Iranian Foreign & Resistance Front Strategy & Operations

Rebuild Zahedan and Abadan like we helped Hezbollah rebuild South Lebanon and Iranians will have a great respect for the Islamic Republic too.
Hezbollah lost everything to fight Israel directly. Our military budget is extremely low relative to virtually every major country in the region. If we were spending 20% of the budget on supporting foreign groups fighting Israel then maybe we could debate it, but it's a tiny percentage.
 
Hezbollah lost everything to fight Israel directly. Our military budget is extremely low relative to virtually every major country in the region. If we were spending 20% of the budget on supporting foreign groups fighting Israel then maybe we could debate it, but it's a tiny percentage.
It's not 20%, but it's close to 5% of our budget.
The Army has long been neglected and underfunded.

The question is not whether it is too high or not, the question is what is the return of spending money on these groups? What have they done for us?

The Islamic Republic tried to coordinate these groups to attack Israel for TP2 and TP3. I guess the coordination failed because none of these actors wanted to fight Israel along us. So, again, what is the purpose of these groups?
 
This whole ideology of the Axis of Resistance is the stupidest strategy that has ever been pursued in the modern history of Iran. And it failed miserably. Imagine arming your enemies (Arabs) to some day fight for you! Where was this Axis of Resistance when Israel attacked Tehran and killed 4 personnel of the Iranian Army?


This sort of idiocy can only come from the brain of an Ayatollah.
It was Qassim Suleimaini's strategy and a result of IRGC/Quds Force working very closely with Lebanese Shia from the 1980s and then with Iraqis in 2000s and Syrians/Yemeni in 2010s. Suleimani spent so much time in the field, his Arabic became flawless and he developed close relations with many of the AoR leaders, especially Hassan Nasrullah family.
 
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It was Qassim Suleimaini's strategy and a result of IRGC/Quds Force working very closely with Lebanese Shia from the 1980s and then with Iraqis in 2000s and Syrians/Yemeni in 2010s. Suleimani spent so much time in the field, his Arabic improved and he developed close relations with many of the Axis leaders, especially Hassan Nasrullah family.
Long before him, Chamran (one of our greatest defense ministers) started all this in early 80s. But I don't think Chamran meant to bring this stupid strategy into such an extreme that it becomes the focus of our national security instead of strengthening our own armed forces.
 
Iraq is no better either, probably even worse.

This whole ideology of the Axis of Resistance is the stupidest strategy that has ever been pursued in the modern history of Iran. And it failed miserably. Imagine arming your enemies (Arabs) to some day fight for you! Where was this Axis of Resistance when Israel attacked Tehran and killed 4 personnel of the Iranian Army?

You have to understand that there are layers of differences between Iranians and Arabs. One aspect of it is Shiite vs. Sunni Islam, the other aspect of it is anti-Persian sentiments that exists even among some Shiite Arabs.

This sort of idiocy can only come from the brain of an Ayatollah. All these Arabs will stab us in the back the moment that the US attacks us, or the moment that money dries up. Even Hezbollah proved to be useless, unlike what I previously thought.

This huge money we have spent on these people would've been much more useful had we spent it on Artesh.
No that is not true, Iraq has always been a kind of a buffer state and ally against external pressure, even in sassanid era the Arabs of Iraq served as allies against Arabs of Levant who worked for Romans, so this is an old policy and part of traditional Iranian statecraft.

Imagine having no ally but an enemy in Iraq, like Saddam or ISIS, it's a disaster, then things like Iran-Iraq war or nomadic muzlim invasion of Iran will happen if we go back in time.
Shah Abbas the great (R.A) made Iraq majority Shia by his forward thinking offensive policy, and the fruits of it today are close ties between Iraq and Iran.

Many Arabs like Iran, especially now. We spend relatively low amount of money on our allies. Hopefully positive news soon from Sudan and Red sea.
 
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Long before him, Chamran (one of our greatest defense ministers) started all this in early 80s. But I don't think Chamran meant to bring this stupid strategy into such an extreme that it becomes the focus of our national security instead of strengthening our own armed forces.
well....in the year 2020 when Sulaimani was considered worthy of assasination, this AoR strategy was seen as a tremendous success, with Iranian allies capable and deeply embedded in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq and Yemen. I think mistake Iran made was to see Suleimani assasination as a one-off and not as the beginning of a campaign to dismantle the AoR.

The whining and complaining you saw against the AoR and Iran was because of its success and deep jeaousy and anguish by GCC/West. Now that Taliban is ruling Afghanistan and Alqaeda in Syria, you dont see same moaning by GCC/West do you ?
 
No that is not true, Iraq has always been a kind of a buffer state and ally against external pressure, even in sassanid era the Arabs of Iraq served as allies against Arabs of Levant who worked for Romans, so this is an old policy and part of traditional Iranian statecraft.

Imagine having no ally but an enemy in Iraq, like Saddam or ISIS, it's a disaster, then things like Iran-Iraq war or nomadic muzlim invasion of Iran will happen if we go back in time.

Many Arabs like Iran, especially now. We spend relatively low amount of money on our allies.
I don't get the relevance of the Sassanid era to now. Iraq was part of the Persian Empire as well. So, what is your point? I don't get the relevance at all.

We did have an enemy in Iraq. The US overthrew him for us, fortunately. But again, I don't get your point. So, your point is that we should give free money to Iraq that they wouldn't turn against us and attack us again? Is that your idea of national security? to pay ransom to a weak, war-torn country not to attack us instead of strengthening our forces?

