Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

I personally don't believe Israel is capable of an effective strike on Iranian nuclear program and military. So I'll never believe news like that. Netanyahu is not a risk taker, either. He loves bombing Gaza because it's tiny and defenseless, can't fight back in any meaningful way.

the news doesn't make sense either. talks about movement of air to air missiles. Israel would be using bunker buster bombs if it tries to attack Iranian nuclear sites, not air to air missiles since Iran doesn't have a serious air force to begin with

 

[Falcon29]

the news doesn't make sense either. talks about movement of air to air missiles. Israel would be using bunker buster bombs if it tries to attack Iranian nuclear sites, not air to air missiles since Iran doesn't have a serious air force to begin with

Yeah, unless they mean to shoot down any planes that get in their way when they inevitably violate airspace of at least a few nations.

It's US trying to distract world from EU sanctions over Gaza. US is now deploying blackwater mercenaries in Gaza. In a evil plot to shift American public in favor of war when one of those mercenary prostitute trash inevitably get eliminated.

When UNRWA has all its infrastructure in Gaza to move and deliver aid the most effective way.

 

[Falcon29]

the news doesn't make sense either. talks about movement of air to air missiles. Israel would be using bunker buster bombs if it tries to attack Iranian nuclear sites, not air to air missiles since Iran doesn't have a serious air force to begin with

Looks like a typo. But still not gonna happen.

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[Kyussis]

I hope we have good intelligence gathering on IDF positions in Syria

we can test effectiveness of new Qasem-Basir there. Israeli ABM capabilities will not extend to Syria so we will have free shots

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If Iran does hit these bases, the Turks/Salafist morons will start complaining about Iranian interference!

 

[Garcia Sea]

The possibility of a surprise attack by Israel should not be underestimated.
Israel has always favored launching surprise attacks when its opponents let their guard down during negotiations. In Western culture, leaking information before an attack to destabilize the target is a very common tactic.
If the citizens of the targeted country do not support their government, if anti-war sentiment surges within the government, and if the leader shows a weak response by turning away from reality, it serves as a trial balloon for an all-out offensive.

 

[Falcon29]

From article:
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A senior Western diplomat who met with the president earlier this month said that Trump communicated the US would give those negotiations only weeks to succeed before resorting to military strikes. But for now, the White House policy is one of diplomacy.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/20/politics/intelligence-israel-possible-strike-iran-nuclear-facilities

 

[FUB]

I say psy ops
I hope they do not run funerals for a week and pray before responding. Someone needs to tell Mr. Khamenei that we are past PR part and this is war.

Israel Preparing Possible Preemptive Attack On Iranian Nuclear Facilities: US Intelligence​

Update(1830ET): At a moment it has become very clear that Netanyahu could care less about 'pressure' from Western allies the US, UK, and Canada, there are breaking reports Tuesday evening that a preemptive Israeli attack on Iran's nuclear sites could be imminent. According to CNN:

The US has obtained new intelligence suggesting that Israel is making preparations to strike Iranian nuclear facilities, even as the Trump administration has been pursuing a diplomatic deal with Tehran, multiple US officials familiar with the latest intelligence told CNN.

Such a strike would be a brazen break with President Donald Trump, US officials said. It could also risk tipping off a broader regional conflict in the Middle East — something the US has sought to avoid since the war in Gaza inflamed tensions beginning in 2023.

The same report underscores that no 'final decision' has been made yet, and this is perhaps another ploy by the Israelis to show the West and the Mideast region that it means business, in the wake of "Israel's 9/11" - the Oct.7, 2023 Hamas terror attacks.

The late in the day headline resulted in an immediate spike in oil prices...

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[OldTwilight]

whenever they attack, we will find out ....

this is becoming so damn repetitive

 

[SolarWarden]

US is saying if negotiations fail we won't stop Israel. Just remember when Israel REALLY attacks they aren't just going to use airstrikes and missiles they are going to use their infiltrators and cause havoc from withing.

