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Indian-backed Fitna Al Khwarij behind North Waziristan attack: ISPR​


Protests sparked probe into strike allegedly by a quad-copter that killed five in Mir Ali

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May 21, 2025

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Indian-backed Fitna Al Khwarij behind attack in Mir Ali, North Waziristan, said the Inter-Intelligence Services Public Relations (ISPR) on Wednesday, referring to the strike that killed four children and triggered a protest by local tribesmen on May 19.

The ISPR dispelled claims of involvement of the security forces in the attack as “entirely baseless” and part of a “coordinated disinformation campaign” aimed at discrediting counterterrorism efforts in the region.

An investigation launched into the incident found that the killings were orchestrated by Fitna Al Khwarij, a group Islamabad accuses of being funded and directed by Indian intelligence agencies.

“These elements—acting at the behest of their Indian masters—continue to exploit civilian areas and vulnerable populations as shields to conduct acts of terrorism,” the statement said.
why does ISPR treat people as idiots ? We have been observing the Fauj for 20 plus years now in Waziristan and have caught them lying many times. Do you think people have forgotten incidents like Damadola where the army shamefully claimed we were responsible when it was a CIA drone attack ?


The entire counter-terror/insurgency/Foreign policy approach by Pakistan needs a complete overhaul as the Faujis have proven utterly inept.
 
RIP to the innocent kids.

Undoubtedly it's a very sad incident! And without a doubt it's a coward terror attack.

Politely want to add that members are blaming on india.

Can I ask for the evidence? Just like members were asking evidence when terror attack happened in pahalgam of India's role.
An Indian asking for evidence?
Spare me the politeness. This is India all over it. I don’t need to give you proof. Your media that you swear by confirm In the terror activity your country is involved with.
Only the lowest form of human would kill children.
Indian TVA brigade
 
Pashtun and Baloch are not savages and our parents teach us very well. KPK and Baluchistan have borne the brunt of 20 years of the "war on terror" alongwith Karachi, but we never see a military op in Punjab.

What happened to "Taliban are Pakistan's friends" that we heard about for the last 30 consecutive years and sacrificed so much for the sake of your beloved Taliban ? Pakistani inept foreign/security policies has antagonized every community in Afghanistan and repeated heavy handed military ops and double games in Eastern provinces have sapped any goodwill towards army/security forces.

What's the point of a military op in Punjab?????

Is asking people amongst you not to attack schools or school busses too much?

And if afghans are antagonised and enemies of Pakistan then shouldn't we throw all the Afghans out of the country or risk further attack
 
Guardian and BBC are reporting Pakistani statements, not their own opinions. Take it with a pinch of salt. Still, it is an improvement on years gone by when objective narratives were not even being given air time.

Older generations will recall that immediately after 9-11, India jumped on the anti-islam hysteria bandwagon, feigning its supposed perpetual posture of "victimhood", aligning itself with genuine global victims of terrorism by playing the religion card - it hid the sordid truth of decades of state sanctioned, overt and clandestine acts of terror against multiple targets of its own choosing, many muslim, many not.

In this era where information can be collated, with a little effort, from impartial sources, the west is probably beginning to realise that India is a nation birthed, midwifed, suckled, and sustained by terrorism. Since the pogroms of Muslims in Jammu by Dogra paramilitaries over 75 years ago, India has brought the subcontinent decades of brutal anti-civilian violence deployed as a tool of statecraft.
Sir ,more than 100 years ago there was a war between my tribe and dogra army ....they skinned my tribesmen alive and hung their bodies on the trees.. .it was brutal.
 
Thats happen - from both the sides, media does work similar way.

Just I asked evidence with politely as Pakistan was asking when terror incident was happened in india.

Again - killing innocent kids - can never be justified and does matter who did that.
Thats happen - from both the sides, media does work similar way.
NO! Our media didn't interview UN listed terrorists on live TV...

Just I asked evidence with politely as Pakistan was asking when terror incident was happened in india.
India’s support for insurgent groups like BLA (Balochistan Liberation Army) and engaging in Pakistan through back channels is no news anymore.

Since the inception of Pakistan, India has always kept an eye on its neighbours, mainly Pakistan, via spies and espionage. India has always tried to intervene in the domestic affairs of Pakistan, creating instability and giving rise to insurgent groups. In 2016, Pakistan arrested Kulbhushan Yadhav, a national of India in Balochistan.