No, they don't. I'm not going to talk about hooligans at football stadiums that say all sorts of nasty stuff about Iran, but even independent polls in the Arab world proves that Iran is one of the least liked states in the Middle East, including in Palestine.
 
well....in the year 2020 when Sulaimani was considered worthy of assasination, this AoR strategy was seen as a tremendous success, with Iranian allies capable and deeply embedded in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq and Yemen. I think mistake Iran made was to see Suleimani assasination as a one-off and not as the beginning of a campaign to dismantle the AoR.

The whining and complaining you saw against the AoR and Iran was because of its success and deep jeaousy and anguish by GCC/West. Now that Taliban is ruling Afghanistan and Alqaeda in Syria, you dont see same moaning by GCC/West do you ?
You have to understand that it's all about cost analysis. Nobody cares who moans or whines about what. The Europeans and the Americans can cry all they want, that's not the matter here.

We have spent tens of billions of dollars on this Axis of Resistance and the philosophy behind it was that 1. We keep Israel and the US busy by encircling them with these groups, 2. They will help Iran fight when push comes to shove in a potential conflict with Israel or the US. Quid pro quo.

So, if these people can't do that, i.e. can't keep Israel busy and are unwilling to fight for us, then why are we funding them?

The amount of money we have spent on these people is enough to equip the IRIAF with ~500 4th-generation fighters. It's not peanuts.
 
well....in the year 2020 when Sulaimani was considered worthy of assasination, this AoR strategy was seen as a tremendous success, with Iranian allies capable and deeply embedded in Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq and Yemen. I think mistake Iran made was to see Suleimani assasination as a one-off and not as the beginning of a campaign to dismantle the AoR.

The whining and complaining you saw against the AoR and Iran was because of its success and deep jeaousy and anguish by GCC/West. Now that Taliban is ruling Afghanistan and Alqaeda in Syria, you dont see same moaning by GCC/West do you ?
In reality the only actor of the AoR knock out are HZ. But the price paid by Israel is heavy. They will never be treated by the international community like before. Just US and other rogue states like Hungary will make deals with them.

Judging the result just from the military point of view It is a mistake.
 
It's not 20%, but it's close to 5% of our budget.
The Army has long been neglected and underfunded.

The question is not whether it is too high or not, the question is what is the return of spending money on these groups? What have they done for us?

The Islamic Republic tried to coordinate these groups to attack Israel for TP2 and TP3. I guess the coordination failed because none of these actors wanted to fight Israel along us. So, again, what is the purpose of these groups?
you think 5% of our budget is going to Hezbollah / PMF / Ansarallah? that's insane. that's more than our entire military budget.
 
you think 5% of our budget is going to Hezbollah / PMF / Ansarallah? that's insane. that's more than our entire military budget.
5% of our military budget, not all of our budget. I thought it was obvious what I meant.
 
You have to understand that it's all about cost analysis. Nobody cares who moans or whines about what. The Europeans and the Americans can cry all they want, that's not the matter here.

We have spent tens of billions of dollars on this Axis of Resistance and the philosophy behind it was that 1. We keep Israel and the US busy by encircling them with these groups, 2. They will help Iran fight when push comes to shove in a potential conflict with Israel or the US. Quid pro quo.

So, if these people can't do that, i.e. can't keep Israel busy and are unwilling to fight for us, then why are we funding them?

The amount of money we have spent on these people is enough to equip the IRIAF with ~500 4th-generation fighters. It's not peanuts.
Well one problem is that Hamas did not inform its AoR allies before launching its operation and Iran/AoR have been trying to play catchup ever since. You still saw Hezbollah fighting Israel for over a year, until it was essentially destroyed, you see Hamas still in the fight and same for the Houthis. Only the Iraqi PMU chickened out. What else do you want ? ultimately these groups have their own internal dynamics and environmental constraints.
 
So, if these people can't do that, i.e. can't keep Israel busy and are unwilling to fight for us, then why are we funding them?
they all fought Israel far more than Iran did and many reports say Iran advised Nasrallah to not escalate with Israel

they would fight with us if they didn't already fight Israel on our behalf first ...
 
5% of our military budget, not all of our budget. I thought it was obvious what I meant.
5% of 5% = 0.25% of our GDP/overall budget

seems like a small price to pay to support Israel's enemies.

the real issue is our small GDP and small military budget generally, not the allocation to the resistance groups.
 
Well one problem is that Hamas did not inform its AoR allies before launching its operation and Iran/AoR have been trying to play catchup ever since. You still saw Hezbollah fighting Israel for over a year, until it was essentially destroyed, you see Hamas still in the fight and same for the Houthis. Only the Iraqi PMU chickened out. What else do you want ? ultimately these groups have their own internal dynamics and environmental constraints.
Hamas has been effectively destroyed. Gaza has been invaded. Hamas will never be what it was before October 7th. Sure, a lot of angry Palestinians that have lost their family members will be willing to join Hamas, but Hamas will never rule over Gaza again.

I have said it a million times before. Hamas was never a true ally of Iran. It was an Ikhwan Al-Muslimin group that had amicable ties with Turkey and Qatar and had stabbed Iran in the back during the Syrian Civil War.
What Hamas did on October 7th was another stab in the back for Iran. They dragged the Axis of Resistance into a war that they weren't prepared for and caught all of us off guard. It is highly likely that it was a plan by Turkey to weaken Iran's influence in the region. And it did work because Syria fell in 11 days and Hezbollah was defeated.
 

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