Lebanon-Israel War | 2023-present

[Watandar]

I am not aware of the Lebanese internal politics or society.

But what i saw after Nasrallah’s martyrdom, was that Hezbollah kicked ass and didnt let the IDF invade more than 5 km inside Lebanon. The IDF couldnt progress, they had casualties and funerals every day.

It was so much pressure on them, that they begged the US for a ceasefire.

I followed the conflict closely. The only Hezbollah units that performed well were the drone and rocket forces. They continued effective hits throughout the war. The Hezbollah leadership, including Shaheed Nasrullah, I am sorry to say were unprepared for the war and didnt know what hit them. Hezbollah intelligence failed completely. Their ground forces performance was a very mixed bag, the so-called "Raduwan" special forces were a no show, some ground units indeed fought Israel fiercely at the border, but i emphasize "some". There were reports near the end of the war with foreign experts wondering why Hezbollah never deployed its almost 30k reserve force. Postwar they believe this reserve force never existed and Hezbollah itself was never more than 10-15k.

Like I said, Hezbollah nowadays is just in survival mode. I am a supporter of any resistance movement against Zio-Western domination, so I am not happy at the state of affairs, but we have to face facts.

 

[GWXP]

Note how Israel failed to defeat Hezbollah during the recent war in Lebanon for the second time since the 2006 war.

First, Israel made pager attack designed to disrupt Hezbollah's communications.

Second, Israel beheaded Hezbollah by killing Nasrallah and top Hezbollah commanders.

Third, Israel started a ground assault into Lebanon with full air support.

Israel expected that after Hezbollah's communications are disrupted and Hezbollah top leaders and commanders are killed, Hezbollah will be off balanced and its defenses will collapse under Israeli ground assault.

But despite disrupted communications and death of Nasrallah and other Hezbollah leaders and commanders, Hezbollah managed to withstand Israeli ground assault.

Hezbollah fighters beat sh*t out of IDF soldiers in southern Lebanon for the second time, while IDF proved to be incapable of defeating Hezbollah.

This is thanks to Iranian designed mosaic defense doctrine in which local units and their commanders are fully independent from central command and even if you kill Hezbollah leaders and top commanders, its local units will continue to operate and resist.

Israeli Air Force bombed, but Hezbollah units survived in underground bunkers and tunnels and when Israeli ground force invaded, Hezbollah units got out of their bunkers and attacked Israeli forces with their ATGMs and burned invading Jewish tanks and vehicles

 

[Persian Gulf]

Hezbollah wins in recent municipal elections:

80 % of the leadership was martyred, and more than 5k regular and active young fighters were martyred. In the south, many villages were destroyed, and there is no corner of Dahiya that was spared from bombing.

Economic offices associated with Hezbullah (Qard Al-Hasan) were also bombed. Israel, the Arab states, the United States, and the Lebanese government stood together on one page, working to politically sideline Hezbullah and discussing its disarmament, which is still ongoing. The aid route from Iran via Syria was blocked, and even today, special checks against the Shia community continue at airports.

Despite all this, in the recent municipal elections, Hezbullah and Amal achieved a clear victory. In more than 35 villages, elections were not even held because the people expressed their trust in Hezbullah and Amal. They won all the seats in Beirut, Baalbek, and Beqaa.

 

[Watandar]

Hezbollah wins in recent municipal elections:

80 % of the leadership was martyred, and more than 5k regular and active young fighters were martyred. In the south, many villages were destroyed, and there is no corner of Dahiya that was spared from bombing.

Economic offices associated with Hezbullah (Qard Al-Hasan) were also bombed. Israel, the Arab states, the United States, and the Lebanese government stood together on one page, working to politically sideline Hezbullah and discussing its disarmament, which is still ongoing. The aid route from Iran via Syria was blocked, and even today, special checks against the Shia community continue at airports.

Despite all this, in the recent municipal elections, Hezbullah and Amal achieved a clear victory. In more than 35 villages, elections were not even held because the people expressed their trust in Hezbullah and Amal. They won all the seats in Beirut, Baalbek, and Beqaa.

where did you read this ?

 

[Persian Gulf]

where did you read this ?

A pro-Resistance popular referendum

SOUTH LEBANON — Ballots closed in the third round of municipal and mayoral elections on May 18 in Beirut Governorate, Bekaa Governorate, and Baalbek-Hermel Governorate.

www.tehrantimes.com

many sources, just google

 

[LeGenD]

Note how Israel failed to defeat Hezbollah during the recent war in Lebanon for the second time since the 2006 war.

First, Israel made pager attack designed to disrupt Hezbollah's communications.

Second, Israel beheaded Hezbollah by killing Nasrallah and top Hezbollah commanders.

Third, Israel started a ground assault into Lebanon with full air support.

Israel expected that after Hezbollah's communications are disrupted and Hezbollah top leaders and commanders are killed, Hezbollah will be off balanced and its defenses will collapse under Israeli ground assault.

But despite disrupted communications and death of Nasrallah and other Hezbollah leaders and commanders, Hezbollah managed to withstand Israeli ground assault.

Hezbollah fighters beat sh*t out of IDF soldiers in southern Lebanon for the second time, while IDF proved to be incapable of defeating Hezbollah.

This is thanks to Iranian designed mosaic defense doctrine in which local units and their commanders are fully independent from central command and even if you kill Hezbollah leaders and top commanders, its local units will continue to operate and resist.