Yadhav admitted his mission included meeting Baloch insurgents to conduct their shared terrorist operations. After his arrest, in one of his confessional videos, he stated, “My purpose was to hold meetings with Baloch insurgents and carry out activities with their collaboration. These activities have been of [a] criminal nature, leading to the killing of or maiming of Pakistani citizens.” Over the years, such incidents have deepened the suspicions that India gives both training and backing to Baloch separatist movements so they can destabilise Pakistan.
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In December 2023, a commander of the Baloch National Army (BNA) separatist militant group, who had surrendered himself to the Pakistani government, disclosed that India has been secretly supporting terrorist activities in Balochistan and financing separatist forces in the region.

The Hindu, for instance, published an article in July 2019, stating "It is established that BLA (Baloch Liberation Army) commanders, in the past, had sought medical treatment in India's hospitals, often under disguise or with fake identities." Pakistan designated the BLA as a terrorist organization in 2006.

The Hindu article referred to BLA's militant commander who "was based in Delhi for at least six months in 2017," to receive "extensive treatment for kidney-related ailments." It is known that Baloch sardars "maintained warm personal ties with various Indian political figures," the article said.

Some of the related evidence has been made public. Many other concrete forms of evidence show that India backs terrorism in Pakistan, although they have not yet been released for a variety of reasons, said a source close to the situation in Balochistan.

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Though Lashkar-e-Balochistan also has anti-state agenda but it was formed to counter the growing ambitions of the BLA and the BLF, and to maintain the influence of Mengal Sardars in the area. The BDMO is an anti-separatist organization which does not consider the use of violence by the aforementioned organizations against the state legitimate. A son of Naseer Mengal, chief of a sub-clan of Mengal tribe, founded the BMDO to curtail the influence of Sardar Ataullah Mengal and his sons. Naseer Mengal had developed differences with Ataullah Mengal over electoral politics.79

Strategic and counter-insurgency experts classify the current Baloch insurgency as a low-level guerrilla warfare or low-intensity conflict.80 The intensity of violence fluctuates from low to medium and occasionally high levels.81 Waging of such low-level guerrilla warfare does not require heavy weaponry or huge sums of money. Though traces of foreign involvement are there but so far no heavy weapons have been discovered by the law enforcement agencies.82 However, some analysts believe that Baloch insurgent groups not only receive funds from Baloch Diaspora but some regional countries, particularly India, are also funnelling money to Baloch separatists.

Two discourses prevail regarding the nature and level of the current insurgency in Balochistan. One school of thought considers it violent anarchism instead of classical insurgency. It opines that the present insurgent movement not only lacks a charismatic leadership unlike past insurgencies but it is also divided with frequent infightings, and lacks coordination.

The Baloch insurgency in 1958 was led by Nawab Nauroz Khan, who was highly revered by his followers. Similarly, the second insurgency from 1963-69 was led by Sher Muhammad Marri. The Parari guerilla movement of the 1970s was led by Nawab Khair Bux Marri, who also enjoyed the support of notable Baloch leaders such as Sardar Ataullah Mengal, Sher Muhammad Marri and Nawab Akbar Bugti. The present conflict is hardly a comparison by any standard, as Nawab Akbar Bugti’s grandson Brahamdagh Bugti is hiding in Afghanistan while Baloch nationalist leader Khair Bux Marri’s son Harbiyar Marri is based in London.83

Source: 83 Amir Mateen, “Is it more anarchy, than an insurgency,” The News, July 26, 2010.
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What's the point of a military op in Punjab?????

Is asking people amongst you not to attack schools or school busses too much?

And if afghans are antagonised and enemies of Pakistan then shouldn't we throw all the Afghans out of the country or risk further attack
The point is that terrorists in Punjab are dealt with via appeasement, law enforcement, deradicalization and investing in the area, but in Baluchistan/KPK/Karachi heavy handed military ops are the only approach. People notice this.

Tell me what happened to Army Public School massacre in Peshawar in 2014 and why there was never an inquiry ? What happened to "Mai dushman kay bachon ko parhaoun ga" ? What happened is Project Imran was launched and all the security gains of the Raheel Shareef era were pissed away.

30 years Pakistan has been supporting Taliban...why ? Nobody ever clearly explains to us even when Taliban repeatedly stabs Pakistan in the back.
 
The point is that terrorists in Punjab are dealt with via appeasement, law enforcement, deradicalization and investing in the area, but in Baluchistan/KPK/Karachi heavy handed military ops are the only approach. People notice this.

Tell me what happened to Army Public School massacre in Peshawar in 2014 and why there was never an inquiry ? What happened to "Mai dushman kay bachon ko parhaoun ga" ? What happened is Project Imran was launched and all the security gains of the Raheel Shareef era were pissed away.