 

[ShapurII]

Iran should stop 60% enrichment at Natanz and move its 20% and 60%-enriched stockpile to Fordow. Fordow is safe from Israeli attacks.

 

[ShapurII]

negotiations are doomed if US doesn't retreat from its ridiculous demand of no enrichment. Iran will not compromise on that.

Does Trump want a deal or to continue the same failed Zionist demands?

Trump wants a deal. It's the Israel loving republicans that are stopping the deal by raising issues like 0% enrichment.

I have said it before and I will say it again. Iran should suggest that it can stop enrichment for 3 years to "build trust" but will keep its 300-400 kg of 60% HEU inside Iran, sealed under the IAEA supervision at Fordow. Keeping our HEU is much more important than a useless, token enrichment program.

 

[Sultan Baybars]

Caution.

Israel always attacks when someone’s guard is down.

They could also attack the Egyptian soldiers at the Rafa crossing to push the Palestinians in Sinai.

I dontthink that Sisi has the balls to respond if this happened.

 

[Liquidator]

Iranians are far to civilised for the rabid state.....strategic patience bla bla bla.

Sometimes.....you need to get the dog out in you.

 

[StrategicBear]

Caution.

Israel always attacks when someone’s guard is down.

They could also attack the Egyptian soldiers at the Rafa crossing to push the Palestinians in Sinai.

I dontthink that Sisi has the balls to respond if this happened.

If my nation's sovereignty is violated I will respond. To hell with nukes or even if the world gets destroyed 1000 times over and over. Mess with my nation's borders and territory and you mess with me. That's what I would do if I am Sisi, but I guess I'm more of a doomsday minder than wealth-obsessed Arab Rulers?

 

[battalion25]

The possibility of a surprise attack by Israel should not be underestimated.
Israel has always favored launching surprise attacks when its opponents let their guard down during negotiations. In Western culture, leaking information before an attack to destabilize the target is a very common tactic.
If the citizens of the targeted country do not support their government, if anti-war sentiment surges within the government, and if the leader shows a weak response by turning away from reality, it serves as a trial balloon for an all-out offensive.

I don´t think Strikes will come because they will achieve nothing. It is honestly just another Israeli propaganda they do it every other 2 month and just paper selling and Israel trying to make themselves look big nothing to see here really.

Lets assume the negotiations fall. The US knows that irrelevant strikes are futile and not worth the time. But the Americans will rather prepare for an incursion. Toppling the regime and physically occupying Iran is the only way and they fully are well aware of it. I mean all of their command intelligence.

They will try to lobby for alliances regionally and Iran will also do the same thing hence they will try to out witt each other but at the end of the day who can offer most will win. My prediction is that Iraq completely gives the green light thru that corridor and Iran gets invaded..

Besides the incursion won´t occur now but most likely year after the Gaza war ends which means the Gaza war will end in this summer with a ceasefire and the Americans will wait for 1 more year quitely preparing the ground for an invasion into Iran.

I would say by October-November 2026 they will launch the war, all provinces in Iran will be entered..

I will even try to pinpoint the allies who will enter Iran on one cold morning.

The US armed forces, Turkish armed forces, Syrian armed forces (HTS, FSA) The British armed forces, and allied with gazillions of Ukraine armd forces volunteers who are out for revenge (Note at this point there will be ceasefire in Ukraine and finally the Polish armed forces..

They will enter from 5 sectors while Ilham Aliyev will cease eastern Azeribaijan.

Ahmed Al-Sharaa will bring in atleast 500.000 forces and will become a darling in the western media for awhile after a successful invasion into Iran

The US will keep forces in Iran for 10 years and while the Syrian forces will exit after 12 years of counter-terrorism basically breaking the back of the Iranians. A new pro-pan Turkish gov´t will be etablished by US/Turkey.

The Syrians will showcase great professionalism receive the most success on their sector penetrating right thru the Iranian armed forces with ease.