with chants of "Pakistan Zindabad" and was adorned with national flags. Fireworks lit up the sky in a celebratory atmosphere, with spectators expressing solidarity with the armed forces.

After the first innings concluded, a second round of commemorative events began, with COAS General Asim Munir present in the stadium. He was accompanied by Director General ISPR Lt. Gen. Ahmed Sharif Chaudhry and Chairman of the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), Mohsin Naqvi.

Actor and host Hamza Ali Abbasi announced that three days of PSL 10 in Rawalpindi have been dedicated to Pakistan’s military forces. “The first day is dedicated to the Pakistan Army, the second to the Navy, and the third to the Air Force,” he declared.
 

UK, US pushing to maintain Pakistan-India ceasefire, David Lammy says​


Pakistan has credited the UK, the US, and other global actors with playing key roles in easing tensions.

News Desk
May 17, 2025

tribune


British Foreign Secretary David Lammy said on Saturday that the UK is working alongside the United States to help preserve the fragile ceasefire between India and Pakistan and to promote dialogue and confidence-building measures between the two nuclear-armed nations.

Speaking at the close of a two-day visit to Pakistan, Lammy told Reuters that maintaining peace between the long-time rivals remains a priority following the recent escalation, the worst in decades, which saw both countries exchange missile fire. The ceasefire, brokered through swift international diplomacy on May 10, remains tenuous.

"We’re committed to ensuring that this ceasefire holds, that dialogue resumes, and that both sides move toward meaningful confidence-building," Lammy said in Islamabad.

Pakistan has credited the UK, the US, and other global actors with playing key roles in easing tensions that flared after an attack on tourists in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK). India blamed Pakistan for the incident, an allegation Islamabad denies.

US President Donald Trump suggested post-ceasefire dialogue should take place in a neutral venue, though no date or location has yet been finalised.

Lammy underscored the UK’s support for the continued enforcement of the Indus Waters Treaty after India suspended its participation last month. Islamabad has warned that disrupting the water flow could be seen as an act of war.

“We would urge all parties to honour their treaty obligations,” Lammy stated.

He also reaffirmed Britain’s commitment to supporting Pakistan in its fight against terrorism, calling it a serious threat to both the country and regional stability.

On Friday, David Lammy paid an unscheduled visit to Islamabad in what seems to be part of international diplomatic efforts at seeking direct talks between the nuclear-armed nations following their four-day military fight.

Lammy held formal talks with Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar and also met Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif.

The UK was one of the countries that played a role in brokering the ceasefire between Pakistan and India on May 10.

Sources said the UK foreign secretary would also travel to New Delhi as part of international diplomatic efforts to consolidate the truce.

A statement issued by the British High Commission confirmed that the main purpose of his trip was to discuss the ongoing tensions between Pakistan and India.

Tensions between Pakistan and India recently flared up after an attack in Pahalgam, India Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK), killed 26 people. India blamed Pakistan without providing evidence, triggering a series of retaliatory moves including suspending the Indus Waters Treaty, cancelling visas, and scaling back diplomatic ties.

Pakistan rejected the allegations and responded with reciprocal steps such as halting trade and closing its airspace to Indian aircraft. The conflict escalated on May 7 with Indian missile strikes on multiple cities in Punjab and AJK, killing dozens of civilians.

Pakistan responded by downing several Indian jets and neutralising drone attacks. On May 10, Indian missile strikes targeted Pakistani airbases, prompting a retaliatory campaign—Operation Bunyan Marsoos—which hit Indian military sites.

A ceasefire was announced by US President Donald Trump on May 11, following overnight diplomatic efforts, and was later confirmed by officials from both sides.
 
Certainly world has not forgotten the raping, looting "tribal" force which Pakistan unleashed on Kashmiris, nor has it forgotten the raping and looting in Bangladesh in 1971

Killing kids, women and weak is Pakistan's army MO. Indian army ghar main ghus ke maarti hai...


its ok you have vented your frustrations and anger!

acha phir aana Khushbu Laga kay
 
But despite the military ceasefire the war of narratives has waged on.

While Pakistan publicly credited US President Donald Trump — along with China and Gulf states — for playing a vital role in defusing tensions, India downplayed foreign involvement.

Indian officials insisted the truce was the result of direct bilateral talks, with Foreign Ministry spokesperson Randhir Jaiswal clarifying that trade was never part of discussions with US officials.

Trump, has however, reiterated his stance twice following the initial announcement.
 

UK, US pushing to maintain Pakistan-India ceasefire, David Lammy says​


Pakistan has credited the UK, the US, and other global actors with playing key roles in easing tensions.

News Desk
May 17, 2025

tribune


British Foreign Secretary David Lammy said on Saturday that the UK is working alongside the United States to help preserve the fragile ceasefire between India and Pakistan and to promote dialogue and confidence-building measures between the two nuclear-armed nations.