30 years Pakistan has been supporting Taliban...why ? Nobody ever clearly explains to us even when Taliban repeatedly stabs Pakistan in the back.

What terrorists in Punjab?????? When was the last time they attacked a school or attacked the police or military?? Same goes for Kashmiri and even sindhi


But for some reason you guys are attacking schools and school busses, police and civilians

They tried to invest billions via CPEC but the people in those areas are violent and jahil, if you build a road they will just sit on it
Money doesn't grow on trees you can't just keep taking taxes from Karachi and Punjabi and spending them on areas where they pay no bills, steal electricity and pay no taxes

Taliban are afghans, what's the difference between one type of Afghan to another
 
lol rich coming from you talking about Islam.

Yeah go around some major cities of Pakistan and you’ll see how much Islam is being practiced especially in one certain province

And if you think it’s jahalat, come to some villages in the west and I can take you to graveyards of children that have died directly due to our policies

truth hurts but these are the facts. If only a certain group that has ruled this country actually knew the basics about leadership but how could they without having ever ruled.
Would you care to us what are those policies that you are referring to and what needs to be done to bring peace .
 
What we are dealing with is an evil ideology.
We need to go real ruthless by targeting hindutva terrorist camps in India run by RSS. Or any such stronghole area where they are preaching hatred against non Hindus.
 
What is it about the two communities you mentioned that they behave with this level of jahilat and monstrosity


Do their mothers and fathers not teach them about Iman, faith, values, principles, islam


Why are they such savages
You cannot change that in a day. The Pashtun Wali code dictates that revenge is allowed and compulsory. It happens in tribal society, as in war, all other adversary tribesmen are enemies. So, supporting or arms units of the armed forces are all enemies. This kind of law has no place in modern times, and the tribal belt will overcome that when it is in the mainstream.

Man, madrassa, Imams, lecturers, schools, etc teach everything good, but did it stop hoarding, street snatching, oppression in the rest of Pakistan? Just the other day, ASF slapped a young girl going to Saudia. People in the UK would be seeing as Jahil and Savage.
 
Are you okay?

Pakistan is already facing a threat of a war with a massive enemy in form of India.

You want to capture Wakhan and make Afghanistan an open enemy?

You want to capture parts of Iran and create another massive enemy in the form of it?

Do you want Pakistan to get encircled in such critical times? Are you a well wisher of Pakistan?
Don’t expect defensive approach from me. They will bleed you and they are already your enemy. Tell me one occasion where talibans informed pakistan of a ttp attack or irgc informing pskistan of a bla attack. They are openly doing it, bleeding you. How many times we have to play this peaceful country bullshit? It’s not a good mindset to play defensive. They keep coming back. They keep mounting pressure on you until you hit back and take what belongs to you. India is already enemy. We are already encircled. Don’t live in any delusion. What I am talking about is military power and taking war in their own homes. I am absolutely fine and I like attacking approach because it solves problems.
 
NO! Our media didn't interview UN listed terrorists on live TV...


India’s support for insurgent groups like BLA (Balochistan Liberation Army) and engaging in Pakistan through back channels is no news anymore.

Since the inception of Pakistan, India has always kept an eye on its neighbours, mainly Pakistan, via spies and espionage. India has always tried to intervene in the domestic affairs of Pakistan, creating instability and giving rise to insurgent groups. In 2016, Pakistan arrested Kulbhushan Yadhav, a national of India in Balochistan.

Yadhav admitted his mission included meeting Baloch insurgents to conduct their shared terrorist operations. After his arrest, in one of his confessional videos, he stated, “My purpose was to hold meetings with Baloch insurgents and carry out activities with their collaboration. These activities have been of [a] criminal nature, leading to the killing of or maiming of Pakistani citizens.” Over the years, such incidents have deepened the suspicions that India gives both training and backing to Baloch separatist movements so they can destabilise Pakistan.
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In December 2023, a commander of the Baloch National Army (BNA) separatist militant group, who had surrendered himself to the Pakistani government, disclosed that India has been secretly supporting terrorist activities in Balochistan and financing separatist forces in the region.

The Hindu, for instance, published an article in July 2019, stating "It is established that BLA (Baloch Liberation Army) commanders, in the past, had sought medical treatment in India's hospitals, often under disguise or with fake identities." Pakistan designated the BLA as a terrorist organization in 2006.

The Hindu article referred to BLA's militant commander who "was based in Delhi for at least six months in 2017," to receive "extensive treatment for kidney-related ailments." It is known that Baloch sardars "maintained warm personal ties with various Indian political figures," the article said.

