Chinese 6th Generation Aircraft News & Discussions

[iblini]

Now why don't you go back to where you came from and pray that NGAD doesn't get delayed for the third time in a row.

and no canard and vertical stabilizer, otherwise It's gonna be a big blow this his old malfunction heart.

 

[NGAD IS THE BEST]

You are the one that's trolling, you threw the ragebait (And racist) claim the Chinese is incapable of innovation yet here is the literal proof of innovation. Again, let me ask you: Show me a single aircraft that can go supersonic with no vertical stabilizer or an aircraft with AMW. Plus, if implementing and improving stuff other's made counts then yes sure Lockheed innovated with stealth. Then if that's the case basically your entire argument against the Chinese becomes moot.

So you're not innovative and does J50/J36 goes supersonic? Don't think so and as for AMW, its not a new thing, remember 50s era XB-70 IT HAS HAD AMW OR DROP DOWN WINGS FOR BETTER LIFT

 

[gambit]

You already admitted to the fact that without Ufmetsev's research stealth today would still be in the stone age of "eyeballing it" and empirical data. The fact still is the soviets basically invented the entire theoretical framework for which is the backbone of modern stealth as we know it.

Bullshid. I 'admitted' no such thing. It is only your feeble attempt to save face in the face of your ignorance. It is a made up 'fact' or as we call it 'fake news'.

The word 'invention' %99 of the time implies purpose, intention, and GOAL. Ufimtsev's work revealed nothing of the sort. The real fact that his work passed Soviet military review did not mean it was useless but only that the Soviet military could not envision an eventual GOAL for his work. One can even make an accidental invention when pursuing a different goal, some examples are penicillin and the microwave oven, both came from other goals and both irrevocably changed some aspects of the world.

Even today, there is next to zero civilian applications for being low radar observable, the technically correct descriptor for 'stealth'. I said zero implying there are limited applications, and I will leave that up to you to learn how to think before you comment on something you diddly-squat about. That means being low radar observable is primarily a military application. If the Soviets missed what they had while we searched for the solution and we found the tools then applied them, we get the credit. If Lockheed was actively searching for the solution, they would have found someone in the West who did something similar or develop the solution on their own. Lockheed already had more than 1/2 progress towards the solution with an actually flying platform and all the testing facilities.

So no, the US, neither Soviets nor Germans, get the credit. But I have no doubt, some internet Chinese will eventually claim China as 'inventor' of 'stealth'.

I'll bet your understanding of flight control laws is at best "it exists",...

Far more than you.

...why don't you do some actual reading...

For being as ignorant as you are, you are in no position to lecture to anyone to do any 'reading'.

PS: Don't even start about how getting something with no tails to fly stable supersonically is trivial or "nothing new"

Of course, it is an accomplishment, but hardly an 'invention'.

Now why don't you go back to where you came from...

Take your own advice.

 

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Wingspan seems a lot wider than J-20. A wider weapons bay should be able to accommodate 6 PL-15 compared to 4 in J-20's weapons bay.

 

[cir]

Research personnels who used to engage in space industry R&D and aviation professionals have formed a joint team. What are they up to?

 

[iblini]

@喜欢新老飞机的TOMCAT粉 this weibo account has made some incredible CGI of J-50, but somehow I am unable to upload pics here with my phone, can you do the favor? @Deino

 

[Michael]

@喜欢新老飞机的TOMCAT粉 this weibo account has made some incredible CGI of J-50, but somehow I am unable to upload pics here with my phone, can you do the favor? @Deino

It's easy ...... Please call me Comrade Leifeng!

 

[naoseidenada]

it´s been some time since the J-36´s last flight. I wonder if it will happen soon.

 

[Fatman17]

More Chinese sixth-gen images!​

1. More Chinese sixth-gen images!

By AirForces Monthly
21st May 2025
News



Four months after the maiden flights of the Chengdu J-36 and Shenyang J-XDS (see AFM March, p26-27) not only have further test flights been completed, but more and significantly better photos are available of the two Chinese prototypes, or demonstrators for the PLAAF’s ‘next’ generation of fighters.

Clearer pictures of the new three-engined sixth-gen J-36 emerged on April 7 showing the tail-less diamond-wing configuration with two long LEXes (leading edge extension) all the way to the nose, without any vertical or horizontal stabilisers Chinese internet
More than five test flights of the J-36 alone have now been documented, and imagery has allowed us to better demonstrate not only its unusual size but also its three-engine, tail-less, diamond-wing configuration with two long LEXes extended all the way to the nose, without any vertical or horizontal stabilisers. The last two flights at least were flown with the landing gear retracted and fuel dumping was practised.

So far, this is the clearest image of the Shenyang J-XDS from a test flight on April 23 and for the first time reveals the fighter’s 2D-nozzles and weapons bays as well as a unique device on the intake Chinese internet
Until now, much less has been known about the somewhat smaller J-XDS from SAC, which is often referred to in the media as the J-50, even though there is no concrete evidence to date that this designation is correct. For example, it wasn’t even certain whether it was a manned platform or, more accurately, an unmanned drone. However, clearer side photos now available show an extremely flat silhouette, a fairly long radome and a relatively elongated canopy, possibly indicating a two-seater. Furthermore, the most recent photos clearly show the air intake geometry, the 2D TVC nozzles, and give a hint towards the fighter’s weapon bays, plus there are videos that display the unusual fully movable wingtips in action.

Topics​

Read more about

• AirForces Monthly June 2025
• Chengdu
• Shenyang
• China

 

[Deino]

More Chinese sixth-gen images!​

1. More Chinese sixth-gen images!

By AirForces Monthly
21st May 2025
News



Four months after the maiden flights of the Chengdu J-36 and Shenyang J-XDS (see AFM March, p26-27) not only have further test flights been completed, but more and significantly better photos are available of the two Chinese prototypes, or demonstrators for the PLAAF’s ‘next’ generation of fighters.

Clearer pictures of the new three-engined sixth-gen J-36 emerged on April 7 showing the tail-less diamond-wing configuration with two long LEXes (leading edge extension) all the way to the nose, without any vertical or horizontal stabilisers Chinese internet
More than five test flights of the J-36 alone have now been documented, and imagery has allowed us to better demonstrate not only its unusual size but also its three-engine, tail-less, diamond-wing configuration with two long LEXes extended all the way to the nose, without any vertical or horizontal stabilisers. The last two flights at least were flown with the landing gear retracted and fuel dumping was practised.

So far, this is the clearest image of the Shenyang J-XDS from a test flight on April 23 and for the first time reveals the fighter’s 2D-nozzles and weapons bays as well as a unique device on the intake Chinese internet
Until now, much less has been known about the somewhat smaller J-XDS from SAC, which is often referred to in the media as the J-50, even though there is no concrete evidence to date that this designation is correct. For example, it wasn’t even certain whether it was a manned platform or, more accurately, an unmanned drone. However, clearer side photos now available show an extremely flat silhouette, a fairly long radome and a relatively elongated canopy, possibly indicating a two-seater. Furthermore, the most recent photos clearly show the air intake geometry, the 2D TVC nozzles, and give a hint towards the fighter’s weapon bays, plus there are videos that display the unusual fully movable wingtips in action.

Topics​

Read more about

• AirForces Monthly June 2025
• Chengdu
• Shenyang
• China

Could you please post a screenshot of this report?

 

[Fatman17]

Could you please post a screenshot of this report?

Ok

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Michael]