Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

Pakistan did not show all its card in the conflict. The Nasr, Babar, Ra’ad for instance were held to be used in the next ladder.

On PA, PAF response to Brahmos there is no denying some seeped through Pakistan’s AD but some of them were able to be intercepted through AD’s and soft kills. Going forward Pakistan will need to fill the gaps in these areas.
 
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It’s clear that many from Pakistan are busy glorifying the PAF. But let’s be real—**in any modern India-Pakistan conflict, the role of the air force will be limited.

Even israeli fired missiles on iran from the safe distance - this is what going to be happened in next wars - old method of using gone a long back. Now a days, crossing the borders and planning to for deep strikes - probability of success has dramatically very down. It's will be kind of suicide missions.

The current structure of the PAF is decent when it comes to defending its own skies—with support systems geared toward protection. But when it comes to **offensive capability**, it doesn’t hold up. The support infrastructure they rely on isn’t designed to operate beyond borders. That’s a big limitation. They don't have solutions against the same systems if talk about india.

Future wars won’t be about dogfights.
They’ll be about **standoff weapons, layered defenses, and who can strike with precision while staying protected.**

The side that defends better, absorbs the least damage, and maintains operational capability will have upper hands

You sit next to our officers at GHQ to determine whether we can strike offensively. You may be able to advise on how to create an offensive-based infrastructure.

No wonder no one takes you clowns seriously. Your favorite Christine Fair is ovulating again at her ripe old age, thanks to your fantasies.
 
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The Rafale fired a missile after crash?

The fire made the missiles propellent ignite and shoot upwards, lucky for the resident s that it want up and not sideways hitting homes
 
It’s clear that many from Pakistan are busy glorifying the PAF. But let’s be real—**in any modern India-Pakistan conflict, the role of the air force will be limited.

Even israeli fired missiles on iran from the safe distance - this is what going to be happened in next wars - old method of using gone a long back. Now a days, crossing the borders and planning to for deep strikes - probability of success has dramatically very down. It's will be kind of suicide missions.

The current structure of the PAF is decent when it comes to defending its own skies—with support systems geared toward protection. But when it comes to **offensive capability**, it doesn’t hold up. The support infrastructure they rely on isn’t designed to operate beyond borders. That’s a big limitation. They don't have solutions against the same systems if talk about india.

Future wars won’t be about dogfights.
They’ll be about **standoff weapons, layered defenses, and who can strike with precision while staying protected.**

The side that defends better, absorbs the least damage, and maintains operational capability will have upper hands
Mate give up already. Modern battles are all about air superiority. Plus, it's not like Pakistan lacks in other areas. With China also in the picture, just give up already and accept defeat.
 
It’s clear that many from Pakistan are busy glorifying the PAF. But let’s be real—**in any modern India-Pakistan conflict, the role of the air force will be limited.

Even israeli fired missiles on iran from the safe distance - this is what going to be happened in next wars - old method of using gone a long back. Now a days, crossing the borders and planning to for deep strikes - probability of success has dramatically very down. It's will be kind of suicide missions.

The current structure of the PAF is decent when it comes to defending its own skies—with support systems geared toward protection. But when it comes to **offensive capability**, it doesn’t hold up. The support infrastructure they rely on isn’t designed to operate beyond borders. That’s a big limitation. They don't have solutions against the same systems if talk about india.

Future wars won’t be about dogfights.
They’ll be about **standoff weapons, layered defenses, and who can strike with precision while staying protected.**

The side that defends better, absorbs the least damage, and maintains operational capability will have upper hands

You say the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has limitations when it comes to striking inside India—that’s true to some extent. But let’s be honest: no modern air force today is built for deep, cross-border strikes in the traditional sense. Today’s warfare is all about standoff weapons, cyber attacks, and precision strikes drones . Pakistan hasn’t yet use ful spectrum of the drones Pakistaní drone can fire very beyond visual missiles. not old-school dogfights.

But let me ask: the five Indian jets that were shot down—was that some kind of drama? Shooting down five aircraft isn’t a joke—it was a humiliating blow to you, and the whole world saw it.

You mentioned Israel firing missiles at Iran from a safe distance. Well, does Pakistan not have missiles? In fact, Pakistan used a very low-grade missile during a warning strike, and even then, it rattled your entire defense setup.

Let’s talk about defense systems—PAF is not just about fighter jets. It operates as part of a complete defense network, including ground-based air defense systems, radar coverage, and command support structures.

And regarding missile capability—Pakistan has long-range missiles like Shaheen and Ghori that can easily reach your second-tier cities and strategic sites. You should remember when Pakistan established a buffer zone of nearly 300 kilometers inside your border—that wasn’t fiction.

Also, no one talks about the cyber attack on your power grid, which exposed serious flaws in your infrastructure. It was so severe that your Prime Minister had to directly reach out to President Trump. That, too, was a form of modern warfare—and you were caught unprepared.

Let’s face it—you suffered a serious defeat, both militarily and strategically. A wise and honorable adversary accepts their losses—there’s dignity in acknowledging defeat. If you had accepted it with grace, the world might have respected you more.