Speaking at the close of a two-day visit to Pakistan, Lammy told Reuters that maintaining peace between the long-time rivals remains a priority following the recent escalation, the worst in decades, which saw both countries exchange missile fire. The ceasefire, brokered through swift international diplomacy on May 10, remains tenuous.

"We’re committed to ensuring that this ceasefire holds, that dialogue resumes, and that both sides move toward meaningful confidence-building," Lammy said in Islamabad.

Pakistan has credited the UK, the US, and other global actors with playing key roles in easing tensions that flared after an attack on tourists in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK). India blamed Pakistan for the incident, an allegation Islamabad denies.

US President Donald Trump suggested post-ceasefire dialogue should take place in a neutral venue, though no date or location has yet been finalised.

Lammy underscored the UK’s support for the continued enforcement of the Indus Waters Treaty after India suspended its participation last month. Islamabad has warned that disrupting the water flow could be seen as an act of war.

“We would urge all parties to honour their treaty obligations,” Lammy stated.

He also reaffirmed Britain’s commitment to supporting Pakistan in its fight against terrorism, calling it a serious threat to both the country and regional stability.

On Friday, David Lammy paid an unscheduled visit to Islamabad in what seems to be part of international diplomatic efforts at seeking direct talks between the nuclear-armed nations following their four-day military fight.

Lammy held formal talks with Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister Ishaq Dar and also met Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif.

The UK was one of the countries that played a role in brokering the ceasefire between Pakistan and India on May 10.

Sources said the UK foreign secretary would also travel to New Delhi as part of international diplomatic efforts to consolidate the truce.

A statement issued by the British High Commission confirmed that the main purpose of his trip was to discuss the ongoing tensions between Pakistan and India.

Tensions between Pakistan and India recently flared up after an attack in Pahalgam, India Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK), killed 26 people. India blamed Pakistan without providing evidence, triggering a series of retaliatory moves including suspending the Indus Waters Treaty, cancelling visas, and scaling back diplomatic ties.

Pakistan rejected the allegations and responded with reciprocal steps such as halting trade and closing its airspace to Indian aircraft. The conflict escalated on May 7 with Indian missile strikes on multiple cities in Punjab and AJK, killing dozens of civilians.

Pakistan responded by downing several Indian jets and neutralising drone attacks. On May 10, Indian missile strikes targeted Pakistani airbases, prompting a retaliatory campaign—Operation Bunyan Marsoos—which hit Indian military sites.

A ceasefire was announced by US President Donald Trump on May 11, following overnight diplomatic efforts, and was later confirmed by officials from both sides.
If Pakistan were the one getting beaten, none of them would have come. This is the sign of power — if you are strong, all the major powers will show you respect. Because this is the law of the jungle — here, the weak have no voice. Just like the Palestinians, no one listens to them either.
Be very careful don’t share your technical advancement to them
 
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Can we somehow get this guy to post on the forum, maybe he or they are reading.

not that I can say I always understand them, but this handles tweets make for fantastic reading



GUYS, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A PIVOT AWAY FROM ALL THIS MISSILE INVENTORY AND OTHER CONVENTION WARFARE TALK, CLEARLY JUST THE STUFF WE SEE, BUT A LOT MORE IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENTS ARE IN THE BACKGROUND


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good, another congressi abandons the sinking La Dinastia !

How is this relevant to this thread, even if anyone gives a ****
 
Can we somehow get this guy to post on the forum, maybe he or they are reading.

not that I can say I always understand them, but this handles tweets make for fantastic reading



GUYS, I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A PIVOT AWAY FROM ALL THIS MISSILE INVENTORY AND OTHER CONVENTION WARFARE TALK, CLEARLY JUST THE STUFF WE SEE, BUT A LOT MORE IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENTS ARE IN THE BACKGROUND


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still going by keith ?

why not uddin or ullah ? :D
 
So, you know what 55 percent of 250 million is?

137.5 million — that’s Pakistan’s youth.

Now understand this: Pakistan is the 4th largest English-speaking nation in the world. That means 137.5 million young people, most of them educated, connected, and vocal — especially on social media.


In times of war, nations depend on their youth. In modern warfare, narrative is just as powerful as missiles. These young voices can shape global perception, defend the truth, and expose propaganda.

But instead of harnessing this power, two decisions betrayed them:

  1. Trying civilians in military courts.
  2. Sentencing Imran Khan to 14 years.

You want to know who helped the enemy? Find out who was behind these decisions. Because they didn’t just go after a leader — they tried to silence an entire generation that could have built Pakistan’s image worldwide.

And make no mistake — 137.5 million young, mostly English-speaking Pakistanis can build or break any global narrative.
Have you guys noticed there is an idiot name ID I think pwi something likw that he is having picture of Asim munier in his dp and he laughs on every decent conversation, shows the character of his boss lol
 

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