Some of the related evidence has been made public. Many other concrete forms of evidence show that India backs terrorism in Pakistan, although they have not yet been released for a variety of reasons, said a source close to the situation in Balochistan.

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Though Lashkar-e-Balochistan also has anti-state agenda but it was formed to counter the growing ambitions of the BLA and the BLF, and to maintain the influence of Mengal Sardars in the area. The BDMO is an anti-separatist organization which does not consider the use of violence by the aforementioned organizations against the state legitimate. A son of Naseer Mengal, chief of a sub-clan of Mengal tribe, founded the BMDO to curtail the influence of Sardar Ataullah Mengal and his sons. Naseer Mengal had developed differences with Ataullah Mengal over electoral politics.79

Strategic and counter-insurgency experts classify the current Baloch insurgency as a low-level guerrilla warfare or low-intensity conflict.80 The intensity of violence fluctuates from low to medium and occasionally high levels.81 Waging of such low-level guerrilla warfare does not require heavy weaponry or huge sums of money. Though traces of foreign involvement are there but so far no heavy weapons have been discovered by the law enforcement agencies.82 However, some analysts believe that Baloch insurgent groups not only receive funds from Baloch Diaspora but some regional countries, particularly India, are also funnelling money to Baloch separatists.

Two discourses prevail regarding the nature and level of the current insurgency in Balochistan. One school of thought considers it violent anarchism instead of classical insurgency. It opines that the present insurgent movement not only lacks a charismatic leadership unlike past insurgencies but it is also divided with frequent infightings, and lacks coordination.

The Baloch insurgency in 1958 was led by Nawab Nauroz Khan, who was highly revered by his followers. Similarly, the second insurgency from 1963-69 was led by Sher Muhammad Marri. The Parari guerilla movement of the 1970s was led by Nawab Khair Bux Marri, who also enjoyed the support of notable Baloch leaders such as Sardar Ataullah Mengal, Sher Muhammad Marri and Nawab Akbar Bugti. The present conflict is hardly a comparison by any standard, as Nawab Akbar Bugti’s grandson Brahamdagh Bugti is hiding in Afghanistan while Baloch nationalist leader Khair Bux Marri’s son Harbiyar Marri is based in London.83

Source: 83 Amir Mateen, “Is it more anarchy, than an insurgency,” The News, July 26, 2010.
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Again, sir, it's not evidence. India was saying a similar thing based on the past and linkage with groups; I will move from this thread.

Anyway –
As a father myself, I cannot begin to imagine the pain and heartbreak the families of the innocent children and victims are going through. The thought of losing a child is beyond unbearable — it is something no parent should ever have to face. My heart goes out to all those affected by this devastating tragedy. I stand with those parents in sorrow and grief, and I pray for strength and healing during this incredibly difficult time. May the souls of the innocent rest in peace, and may their families find comfort and support in the love that surrounds them.
 
Again, sir, it's not evidence. India was saying a similar thing based on the past and linked those groups; I will move from this thread.

Anyway –
As a father myself, I cannot begin to imagine the pain and heartbreak the families of the innocent children and victims are going through. The thought of losing a child is beyond unbearable — it is something no parent should ever have to face. My heart goes out to all those affected by this devastating tragedy. I stand with those parents in sorrow and grief, and I pray for strength and healing during this incredibly difficult time. May the souls of the innocent rest in peace, and may their families find comfort and support in the love that surrounds them.
This is the problem with you Indians respectfully your apologies are hollow because you come in with a clear intent to cover your own narrative and warp the facts.
An apologist to the last...This is what is known in law as the mens rea or the guilty mind.

India is NOT a saint, her hands are nor clean and that is why she is surrounded by hostile neighbour's east to the north to the west.

I have presented ample facts on this thread, if you dont wish to accept them because of your own opinion or conditions then kindly stop spoiling the forum.
 
Here are just a few terrorist attacks in Punjab :


What military op was launched in Punjab as a response to these ? None

CPEC......I have a question on how many Pakistanis are employed in these CPEC projects and have never received a straight answer. If CPEC is not generating employment in Pakistan , why do you expect to see benefits or appreciation ?

You have never invested in KPK or Baluchistan, instead you only see them as pawns in Great Game in Afghanistan. You should be thankful people there still love Pakistan and fly its flag.
All of these terrorist attacks were perpetrated by non Punjabis ......first phase of CPEC was not for creating long term jobs ....yes , you're right .. there were few jobs for Pakistanis ..reason was lack of skills and poor work ethics.......that doesn't mean Chinese are angels ....no one was willing to invest in Pakistan and the Chinese exploited Pakistan to the hilt.
 

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