Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

StormBreaker said:
What’s the case here?

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First of all, Trump will not allow Afghans do that.

If Modi could not save his assh in India with advanced ADS how he would do that in undefended Afghanistan?

If Indians try to bring any assets in Afghanistan, Pak must do a pre-emptive strike in self-defense and destroy any and every Hindutva dog that comes in there.
 
FuturePAF said:
Adil, yes, but Moeed still does good analysis on most things, outside of his blind spot (understanding of the underlying dynamics of some new trends, which he acknowledged his eldest warned him about with regards to Trump upon trump’s re-election).

I would not boycott him, but understand that he himself knows the game is more complex and more simple than he gives credit to the military. For example, they have some long term issues they needed to address; no one was able to really follow through with Afghan repatriation, considering how many Afghans feel about Pakistan, regardless of government.

The military also has a generation of really old and incompetent politicians with few decent younger replacements to work with.

They also struggled with how to find a new place in the world, not being part of the GWOT. Remember Bajwa’s dumb comments about Chinese arms.

Munir is cleaning up Bajwa’s mess; The army has too many bad debts come due at the same time while expectations keep rising from all sides.
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Moeed Pirzada seems to have recalibrated to the new reality; thinking of potentially realistic options for many of the problems Pakistan faces, including our lack of allowing self critique. We have to agree with him that the civilian space is indeed limited in Pakistan; as shown by the lack of think tanks.

A decent vlog to watch.

IMHO, PTI will have to spend the rest of the decade rebuilding and even reinventing itself. A bitter pill, but a possible necessary one to become viable/“competitive” again, considering who gets the final vote.

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Gripen9 said:
Are these really Greek ya slumdogs acting like Greeks?

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Doubt the IAF “jammed” the defenses enough to prevent intercepts. The defenses were probably overwhelmed tracking too many targets or it slipped through like it was that time that “errand” missile got through last time. Definitely room for improvement.
 
Question, a few Indian airbases were hit during 10-May.

How did the Hatf 1/2 manage to penetrate Indian airbases in this instance? A combination of UAV swarms with Hatf 1/2?
 
Very insightful discussions....

Mushahid Hussain Syed Exclusive Interview | LIVE With Dr. Shahid Masood | 18 MAY 2025 | GNN​

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Raj-Hindustani said:
It's a fact that you can't conceal significant destruction if it occurs.

And I will be surprised if chinese satellites are not monitoring on daily, if they don't than I would say, they are incompetent on it.... Because, even today no war between india and china, but yet being monitored all the sensitive bases.

Many satellites are already monitoring these sensitive areas. If India makes a claim today, it will be validated by these organizations, and the same goes for any claims from Pakistan. Only after verification will others believe the information, as they tend to rely on evidence rather than emotions.
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I will ask you same.

India’s boasts of shooting down Pakistan’s F-16s, J-10s, JF-17s, the shooting down of AWACS (Shiv Aroor's lunacy) and - most outrageously - hitting a nuclear weapons depot entrance are long on bravado but short on evidence.

All utter nonsense - backed by nothing. Nothing at all.

Beyond a few minor strikes on air base structures and a runway or 2 in Pakistan, there’s no satellite imagery, wreckage, or independent reports to back these claims.

In an age where global satellites, from the U.S. to private firms, watching every move, hiding such destruction is impossible. Neutral agencies, relying on hard data like high-res imagery, haven’t confirmed India’s narrative either.

The nuclear depot claim? Pure fiction - a wet dream - no international outcry or verification exists. IAEA passed it off as a fart in the wind.

India’s rhetoric, fueled by domestic media, can’t mask the truth: these are exaggerated Bollywood-style tales, not facts. Evidence matters, and India’s got none.

What makes you think that a JF-17 can't do using a CM-400AKG - flying at Mach 4 to 5 speed in passive mode, heading towards an Indian battery of S-400 - compared to what havoc the Ukrainians have been bringing on Russia's own batteries of S-400?
 
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I have always maintened and still do that we scored a great victory by kicking India out of Afghanistan in 2021 and had IK remained in power some sort of peace and stability would have come about.Unfortunately some people live dollars more than peace and stability.

Having said that even if IEA and India establish relations it will not be like old times where karzai and Ashraf ghani gave them a free hand.People are discounting Chinese influence too much.Right now IEA needs cash and China is making it rain
 
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Nan Yang said:
In Singapore and Taiwan, the highway divider can be shifted aside to open up the full width of the highway to be used as a runway.

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we do the same bro.
 
ISPR has been transparent in their damage assessment.

A few airbases and airports were cratered with Bholari AFB hit with casualties and a SAAB 2000 AWACs suffering minor damage.

Time for India to come clean on 3 aircrafts down (reported by The Hindu with photo evidence) and another 3 jets down with videos on social media.

And the airbases, Brahmos facility being hit. And finally the S400 cheese board.

But can totally understand if they don’t. The truth will come out in the following weeks, just like when Balakot happened.
 
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Olympus81 said:
ISPR has been transparent in their damage assessment.

A few airbases and airports were cratered with Bholari AFB hit with casualties and a SAAB 2000 AWACs suffering minor damage.

Time for India to come clean on 3 aircrafts down (reported by The Hindu with photo evidence) and another 3 jets down with videos on social media.

And the airbases, Brahmos facility being hit. And finally the S400 cheese board.

But can totally understand if they don’t. The truth will come out in the following weeks, just like when Balakot happened.
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Saab 2000 hit? wtf
 
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