But today, the world saw that in every domain—air, cyber, and strategic depth—India was pushed back. That’s the reality.
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In short, let me tell you — Pakistan has been engaged in knowledge-based wars, using its intelligence through artificial means. It’s like a video game. If you’re still stuck in the mindset of the war on terrorism, that’s outdated. Welcome to the New World Order and the new systems of warfare — powered by artificial intelligence.
Long live Pakistan
 
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I am happy she is getting all the abuse from Indians for her love for Indians. She was very critical of Pakistan and now she is learning the true nature of Internet Hindus.
 
Mate give up already. Modern battles are all about air superiority. Plus, it's not like Pakistan lacks in other areas. With China also in the picture, just give up already and accept defeat.

I’m a practical person—I don’t waste time hyping things that don’t matter.

Let’s be honest: **air dominance today is only possible when the enemy’s air defense is neutralized.**

No matter how powerful your air force is—even **China’s can’t control the skies** unless opposing SAM systems are dismantled.

Modern warfare has shifted. It’s not about swarms of jets or flashy dogfights anymore.

It’s about: Standoff missiles, UAVs, Suicide drones And integrated defense systems.

Air forces now have a limited tactical role, especially in contested environments. The real game is about striking without being seen, defending without gaps, and adapting fast.

Anyone still talking about old-school air dominance is stuck in the past.
 
Most of the Brahmos went through and hit the intended targets. The targets engaged were all high value assets. The claim that many were intercepted doesn’t seem to hold an unbiased scrutiny. If the high value assets were engaged then what were the intercepted missiles attacking?

It may also be kept in mind that this attack wasn’t an all out one but just signalling to indicate, what can be hit, if further escalation takes place. Thats why missiles were fired at targets from north to south at varying depths to attack one target at each place.

Whether, Mobile Command Centre at Nur Khan was still not commissioned or Bholari hangar had nothing inside or Runway attacks caused minor scratches is secondary.
The attacks were precise and indicated accurate intelligence.
 
You sit next to our officers at GHQ to determine whether we can strike offensively. You may be able to advise on how to create an offensive-based infrastructure.

No wonder no one takes you clowns seriously. Your favorite Christine Fair is ovulating again at her ripe old age, thanks to your fantasies.
GHQ mein faild Marshal baitha hua hai both he kameena insaan hai. Is ke awali mat karo us ko.
 
It’s clear that many from Pakistan are busy glorifying the PAF. But let’s be real—**in any modern India-Pakistan conflict, the role of the air force will be limited.

Even israeli fired missiles on iran from the safe distance - this is what going to be happened in next wars - old method of using gone a long back. Now a days, crossing the borders and planning to for deep strikes - probability of success has dramatically very down. It's will be kind of suicide missions.

The current structure of the PAF is decent when it comes to defending its own skies—with support systems geared toward protection. But when it comes to **offensive capability**, it doesn’t hold up. The support infrastructure they rely on isn’t designed to operate beyond borders. That’s a big limitation. They don't have solutions against the same systems if talk about india.

Future wars won’t be about dogfights.
They’ll be about **standoff weapons, layered defenses, and who can strike with precision while staying protected.**

The side that defends better, absorbs the least damage, and maintains operational capability will have upper hands

Why is this little panjeet being alowed to run rampant on this forum?
 

I’m a practical person—I don’t waste time hyping things that don’t matter.

Let’s be honest: **air dominance today is only possible when the enemy’s air defense is neutralized.**

No matter how powerful your air force is even **China’s can’t control the skies** unless opposing SAM systems are dismantled.

Modern warfare has shifted. It’s not about swarms of jets or flashy dogfights anymore.

It’s about: Standoff missiles, UAVs, Suicide drones And integrated defense systems.

Air forces now have a limited tactical role, especially in contested environments. The real game is about striking without being seen, defending without gaps, and adapting fast.

Anyone still talking about old-school air dominance is stuck in the past.

Now, since you brought up China let’s school you on some basics
China has over 26 military satellites actively monitoring regions 24/7.
They aren’t relying on American GPS. They’ve developed their own BeiDou navigation system, which is more accurate regionally and fully independent.
They’re developing 6th-gen stealth fighters tri-engine hypersonic capable aircraft that can operate just below space limits, around 24km altitude, at speeds approaching Mach While others are still playing catch-up with 4th-gen fighters, China Pakistan and the U.S. have already entered the era of AI-driven warfare, satellite-targeted strikes, and long range unmanned capabilities.

So before you go parroting Bollywood-level airpower fantasies, maybe do some real research first.
 
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Why is this little panjeet being alowed to run rampant on this forum?
Don’t ban him. It is good to try and trains young people you must have someone like him this is how you polish your argument. this is how you know what your enemy is thinking and where they stand.
 
Now, since you brought up China — let’s school you on some basics:
• China has over 26 military satellites actively monitoring regions 24/7.
• They aren’t relying on American GPS. They’ve developed their own BeiDou navigation system, which is more accurate regionally and fully independent.
• They’re developing 6th-gen stealth fighters — tri-engine hypersonic-capable aircraft that can operate just below space limits, around 24km altitude, at speeds approaching Mach 6.
• While others are still playing catch-up with 4th-gen fighters, China Pakistan and the U.S. have already entered the era of AI-driven warfare, satellite-targeted strikes, and long-range unmanned capabilities.

So before you go parroting Bollywood-level airpower fantasies, maybe do some real research first.
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As expected, you missed the points entirely.

Anyway, keep hyping things if that’s what you feel happy. I just given example of china the same way it gets applied for USA as well.

**Good day."**
 

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