Pakistan-India Conflict 2025: News Updates and Discussion

[Ali_Baba]

India made a big mistake by not going for SEAD+OCA before airstrikes against a prepared adversary.
Ex IAF group capt also agrees

Then neither of them know what they are talking about. SEAD missions would require the IAF to get close to the assets they are after, but how can they when they were forced to operate 300km into Indian airspace ! No wonder the IAF does so poorly, it is due to complete lack of understanding of the tactical situation and capabilities required to complete assigned missions...

 

[Corax]

Several IAF ALCM strikes planned towards Kamra (PAF Minhas) got canceled because of ceasefire talks, as per IAF officials.

Did you get this from the same indian media that claimed Karachi port had been destroyed, Lahore port occupied along with Islamabad and half of Punjab?

 

[Corax]

India made a big mistake by not going for SEAD+OCA before airstrikes against a prepared adversary.
Ex IAF group capt also agrees

The PAF effectively established a no fly zone for the IAF about 200km inside india. The bar has been raised again since Feb 2019. Next time, OCA, SEAD, DEAD, missiles strikes etc will occur from day one. But given that the IAF has been proved to be ineffective again and again, they will find it difficult to achieve any of those objectives, if at all. The best the indians can do is Brahmos missile strikes en mass, where they were partially successful. Even then, the brahmos missiles will have to adopt INS instead of GPS given the GPS guidance was effectively jammed.

 

[Oscar]

That's about trust - just like you trust blindly on Chinese systems.

But in those critical 4 days, Indian-developed drone and SAM systems proved everyone wrong. They did performed beyond the expections.

Most incoming rockets and missiles were intercepted—**not by imported tech**, but by our own **Akash missile systems** and sams and others with integrated radar networks. Even older platforms like the **L70** were actively used against drones, showing that when modern upgrades meet legacy strength, the result is powerful.

Indian radars have integrated with multiple sam systems, based on the threats they response. For example drones - they don't use costly missiles or systems alike s400 or akash.

**S-400** That was held in reserve—used sparingly. Because our homegrown systems handled the bulk of the threat.

This wasn’t just defense—it was performance under pressure. Integrations is not an problem, it's a something not depending on share their key technology. India has developed on these areas very strongly.

Yes, the local systems did well, but a lot did not. And so as I said. Unless you learn humility - there is NO point in all these systems and no point in having any discussions.

 

[Oscar]

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Unfortunate that such freak accidents always happen after any border tensions.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

A point everyone is missing is that india attacked Pakistan with tacit approval and backing from america, the same day jd vance left india. The reason why the americans have now washed their hands off india is that despite near impossible-odds, Pakistan severely battered, humiliated and castrated india on the world stage. Not even in their worst nightmares did the indians and americans ever think that this would happen. america has to distance itself from india in order to not ruin american credibility. america has now realised that india cannot and will NEVER be able to challenge or take on China. The indians are too backward, inferior and low IQ to ever pose a threat to China. The WHOLE world now knows this including the indians themselves. If anything, india would struggle to take on Pakistan, forget China.

 

[Distant_Observer]

A point everyone is missing is that india attacked Pakistan with tacit approval and backing from america, the same day jd vance left india. The reason why the americans have now washed their hands off india is that despite near impossible-odds, Pakistan severely battered, humiliated and castrated india on the world stage. Not even in their worst nightmares did the indians and americans ever think that this would happen. america has to distance itself from india in order to not ruin american credibility. america has now realised that india cannot and will NEVER be able to challenge or take on China. The indians are too backward, inferior and low IQ to ever pose a threat to China. The WHOLE world now knows this including the indians themselves. If anything, india would struggle to take on Pakistan, forget China.

They had them all hoodwinked in the 2000s before social media.

They are the worlds laughing stock. I never once seen a video on social media and there isn't someone making fun of them.

As a soft power they are finished. Their small % of brahmin are good money makers but not as good as Chinese. Militarily will never be good as Chinese.

Leeched off American jobs, trade and scammed their public by the billions of $. No wonder Trump said India can look after themselves.

 

[Abdul q]

Since when muricans were credible anyway ??

A point everyone is missing is that india attacked Pakistan with tacit approval and backing from america, the same day jd vance left india. The reason why the americans have now washed their hands off india is that despite near impossible-odds, Pakistan severely battered, humiliated and castrated india on the world stage. Not even in their worst nightmares did the indians and americans ever think that this would happen. america has to distance itself from india in order to not ruin american credibility. america has now realised that india cannot and will NEVER be able to challenge or take on China. The indians are too backward, inferior and low IQ to ever pose a threat to China. The WHOLE world now knows this including the indians themselves. If anything, india would struggle to take on Pakistan, forget China.

 

[Vapnope]

Anyone can confirm if H2/H4 were used by Pakistan this time?

 

[ziaulislam]

IMO, fateh II needs more numbers/fangs, we need more h9q and more back bases in safety or away from indian crusie/Blastic missles(more reaction time)

We need response to brahmos (a non nuclear missle)

 

[peagle]

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He was allowed to talk by his masters, so he spent few years talking with a big mouth.
Now that his masters have used the whip, he's back in his place.

Aray keya baat karta hey, that was his image , absolutely ridiculous.

 

[peagle]

A point everyone is missing is that india attacked Pakistan with tacit approval and backing from america, the same day jd vance left india. The reason why the americans have now washed their hands off india is that despite near impossible-odds, Pakistan severely battered, humiliated and castrated india on the world stage. Not even in their worst nightmares did the indians and americans ever think that this would happen. america has to distance itself from india in order to not ruin american credibility. america has now realised that india cannot and will NEVER be able to challenge or take on China. The indians are too backward, inferior and low IQ to ever pose a threat to China. The WHOLE world now knows this including the indians themselves. If anything, india would struggle to take on Pakistan, forget China.

It would be wise not to get carried away.
Much of what you said is true and makes sense. But it includes much that simply is not the case.
India is a major military, it would be unwise to discount it so readily.

 

[TAC]

Fear of Trump's danda.

More like fear of the Pakistani danda they got. At least it was familiar to them, same danda they had in 2019.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Since when muricans were credible anyway ??

Even if not credible the americans do NOT want in any way to be associated with india or indians.

 

[TAC]

why don't u guys go for it again and see what happens next?
What's stopping your guys? Your media is barking at chacha trump so plz dont use him as an excuse.
go ahead, try it, and this time try not to cancel anything. Just execute ALL. So we can finally put an end to this BS permanently

Quite right. DG ISPR said it best, you came, see what u got? If u ever get false sense overconfidence again, go ahead come again