Israeli Air Force bombed, but Hezbollah units survived in underground bunkers and tunnels and when Israeli ground force invaded, Hezbollah units got out of their bunkers and attacked Israeli forces with their ATGMs and burned invading Jewish tanks and vehicles

If this is the case then why Hezbollah capitulated and considered ceasefire? The War Monitor Twitter handle was casting a misleading picture, reality was different. Losses are very likely in war but the IDF was focused on how to fight the war instead of optics. The IDF was advancing and blowing up Hezbollah underground infrastructure in South Lebanon, movement towards Litani River was slow due to regional topography and focus on uncovering Hezbollah's underground infrastructure along the path. Hezbollah capitulated before the IDF reached Litani River because the IDF was attacking Hezbollah elements across Lebanon with great precision and prevented large-scale mobilization in the process. The IDF was able to disrupt Hezbollah's communications, eliminate Hezbollah's best planners, a chunk of Hezbollah's munition stockpiles, and killed many Hezbollah fighters in clashes in South Lebanon. The IDF still has footprint in South Lebanon and continues to attack Hezbollah elements suspected of regrouping as you can see in the first link. Hezbollah has lost the ability to respond to the IDF effectively.

 

[Jalz]

If Iran stop funding and supplying its proxies they can't function. Like all those missiles, they have seekers built in Iran that need to be provided, even for the Houthis. If Iran is agreeing to end the supply, then thats throwing them under the bus. Xumas isn't a baathist btw.

Just because you sign a treaty doesn't mean you have to follow it. We can pretend to

 

[LeGenD]

Hezbollah’s former recruit arrested for collaborating with Israel

SOUTH LEBANON — In recent days, rumors about former Hezbollah recruit, Mohammad Saleh, some accurate and some exaggerated, have circulated rapidly, after the government commissioner to the military court, Judge Fadi Akiki, filed a complaint against him on charges of collaborating with the...

www.tehrantimes.com

 

[Watandar]

The main question yet to be answered is how did Israel penetrate Hezbollah so deeply. Israelis have long experience in this work, they had infiltrated the PLO and PFLP in the 1960s and 1970s as well, but how exactly did it work with the Hezb ? Additionally the scale of losses in the top Hezbollah leadership as well as the targeting of its facilities indicates other factors were at play as well. I have not been able to find the story yet on how Israel got access to so much information and who were its collaborators.

 

[Falcon29]

What I noticed with Hezbollah is they operated in a tactical way. As if someone tied their hands behind their back. That is with their rocket force. Which looked like it was experimentive of nature, as if they forgot how to deploy firepower in a heavy way.

Their launchers were placed too much out in the open. Driving trucks to locations to fire rockets was ancient practice and counterproductive. Maybe they tried really hard to preserve their reputation and keep harm away from civilians. However, after suistaning a month or two of airstrikes, they still were able to consistently fire mid range rockets at Haifa and Center Galilee regions.

Where were the cruise missiles and anti -ship missiles? It's entirely possible they're not playing their cards because Iran needs to preserve them in the event of a big war in the region involving Iran. Iran needs a big punch against Israel as a deterrent against a US strike on Iran.

Their ground forces seemed fine. But since Israel was targeting southern Lebanon for months leading up to the ground invasion, they had to make adjustments and the communication issues due to loss of leadership and pager attack complicated things.

The drones seemed effective. Whomever was in charge of that unit was getting creative and able to consistently deploy such firepower.

Overall, Hezbollah was experimenting or became too big for its own good and didn't have a coherent strategy. But also they tried focusing more on tactical attacks and keeping harm away from civilians. Not sure that was the kind of war they anticipated getting into and prepared for.

 

[Falcon29]

I'd say now Hezbollah knows what the Israeli style of warfare looks like against Lebanon.

Especially the part of bombing apartment complexes in Beirut and hitting high rise buildings as a means to pressure civilian population.

Problem is if Hezbollah is operationally limited in non-Shia areas of Lebanon. That is a big problem and would put much of onus of deploying firepower in southern Lebanon which may not be able to do that or absorb the Israeli assault on the population centers there.

Hamas doesn't have tactical missiles. It hit stuff on the border and aims stuff at Israeli bases. But for Hamas its approach is to overwhelm the iron dome defenses. Since it's rockets are unguided. It tried to cause any kind of damage by firing as many off in one period that it can.

 

[Falcon29]

Once elections in South Lebanon conclude, we may see limited tactical operations from Hezbollah resume.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

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Hezbollah Commanders being killed in daily strikes. True "Promise" 3 must be just around the corner. lol

It's up to the Lebanese government and national army, they should make a statement and decision, Hezbollah will surely back them up.

Hezbollah is not the government. Lets wait and see if the army and the government will decide to defend Lebanon and if not then we know that they're weak and should accept the defensive role of Hezbollah instead of putting pressure on Hezbollah to disarm.

 

[hyperman]

It's up to the Lebanese government and national army, they should make a statement and decision, Hezbollah will surely back them up.

Hezbollah is not the government. Lets wait and see if the army and the government will decide to defend Lebanon and if not then we know that they're weak and should accept the defensive role of Hezbollah instead of putting pressure on Hezbollah to disarm.

They are not killing Army, they are killing Hezbollah commanders. Why would the Army do anything about a Militia they themselves want dissolved getting bombed? Its up to Hezbollah to respond.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

They are not killing Army, they are killing Hezbollah commanders. Why would the Army do anything about a Militia they themselves want dissolved getting bombed? Its up to Hezbollah to respond.

Hezbollah and shia are also citizens of Lebanon that need to be protected by national Lebanese army. The ceasefire treaty was between Lebanon and Israel, not between hezbollah and Israel. Israel neglected the ceasefire different times, but Lebanese army is doing nothing. It's time for this institute and their backers to show that they can respond to Israeli aggression. Many Sunnis pushed for this situation, so it's strange to ask Hezbollah to repeat their past modus operandi.